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Legend said:

I don't know anything about suppressors other than what I have read on the web ands this site.

What do you all suggest if I want to put something on a 22 inch barrell 7mm-08 rifle that I use for whitetail and hog shooting? It sounds like a 30 cal can works. But any suggestions on what type? Mainly out of a blind or truck so not talking about something super light weight for trekking.





since it's going on a bolt action you don't need all the new 3D printed goodness (and extra cost) of a low back pressure/flow through suppressor. 2) Since you aren't hiking with it, you also don't need to look for titanium or inconel, as the "ounces to pain" isn't a thing here. This will save you some $$ there as well. 3) you also don't need one "over engineered" to handle sustained fire like from a AR platform.

A good 30 caliber can from a reputable company will be good. Griffin GP7. Bannish 30.YHM Resonator. Omega 30. Otter Creek Polonium. Just to name a few.

But at 22" already you might want to look at a K version of a suppressor so you don't have a 10 foot pole sticking out of your blind!

I still wear ear protection when shooting suppressed (ok maybe not with 22lr or subsonic 300 blackout) but everything else is hearing "safer." As long as the suppressor is outside the blind you should be able to get a good shot off without hearing protection and your ears not ringing for 20 minutes.

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Agreed w above poster. YHM has been really impressive for me considering their value. Id look into the Resonator K. But any of the what was mentioned earlier will be fine.
I also agree with wanting some foamies or similar when shooting. Sitting next to a supressed 243 (barrel out of the blind) going off with no ear pro was def louder than I expected but not to the point where ears were ringing or anything.
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Thank you. Very helpful!
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And, in typical outdoors board fashion, has me thinking I should just get another gun with a shorter barrel and have both set ups!
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Legend said:

And, in typical outdoors board fashion, has me thinking I should just get another gun with a shorter barrel and have both set ups!


If you don't have every available setup, you're not doing it right.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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Legend said:

And, in typical outdoors board fashion, has me thinking I should just get another gun with a shorter barrel and have both set ups!


If your barrel isn't threaded you could have it shortened and threaded at the same time.
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Legend said:

I don't know anything about suppressors other than what I have read on the web ands this site.

What do you all suggest if I want to put something on a 22 inch barrell 7mm-08 rifle that I use for whitetail and hog shooting? It sounds like a 30 cal can works. But any suggestions on what type? Mainly out of a blind or truck so not talking about something super light weight for trekking.



Legend - I am exactly like you. I know very little about silencers or suppressors or cans (I frankly don't care what you call them). I was looking for something that would work for hunting- not too long and not too heavy in 30 CAL, so I could put it on anything from a 30-06 to 223 Rem.

I did a lot of research & talked to knowledgeable people. I came down to these two (but there's many great options) -Banish Backcountry & SilencerCo Scythe Ti. I bought the Scythe.
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Lance in Round Mountain said:

Legend said:

I don't know anything about suppressors other than what I have read on the web ands this site.

What do you all suggest if I want to put something on a 22 inch barrell 7mm-08 rifle that I use for whitetail and hog shooting? It sounds like a 30 cal can works. But any suggestions on what type? Mainly out of a blind or truck so not talking about something super light weight for trekking.



Legend - I am exactly like you. I know very little about silencers or suppressors or cans (I frankly don't care what you call them). I was looking for something that would work for hunting- not too long and not too heavy in 30 CAL, so I could put it on anything from a 30-06 to 223 Rem.

I did a lot of research & talked to knowledgeable people. I came down to these two (but there's many great options) -Banish Backcountry & SilencerCo Scythe Ti. I bought the Scythe.

Thank you! I think I will try this with my 22 inch barrel and then if it is too long use it as an excuse to buy another gun with a shorter barrel. My 22 inch is spiral fluted so I don't really want to shorten it, even though it looks like I technically could.

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I am in the same boat. My first one was for my 30-06 to use when deer hunting. My dog sits in the blind with me most of the time. She is not afraid of gun shots but I don't want to cause her to have any hearing loss. The only one I was very familiar with prior to purchasing mine were Griffins. My SIL has a couple of them. After a lot of research and talking to a bunch of knowledgeable folks, I settled on a Trash Panda manufactured by Q. It was shorter than most yet still advertised a 40+ decibel cut in noise. I really liked the design as well. I use it on my Rem. 700 in the blind and the extra length really is not an issue. I did have to have my barrel threaded which cost an extra $100.
So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
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Good to know. I just dropped off three of my hunting rifles (270, 7mm-08 and 30-06) for barrel threading. Most of my gear is not set up to receive a silencer. Someone told me that if I had rifles that I could not put the silencer on, those rifles would not get as much "action" as the firearms that can take the silencer. So....spending $$ to thread barrels.
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I still need to get my .260 and .280AI threaded too.
Shoalcatter22
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Explain what a trust does, please. I just ordered my first can and remember selecting "individual" vs. "company". Used SilencerShop.
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Shoalcatter22 said:

Explain what a trust does, please. I just ordered my first can and remember selecting "individual" vs. "company". Used SilencerShop.

The Trust is what owns the NFA items, not the individual. That means anybody on Trust as a Trustee can legally bein posession of the item, whereas with an individual you are technically supposed to be "in control" of the item at all times.

Also, when you move onto the happy hunting grounds, the Trust still owns the item so you don't have to deal with trying to will it to somebody and then having to go through the transfer process again to allow them to legally own it. It's just easier across the board to set up a Trust and you can assign Trustees as you see fit.
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https://www.lymanproducts.com/sonicore

We are finally getting to the point with suppressors that we are starting to see companies develop much more budget friendly cans. Sure, they aren't going to be as robust as a high performance $1000 can nor will they suppress as well - but honestly, if I can get 80% as good on the suppression for 1/4 of the price - I'm going that route just about every single time. Makes it much easier to have dedicated cans for a rifle versus trying to swap a single can over multiple rifles, etc.

MSRP for these is going to be under $300
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Green2Maroon said:

I still need to get my .260 and .280AI threaded too.


Guy I hunted with in Co smoked an elk at 400 yards with a suppressed 280AI and the thing dropped like a sack of potatoes. Guys in the meadow down the way didn't even hear a shot. I'm a believer!
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Has anyone ever been questioned about this trust business? I don't even know who would ask. Atf? Game warden? Somebody at the shooting range? I can see when you first purchase, and maybe if you tried to sell it, but as far as regular use, I don't see someone 'not on the trust' being caught using a suppressor. But, I am not a range guy, so that is why I am asking.
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I still haven't killed anything with the .280ai yet. Hopefully in the next year or two.
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Highly unlikely.

But certainly removes all shadow of a doubt should anyone that needs to know is asking.

And in my opinion the only ones that need to know are law enforcement.

But I understand if a private range would ask for documentation if you wanted to use their facility. Their range their rules kind of thing.
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I started off with the one can for everything mentality. I bought a surefire 300 sps for ar and bolt actions. Since added a CGS HYDRA 22 can which is amazing.

I wanted a scythe ti for my 308 Barrett fieldcraft because why put a havy can on a 5 lb rifle. Local store convinced me to get an AB Raptor 8 instead and I am glad I went with it instead of scythe it has same basic specs some people don't like how they look but I run a cover anyway.

I got a great deal on a clearance hybrid 46 for my 45-70. I have since used on the hk sp5 and a 375 h&h, pistols etc. I then bought a new spectre 9 which is amazing. But the old larger heavy cans are quieter and amazing to use.

Saying all that to say a hybrid 46 is hard to beat for a one can start. The older heavier cans work great unless you need something for a special purpose. Like the AB on the fieldcraft or the spectre on a pistol. They hybrid looks and sounds better on the hk even though it is heavier.
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My One can for everything. Probably would be the Surefire 762 mini2
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What's the best .22 with a can setup. Looking to buy one soon for small game hunting with my kid. And maybe squirrels in my backyard without neighbors knowing.
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jakeaggie84 said:

What's the best .22 with a can setup. Looking to buy one soon for small game hunting with my kid. And maybe squirrels in my backyard without neighbors knowing.


I have a ruger 10/22 with the dead air mask. It will not cycle the cci quiet rounds, they are around 700 ft/sec. Does well with normal cci rounds which are subsonic around 1000 ft/sec. The action is a lot louder than you think once you put a suppressor on. I've thought about getting a bolt action to be even quieter, but haven't. Some on here have posted that the m&p 15-22(ar style 22) can cycle the cci quiets, but no first hand experience.
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Federal suppressor 45gr, otter creek TI 22 can, CZ 457 bolt action.

I've shot 3 squirrels in my backyard on 7k sq ft lot in Colorado with no mentions of noise from anyone.

Large ponderosa pine tree as a backstop. It can take awhile for the tree rat to cooperate on position.
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This is the same setup I'm looking at. CZ 457 Scout and an Otter Creek TI 22 can.
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