Aaron Hernandez may be murder suspect...

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Fat Bib Fortuna
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Because when you're dumb enough to kill a guy 2 minutes from your own house and dumb enough to not take the evidence out of your rental car, you're probably dumb enough to open fire when the cops knock on the door.

CNNSI says Patriots will take a $12.5 million cap hit over next 2 years for his salary. ouch!
Chewy
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After thinking more about it they're even more fools for taking him to an industrial area where it's clear there's shift work going on and obviously some kind of surveillance cameras.

There were in a surburbia area so going to an area in the middle of nowhere where there's no potential cameras or people couldn't have been more than another 5-10 minutes area.

Idiots. And as for the other guys they can't be too hard to identify as I assume they have their numbers from the text.

Keeping it real went wrong...
Bunk Moreland
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they've got the 2 other guys...or at least 1 of them based on the prosecutor discussing what the conversations were in the car ride. I'm assuming they are behind held without charged or something due to their cooperation and maybe they are working out just how much they'll cooperate before formally charging them. Or they have talked to them, told them how serious it is, gotten information, and will come back later with reduced charges based on testimony or something and the dudes are walking free right now. Either way, the cops have to have heard from one of them due to how they were talking about in-car conversations.
ORAggieFan
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So he killed a guy because he couldn't be trusted and one of the accomplices rats him out?
The D
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http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/26/aaron-hernandez-gun-glock-murder-photo/

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ORAggieFan
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Is that a .45?
Guitarsoup
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they've got the 2 other guys...or at least 1 of them based on the prosecutor discussing what the conversations were in the car ride.


With everything we know about how Hernandez handled it, are you ready to rule out that he butt dialed someone and left a 30 minute voice mail will all that on it.
Bunk Moreland
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true that
Guitarsoup
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Lifted from Reddit:

The evidence:
Victim found 1/2 mile from Hernandez's home w/ numerous gunshot wounds

5 .45 caliber shells found at the scene, fired from a semi-auto weapon, based on the locations and distance between them.

Victim was not robbed, had wallet, keys and phone.

Keys were to a rental car, registered to Hernandez.

Phone contained text messages between the victim and Hernandez, within hours of the murder.

Victim's sister said her brother left at 2:30 AM in a silver Nissan Altima with three people inside

Hernandez had been renting a Silver Nissan Altima

Hernandez had known the victim for about a year, The victims girlfriend is the sister of Hernadez's Fiance

The police went to question Hernandez, Who didn't answer the door. a squad car was placed outside. Eventually Hernandez came out, and told the cops he knew they were they and that he had been watching them on his surveillance system

A warrant was issued to seize surveillance footage from Hernandez's home.

hernandez had recently installed a 14 camera system with cameras inside and out.

Upon reviewing the footage, they noticed that the first 6-8 hours of footage after the time of the murder was missing.
at 9:02 PM Hernandez texted a friend from out of state "please make it back"

9:05 he texted the victim, indicating he wanted to come by and get together with him

9:35 he texted the same out of state friend "get your ass up here" then at 10:23 "hurry your ass up"

The man he was texting and one other showed up at hernandez's home, seen on surveillance footage

Shortly after they arrive, Hernandez is seen with a firearm in his home on the surveillance system says "he is upset that he can't trust anyone anymore"

the three left Hernandez's home at 1:12 AM in the silver Nissan Altima, captured on survelliance, phone records and cell tower

the went from Hernadez's home to route 95, headed south towards (? couldn't understand) they turned around and went north. the cell phone tower tracked their movement to a gas station off route 128

at 2:10AM Hernandez bought Gas, Bubbalicious blue cotton candy gum, and black and milds which are used for smoking mariujana (the prosecutor seems to be mistaken about common blunt cigars but oh well)

Next they went to the victims home, at 2:32 am Hernandez sent a text "we're here" to the victim, this is when the victims sister saw him leave with them, Hernandez was driving

They drove back to North Attleboro, this is corroborated by some random surveillance cameras and route was determined by time and distance traveled.

during the ride, Hernandez had a conversation with the victim indicating he was upset with him. The two had gone to a club together friday night.

he said some things happened that night and he wasn't sure if he could trust the victim, one of them was that the victim had spoken to some people He had troubles with, and he was mad about it.

At 3:07 AM the victim sent a text to his sister "did you see who I am with" no response he texted again at 3:11 AM "Hello?"

at 3:19 am his sister replied "who?" at 3:22 the victim texted back "NFL" then 1 minute later "Just so you know"

at the time of these texts, the car is seen on surveillance cameras in the area of the murder site/Hernandez's home
Surveilance cameras show the vehicle driving down the road to the murder site at 3:23 AM

between 3:23 and 3:27 am workers nearby hear multiple gunshots

cameras pick up the vehicle along the route between the muder site and Hernandez's home at 3:27 and 3:28 AM.

Hernandez's own Surveilance picks sees him arriving back home at 3:29 AM

Police confirm it is only a 2 minute drive.

autopsy found that all evidence was consistent with the victim being murdered where he was found. In other words, he wasn't dumped. Also consistent Time of death to the time the car was there.

two through and through wounds to the victim's chest. Police returned to the scene and dug where the victim was, they found the bullets, indicating the victim was on the ground when he was shot. Both bullets were .45 caliber, consistend with the casings found. All fired from the same unknown gun

at 3:30 AM Hernandez is seen with his companions in his driveway, one of whom has a gun.

they go inside. Surveillance shows Hernandez walking around with a gun in his hand.

all three go to the basement. Surveillance cameras shut off

later that day, 5:30 PM Hernandez and his companions return the Nissan Altima to the rental agency, Hernandez offers the attendant Blue Bubbalicious.

one of the side mirrors is broken on the car, footage of the vehicle earlier in the night suggest it wasn't broken when he left boston, he tells the rental agency he didn't even notice it. The evidence being that it was broken sometime between leaving boston and arriving back at home.

He rents another car and returns home, companions leave.

At the rental agency, a piece of bubbalicious and a shell casing were found, attendant threw them away. When questioned, she told investigators about it, they found it in the dumpster, Shell casing matched to the murder weapon.

Tire impressions at the murder scene right next to the body were consistent with a front wheel drive vehicle (altima is FWD)

Investigators checked out the rental car. Tire treads matched those at the crime scene. Dirt found on the car also matched the crimescene

They found a .22 nearby in a search of everywhere between Hernandez's home and the murder site. Hernandez a month prior had been involved an altercation in providence rhode island. He had someone with him who was seen to place a gun under a car. This man matches the description of one of his companions on the night of the murder.

The gun under the car in Providence was traced to a florida gunstore. The 22 found between Hernandez's home and the murder site was from the same store.
further search warrant of Hernandezs's home ordered. They found 22 ammo, but no 22 gun. They also found a large capacity .762 hungarian semi auto rifle, 32 round clip fully loaded. Hernandez's prints on it, he doesn't have the correct paperwork to own it.

Not recovered was the Black semi auto handgun seen in Hernnadez's hand before and after the murder. the second individuals gun not found either.
hernandez's girlfriend was spoken to by police, she was cooperanting until a call from hernandez telling her not to. She then stopped talking.
the victim had defensive wounds and seemed to attempt to stop the bullets with his arms.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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There needs to be a Mock Trial with J. Reinhold for this case.
AgAllStar91
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If this isn't the perfect crime, I don't know what is. Absolute genius.
rlag09
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Mensa candidate right there
Ag_07
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Wow...All I can say is that Hernandez better hope his lawyer can finagle around some of this evidence not being allowed in court or it's going to be a quick deliberation.
AgBeliever
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GS definitely has the hots for Tebow.

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This story really needs more White Broncos.



AgBeliever
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Wow. These guys went full retard in just about every way. I'll be amazed if they don't get a conviction. Then again, there are a lot of morons in juries.

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Some summary of transcript from court:

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Court transcript, obv doesn't look good

Texts going back and forth from Hernandez to his friends to "get your asses up here". Hernandez says in the house that "he can't trust anyone anymore" shortly before they leave. Left the house, bought stuff at a gas station, arrived at Lloyd's home. Lloyd got in the car, proceeded down Fayston St(caught on video), tracks the car through the city of Boston, got on 95, went back to North Attleboro. Hernandez is upset with Lloyd after the previous night at the club, can't trust him, is mad at what Lloyd is telling people, Lloyd sends text to his mom and sister saying did you see who i am with after 3:22, sends another text to his mom saying Just so you know who I am with NFL, 3:22 am they go by Seekonk Supply, they go by Metal working near his home but they go a different way behind the industrial buildings. Car is down there at 3:23 AM. Between 3:23 and 3:27 AM people working in buildings hear gun shots approx. 5. 3:28 N Attleboro Electric Department picks up video of him. Distance of home to homicide site is 2 minutes. 5 shell casings recovered from scene. Rigor mortis and position of body found is consistent with this timeframe and nature of where the crime was committed. Dug under his body and found that he had been shot when he was down on the ground after initial gunshots. 45 caliber weapon casings found and matched to the gun. At 3:27 AM when Hernandez left, the direction he traveled was consistent to the direction he need to go in order to go home. Surveillance shows him and 2 associates leaving the vehicle upon arrival to home. Hernandez seen carrying the gun and goes to walk through home with it. All go down to basement and they shut off the surveillance. 5:30 pm they go to the car rental to return car and there is damage to car but was not damage earlier in the night. Denies all knowledge of damage. Trade in rental for Chrysler 300 and go home. 2 guys with him leave in that car. Found shell casing under the drivers seat and gum he offered rental attendant. They call cleaners over to clean house and car. Police seized dumpster where everything was thrown out and found a shell casing. Evidence shows Lloyd was killed right as he left the car. Tire marks match Nissan Altima Hernandez rented. His friends tried to get rid of the gun under a car.

Guitarsoup
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The city is 96% white and the median family income was $69,461. I'm guessing there are some well educated people there to pick from on the jury.
Eugene4x
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Nm

Not worth it

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cone
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man i wish i could have seen that pre-edit
Guitarsoup
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The texts are IN the phone.
piag94
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Did he do ANYTHING right?? (in terms of getting rid of evidence)
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rlag09
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He is now being looked at for a double murder in 2012. Dam
rlag09
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http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22702430/2013/06/27/source-hernandez-investigated-in-boston-double-killing
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Guitarsoup
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However, a man named Carlos Ortiz, 27, was being held Wednesday in connection to the case on a $1.5 million bond at the Hartford Correctional Center in Hartford, said a dispatcher at the center. The dispatcher did not know the charges against Ortiz.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/26/patriot-hernandez-charged-with-murder/gQZfHMkwygeO1BWNmYp23K/story.html
92Ag95
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Get up....go to practice.....go home....eat big dinner....go to bed.

Get up....go to stadium....play game....go home....eat big dinner....go to bed.

Collect fat paycheck.


How mother f..ing hard is it?

Some people work their asses off their entire lives and have little to retire on.....and some punk with the opportunity to retire as a multi millionaire in his early thirties can't seem to not f..k that up. It's depressing really.
Guitarsoup
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Videotaping this crime spree is the best idea we ever had!

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cone
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How mother f..ing hard is it?


you really should consider all the hardships he had to overcome growing up when and where he did

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W
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a dumb person with a million dollars...is still a dumb person

Guitarsoup
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From a news source:
9:02 p.m.– Hernandez sent a text to a friend who was out of state, “Please make it back.”

9:05 p.m – Hernandez texted the victim saying he wanted to come by and get together with him.

9:35 p.m – Hernandez texted a friend from Connecticut and wrote, “Get your ass up here.”

10:23 p.m – Hernandez texted the same friend, “Hurry your ass up.”

Soon after his friends arrived and Hernandez met with them outside, they went inside and Hernandez was seen with a firearm. Prosecutors said that Hernandez made the statement that he “can’t trust anyone anymore.”

1:12 a.m. – The group of three left Hernandez’s home in a silver Nissan. The car began its course from Hernandez’s home to I-95, and shortly after turned around and headed north. A cell tower tracked their movements to a gas station on Route 128.

2:10 a.m. – Car stopped, Hernandez bought gas. One bought Bubblicious blue cotton candy gum and black and milds that were used for rolling papers. The group then got back in the car and continued to Lloyd’s home.

2:32 a.m. – Car arrived outside Lloyd’s home. Text was sent to Lloyd, “We’re here”. Sister then saw Lloyd enter the car that Hernandez was in.

According to the prosecution, during the car ride Hernandez told Lloyd that certain things had happened on Friday night that he was upset about. Lloyd had spoken to people at a club in Boston that both men were at and Hernandez had ‘sensed troubles about them.’

3:07 a.m. - Lloyd sent a text to his sister “Did you see who I am with?”

3:11 a.m. – After no response, Lloyd sent second text, “Hello?”

3:19 a.m. – Lloyd’s sister responded and said, “Who?”

3:22 a.m. - Lloyd responded “NFL” - At this time, the car entered into the industrial park.

3:23 a.m. – Lloyd’s final text read “Just so you know.”

3:23 – 3:27 a.m – People working in the industrial park report hearing gunshots.

3:29 a.m. – Hernandez seen coming up his driveway at his North Attleboro home.

The gum that was purchased at the gas station around 2:10 in the morning resurfaced when the rental car was returned. According to the prosecution, Hernandez offered a piece of the gum to the rental agency attendant when the car was returned after the murder. The attendant then found a piece of chewed blue gum in the car, next to a shell casing that was then tossed in a dumpster.

Investigators found at the bottom of the dumpster a .45 caliber shell casing and a piece of chewed Bubblicious gum.

Prosecutors told the court that forensics indicate that casing matches the ones found at the murder scene.
Guitarsoup
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I'm guessing Aaron Hernandez will have a negative rating for awareness and elusiveness in Madden 25.
OCEN99
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Also from Reddit today, the last guy to tackle Aaron Hernandez was Bernard Pollard.

/cue Twilight Zone music
DRE06
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Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez is being investigated in connection with a double murder in Boston's South End in July 2012, a law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN.
The source says that the Boston Police Department has located and impounded a silver SUV with Rhode Island registration placed at the scene of the murders and sought by police for nearly a year. Investigators now believe that Hernandez was renting the impounded vehicle at the time of the 2012 murders, according to the source.

Hernandez already is charged with first degree murder in last week's shooting death of Odin Lloyd. He is due in court at 2 p.m. to appeal a judge's decision to hold him without bail, the court magistrate told CNN.
Ag_07
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Also from Reddit today, the last guy to tackle Aaron Hernandez was Bernard Pollard.

/cue Twilight Zone music


What's so weird about that?

[This message has been edited by Ag_07 (edited 6/27/2013 1:25p).]
ORAggieFan
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Being reported he killed this guy because the guy knew about the other murders.
 
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