with Gregory's terrible history of rehab and suspensions, Dallas management would have been foolish NOT to have language to protect themselves. Denver wanted to take that chance, good for them. If they make the playoffs, they better hope he's not baked again.

Good riddance of a bad actor. Plenty of other weaknesses on the roster to spend that money on to lock up guys that aren't stoners.

I will fully admit that I was one that thought Stephen might bring some balance to Jerry's wildcatting ways, but I was wrong. In many ways, I think Stephen is worse.


The only reason why they've been able to field competitive teams is dumb luck with Romo and Dak and Will McClay is good at what he does so he's allowed them to be good at drafting and bargain level FA shopping.

Cowboys continuing to stack up Ls this offseason. Von to the bills.

Maybe not. Seems like the bills gave Von 6 years/120M.

6 years $120M. Love Von but no thanks on that deal.

DannyDuberstein said:

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Ok, so where are the tweets prior to this week? Stephen's rep so far has partly been from talking Jerry out of crazy ***** Like drafting Johnny Football

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Just because Stephen's better than Jerry doesn't make him any less of an incompetent front office exec. Just slightly less of one.

Wonder how much is guaranteed on that contract

Legal Custodian said:

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Bad faith would be changing the number of years, amount of guaranteed money, putting a clause that the contract is void if he gets arrested, etc. Trying to pull a fast one on someone hoping they'll just sign and move on.

This was SOP for contracts with the Cowboys. Who cares if the contract language is outdated or a bad idea to begin with, that doesn't matter. This does not constitute bad faith and I would be very curious to hear someone's reasoning why they believe that way.

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Are you a member of the Jones family or the Cowboys org? If not, it's okay, you don't have to carry an ocean's worth of water for them.

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Maybe not. Seems like the bills gave Von 6 years/120M.

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Wow. Would have loved to have Von, but that's huge. I would not have done that. I bet he doesn't see beyond 3 years of that deal.

Von to the Bills

Agristotle said:

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with Gregory's terrible history of rehab and suspensions, Dallas management would have been foolish NOT to have language to protect themselves. Denver wanted to take that chance, good for them. If they make the playoffs, they better hope he's not baked again.

Good riddance of a bad actor. Plenty of other weaknesses on the roster to spend that money on to lock up guys that aren't stoners.

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The issue isn't that they tried to protect themselves from suspensions, they tried to protect themselves from fines. In a league where if you look at a ref when they're on their period you're going to get rung up and fined, who can blame his camp for bailing?

Wouldn't mind getting Barnett at the right price or Clowney on a 1-2 year deal. Need some dudes.

The official NFL Draft Order is out. The Cowboys picks:

Round 1, #24 OVR
Round 2, #56 OVR
Round 3, #88 OVR
Round 4, #129 OVR
Round 5, #155 OVR (part of not official yet Cooper trade)
Round 5, #167 OVR
Round 5, #176 OVR (comp)
Round 5, #178 OVR (comp)
Round 6, #193 OVR (Cooper)

— Tom Downey (@WhatGoingDowney) March 16, 2022

Yeah, if they can't pull something off, DE just went way up the need list for the draft.

Danny Phantom said:

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Wonder how much is guaranteed on that contract

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Von Miller’s six-year deal with the Buffalo Bills includes $51.5 million guaranteed, including $34 million fully guaranteed at signing, per sources.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 16, 2022

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Yeah, if they can't pull something off, DE just went way up the need list for the draft.

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Gotta sign one. Very rare that a rookie DE makes an impact. At this point we may be better of lining Parson up there and then getting Wagner and someone like LVE or Hitchens to fill the void at LB.

PooDoo said:

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The official NFL Draft Order is out. The Cowboys picks:

Round 1, #24 OVR
Round 2, #56 OVR
Round 3, #88 OVR
Round 4, #129 OVR
Round 5, #155 OVR (part of not official yet Cooper trade)
Round 5, #167 OVR
Round 5, #176 OVR (comp)
Round 5, #178 OVR (comp)
Round 6, #193 OVR (Cooper)

— Tom Downey (@WhatGoingDowney) March 16, 2022

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I would love to see them package some of those extra picks in the 5th to move up to the 3rd. I'm sure they'll be thinking about that.


I wonder if we could go get a guy like Trai Turner to play G so it's not a huge need in the draft. Still grab a guy later that you might like but it would free things up for DE and WR.

gigem1223 said:

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Wouldn't mind getting Barnett at the right price or Clowney on a 1-2 year deal. Need some dudes.

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Bobby Wagner?

gigem1223 said:

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6 years $120M. Love Von but no thanks on that deal.

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You know though, after reading about the guarantees, it looks like it's an avg of $17.5m a year. We were gonna give Gregory $14. I think Von's worth $3m more a year than Gregory. I think the could have been doable.

Really wouldn't mind them taking a short-term flyer on Honey Badger if they can't get Kearse signed. He could thrive in DQ's turnover oriented defense.

I would like Honey Badger. They can do Honey Badger/Kearse, Wagner and Clowney. They have enough space to do that.

I would try my hardest to trade for Danielle hunter. He's an elite edge and he's only 28 years old.

Danny Phantom said:

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I would try my hardest to trade for Danielle hunter. He's an elite edge and he's only 28 years old.

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This front office doesn't even seem to put the effort in for acquiring players via trade. Cooper may be the last player ? Is Minnesota shopping him? Haven't heard anything on him?

Report: Vikings trying to trade Danielle Hunter. https://t.co/naXeXpBLWE

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 17, 2022

I still don't think we need another "elite" pass rusher. Between D-Law and Micah's versatility we have good pressure guys... our other dudes just have to step up around them.

Not sure we can do much about Guard with what's left in free agency, so go get a LB or fill another spot.

Like with the draft, go find the best football player. Don't get hung up on DE, just go get a stud and make our team better.

Vince Blake said:

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Report: Vikings trying to trade Danielle Hunter. https://t.co/naXeXpBLWE

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 17, 2022

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If I'm interpreting his contract correctly, he's due an 18.5 million roster bonus this year that I'm sure the Vikes don't want to pay.

The $ owed on the 2 years left on his contract isn't bad otherwise. I wonder if a new team could restructure that and guarantee the money but spread out the bonus over those 2 years?

Million $ question is what do the Vikings want?

jr15aggie said:

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Vince Blake said:

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Report: Vikings trying to trade Danielle Hunter. https://t.co/naXeXpBLWE

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 17, 2022

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If I'm interpreting his contract correctly, he's due an 18.5 million roster bonus this year that I'm sure the Vikes don't want to pay.

The $ owed on the 2 years left on his contract isn't bad otherwise. I wonder if a new team could restructure that and guarantee the money but spread out the bonus over those 2 years?

Million $ question is what do the Vikings want?

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How bout La'ell Collins

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Danny Phantom said:

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I would try my hardest to trade for Danielle hunter. He's an elite edge and he's only 28 years old.

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This front office doesn't even seem to put the effort in for acquiring players via trade. Cooper may be the last player ? Is Minnesota shopping him? Haven't heard anything on him?

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Doesn't appear they have any interest in free agency either.

I’m told Dak Prescott put more effort into recruiting Von Miller than #Cowboys management. Once Gregory signed with Denver, Miller had Dallas as his #1 destination. Dallas never made an offer.
The Cowboys need someone in the locker room that understands what it takes to win a SB pic.twitter.com/5XxgUtjNln

— Newy Scruggs (@newyscruggs) March 17, 2022

Is there anything that qualifies Stephen to be in the position he is other than its a family business? I am kind of to the point I wish the NFL would force them to sell the team under the guise of moral bankruptcy but really because they are incompetent.

jr15aggie said:

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Some of y'all need to get a dog!

Jiminy Cricket... all of this started over a guy that's never had more than 6 sacks in a season and this past year was the first time EVER that he was eligible (AKA, not suspended) to play back to back seasons.

But flame away... tell me how I'm wrong so all the doom and gloomers can blue star more doom and gloom posts.

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I think where you're going off topic here is making this about Gregory and what type of player he is....I would agree that the contract was prob too much money, esp when you compare it to Von's actually numbers. I think Von's is only getting like $3.5m more avg per year than Gregory. I would take Von and that deal all day long.

But that's not the point. The point is that the organization and specifically Jerry made a very strong point that resigning Gregory was a very high priority for the organzation. The reached and agreement and then f'ed it up and by some accounts, Jerry was highly pissed. And when you take the comments made by Tank about how his deal went down, then the other comments from folks around the league about how that language is used, it becomes very clear the cowboys are either incompetent or they simply botched this deal. It sure seems like folks in the league believe it's the former not just the latter.

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I think where you're going off topic here is making this about Gregory and what type of player he is....I

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I know what you are saying, but I said "it started with". One piece of bad news (which I felt was good news) spiraled into an entire beast of corporate infidelity posts, clown show VPs, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

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I think some of us are just tired of the same old crap year after year.

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Me too. I've had plenty of harsh things to say, especially on game day posts (especially when I've been drinking which I don't do during every game). But at this point the thread has gone off the rails.



Yes, Jerry's gotten lots of tail in his lifetime. No, Stephen isn't our savior. Yes, they hard-balled Tank but got a deal done. They hard-balled Randy and he bailed. We franchise tagged a TE who would have made the JAG pro bowl if there was such a thing! Deep breaths everyone.