***** 2020 Houston Texans Season Thread *****

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Texan_Aggie
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In reply to redag06 • 12:23p, 3/31/21
AG
No sweat. I'd also be curious if the trade agreements between teams have some sort of "advanced knowledge" clause whereby if a team has advanced knowledge of something relevant (i.e. injury, legal issue, etc.) and doesn't disclose or withholds from the trade partner, whether it can nullify the trade.

Even if it doesn't, Caserio would likely hold off because it'd be a huge reputational hit and likely make trades harder in the future if he makes this significant trade knowing information about Deshaun which could (possible likely) end in suspension.
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12:23p, 3/31/21
https://www.tmz.com/2021/03/31/deshaun-watson-massage-18-therapists-nfl-houston-texans-qb-rusty-hardin/

If Bill Cosby had 18 women come out and say he never raped them, maybe I would've changed my opinion on the guy! This is a weak and bizzare tactic IMO.
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In reply to Saint Pablo • 12:39p, 3/31/21
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Saint Pablo said:
https://www.tmz.com/2021/03/31/deshaun-watson-massage-18-therapists-nfl-houston-texans-qb-rusty-hardin/

If Bill Cosby had 18 women come out and say he never raped them, maybe I would've changed my opinion on the guy! This is a weak and bizzare tactic IMO.
Odd tactic indeed, and also how many gotdang massage therapists does one guy use? It is so weird that anyone would use 40+ different women for massages over the span of a couple of years.
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12:41p, 3/31/21
AG
I would be curious to see if here were any repeats? Or is/was part of his deal wanting to spring little willie on them to see what happened?
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12:53p, 3/31/21
AG
I thought football was a sun-up-to-sun-down job. At least that's what every coach and QB I've ever heard likes to say. But apparently, DeShaun had all the free time in the world. Dude spent hours, it seems like daily, driving around Houston for massages.
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12:59p, 3/31/21
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"I didn't assault almost as many women as I did assault!"
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1:12p, 3/31/21
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My guess is if the Texans knew about it before it came out then any team they'd try to trade him to would've figured it out as well, if they didn't already know.
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1:56p, 3/31/21
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so Buzbe found almost 20 masseuses who feel like they were harassed or harmed by Watson's massage antics, while Hardin found almost 20 more masseuses who like Watson's massage game. How many more masseuses are there?!
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2:02p, 3/31/21
AG
Yeah, I'm not sure saying you were appropriate with more women than you were inapproprite with does much here.

In an extreme example, Ted Bundy was probably nicer to more people he kept alive than murdered.
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2:05p, 3/31/21
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"He asked if I felt comfortable working on those areas and I said yes,"

Am I missing something? The DW defense has already confirmed: the massages happened, he has seen a ton of different people, he deleted messages, and he asks for certain "areas" to be rubbed. Seems like a lot of information before a trial even starts.

Any thoughts from the lawyers?
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In reply to Texan_Aggie • 2:10p, 3/31/21
Texan_Aggie said:
Yeah, I'm not sure saying you were appropriate with more women than you were inapproprite with does much here.

In an extreme example, Ted Bundy was probably nicer to more people he kept alive than murdered.
Ted Bundy the good guy, confirmed.
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2:23p, 3/31/21
AG
The other thing that is inconsistent - Hardin has been adamant that the anonymity in the suits makes it hard to verify the masseuses (despite dates and locations), yet he was able to conjure up ~20 other masseuses to support him? You have good enough details and dates to get positive support but not enough to dispel the negative claims?
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In reply to Texan_Aggie • 3:55p, 3/31/21
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Texan_Aggie said:
The other thing that is inconsistent - Hardin has been adamant that the anonymity in the suits makes it hard to verify the masseuses (despite dates and locations), yet he was able to conjure up ~20 other masseuses to support him? You have good enough details and dates to get positive support but not enough to dispel the negative claims?


Rusty has no doubt identified most, if not all, of the plaintiffs and is likely digging into all of them as we speak. But being filed as Jane Does gives him cover to claim he doesn't know who they are and thus, can't make any statement about their claims yet.

I'm not sure either attorney did themselves any favors today.
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8:53a, 4/2/21
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The Texans cleared over $5.2 million in 2021 cap space by restructuring DE Shaq Lawson's contract, converting salary and a workout bonus and adding two voidable years. He's still due $8M fully guaranteed this season and $9M in 2022.
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In reply to Ags #1 • 10:49a, 4/2/21
Ags #1 said:
The Texans cleared over $5.2 million in 2021 cap space by restructuring DE Shaq Lawson's contract, converting salary and a workout bonus and adding two voidable years. He's still due $8M fully guaranteed this season and $9M in 2022.
I don't understand this, you just signed the guy 2.5 weeks ago, its a good move clearing more space, but why not make that his original contract.
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In reply to redag06 • 10:55a, 4/2/21
AG
redag06 said:
Ags #1 said:
The Texans cleared over $5.2 million in 2021 cap space by restructuring DE Shaq Lawson's contract, converting salary and a workout bonus and adding two voidable years. He's still due $8M fully guaranteed this season and $9M in 2022.
I don't understand this, you just signed the guy 2.5 weeks ago, its a good move clearing more space, but why not make that his original contract.

Didn't they trade for him?
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10:58a, 4/2/21
That is correct, they've done so well at purging the previous crap that I've lost track.
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In reply to redag06 • 11:39a, 4/2/21
You love to see it.
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6:44p, 4/2/21
AG
Apparently, a criminal complaint has now been filed and HPD is now investigating.
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In reply to JCA1 • 6:59p, 4/2/21
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JCA1 said:
Apparently, a criminal complaint has now been filed and HPD is now investigating.
And Rusty Hardin responded " "We welcome this long overdue development. Now we will learn the identity of at least one accuser. We will fully cooperate with the Houston Police Department."

Dude is a great liar... I mean actor... err lawyer!
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In reply to oh no • 12:12a, 4/3/21
oh no said:
so Buzbe found almost 20 masseuses who feel like they were harassed or harmed by Watson's massage antics, while Hardin found almost 20 more masseuses who like Watson's massage game. How many more masseuses are there?!
Only one, and she is in Toledo, Ohio. Not much demand for her services, she is missing three fingers, has toenail fungus, always has a runny nose, and doesn't bathe.
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In reply to 30wedge • 6:37a, 4/3/21
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30wedge said:
oh no said:
so Buzbe found almost 20 masseuses who feel like they were harassed or harmed by Watson's massage antics, while Hardin found almost 20 more masseuses who like Watson's massage game. How many more masseuses are there?!
Only one, and she is in Toledo, Ohio. Not much demand for her services, she is missing three fingers, has toenail fungus, always has a runny nose, and doesn't bathe.
Aka an Ohio 8.
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1:45p, 4/4/21
Happy Easterby, y'all!
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5:16p, 4/5/21
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One less team chasing Watson, I guess.


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In reply to OCEN99 • 6:26p, 4/5/21
AG
I think you can assume no one is interested in DW presently... And he won't have any value until he's either cleared or charged...
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10:07p, 4/5/21
Carolina wanted Watson but Watson didn't want to go to Carolina.. wasn't going to waive his no trade clause.

Carolina moved on
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In reply to bilbobag • 10:10p, 4/5/21
AG
bilbobag said:
Carolina wanted Watson but Watson didn't want to go to Carolina.. wasn't going to waive his no trade clause.

Carolina moved on


If that's true then the Texans should have let it slip to the public. They need to do any and all things to get the fan base back. Painting Watson as the guy demanding a trade then not accepting it would make him look even worse than he already has made himself.
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10:11p, 4/5/21
AG
I demand a trade and want out...But not there.

Gimme a fkn break. I wouldn't entertain any more trade offers.

If he does show up just bench his ass.
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In reply to bilbobag • 10:12p, 4/5/21
bilbobag said:
Carolina wanted Watson but Watson didn't want to go to Carolina.. wasn't going to waive his no trade clause.

Carolina moved on


And ironically, Watson wanted a masseuse named Carolina but she didn't want Watson. But he made her touch his weenie and creamed on her anyway
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:56p, 4/5/21
AG
So much this!!!
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:08p, 4/5/21
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11:53p, 4/5/21
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like we've said all along...Watson wants to treat the NFL like the NBA.

and the Carolina market is just not big enough for his "star" or "brand"
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In reply to W • 6:21a, 4/6/21
W said:
like we've said all along...Watson wants to treat the NFL like the NBA.

and the Carolina market is just not big enough for his "star" or "brand"
Considering the hit his brand is taking, Carolina may be to big of a market
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