I love JFF and hope he's the best ever and loved having him on our team. However he looked bad. Real bad. As did the rest of the team. OL is horrible but JFF sucked as bad. All around horrible showing by a bad team.
quote:quote:Stop making excuses for how he played today. He was absolute crap and a lot of that is on him. It was not the defense that threw those INTs. Hell even the commentators were saying you cannot just throw balls up in the air like that. JFF was also throwing high on way too many balls and he made some terrible decisions on the zone read. It's a team sport for sure but the team that was fighting for their playoff lives did not quit on him. That is just stupid to post that.
Browns absolutely quit on Manziel
quote:quote:quote:Stop making excuses for how he played today. He was absolute crap and a lot of that is on him. It was not the defense that threw those INTs. Hell even the commentators were saying you cannot just throw balls up in the air like that. JFF was also throwing high on way too many balls and he made some terrible decisions on the zone read. It's a team sport for sure but the team that was fighting for their playoff lives did not quit on him. That is just stupid to post that.
Browns absolutely quit on Manziel
The only person playing as bad as JFF was everyone else on the team.
quote:People on here will pull out every excuse in the book for Johnny. See the threads during autographgate if you need any further proof
He was terrible. Period.
quote:quote:what are you talking about. The first pick was an under thrown ball and the second was him just throwing the ball up. Not one receiver dropped a ball and then it was picked
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Wasn't able to watch it. Were the 2 INT's his fault or catchable balls?
the announcers said those were catchable balls. They said that the receivers need to start hanging on to the balls.
I tend to disagree with a lot of you people. I don't watch a lot of professional ball, but it seemed to me that he simply played like a rookie today. He's got alot of learning to do still. Some of the ints would havebeen avoidedif receivers caught catchable balls. Also, he didn't seem to have a lot of time in the pocket.
quote:Serious reply is that 1) they often don't and 2) their talking points are frequently dictated.
Guess the professional, paid announcers don't know what they're talking about.
quote:I don't think they quit on him, but the Bengals showed up breathing fire and brought the pain right from the first whistle. The Browns completely wilted on both sides of the ball and didn't come close to matching that intensity.
We can spin it however we want but the numbers don't lie. If it makes anybody feel better then sure you can say the team quit on him but you are just kidding yourselves. Why would a team fighting for their playoff lives quit on their QB's first start?
On his five series in the first half, Manziel went three-and-out three times and threw interceptions on his fourth and fifth possessions. He was 4-of-9 for 22 yards and a 12.0 QB rating going into the halftime break. He ran three times for three yards.
quote:Maybe Johnny just sucks?
No one played hard for him.... Josh Gordon play was the highlight of the whole game.
What a pathetic effort by a 'professional' team
quote:ok, i was late.
They were all terrible. JFF was terrible, but he was also down 17-0 before he threw his 2nd pass of the day. Tough spot for a rookie. His worst plays were when he tried to do too much, but hard to blame him for that when down 3 scores all day.
quote:Yeah Johnny is the definition of "professional".
No one played hard for him.... Josh Gordon play was the highlight of the whole game.
What a pathetic effort by a 'professional' team
quote:I heard they call Denver the Mile High City in Cleveland.
The City of Cleveland (the mistake on the lake, as we call it in Denver)
quote:You would to if you were running for your life all day.