I work for a medical device manufacturer. 20k+ employees worldwide. We're having a really, really hard time finding employees for our production lines here in Houston. Management knows it, and so far they've taken a "wait and see" approach on the mandates. They haven't been aggressive or pushy about any of it.

But I think on my team of about 20 of us, I'm the only one left that hasn't yet been vaccinated. I'm not fully vested in my retirement yet so if I walk, I lose tens of thousands of dollars. And this company pays really, really well with excellent benefits.

I'm going to go the weekly testing route if it comes down to it. Make it as difficult for them as possible and put off vaccination as long as I can.

Gabster43213 said:

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Years ago, my kids were required to have certain shots or not be able to enroll in school.

Whats the big difference?

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Lots

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I've had 7 jobs since graduating from A&M. Not a single one of them ever asked me my vaccination status or asked me to provide it as a condition of my employment. I've been working for 26 years. NO job I've ever had in my life as ever required any sort of vaccine as a condition of employment.

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How many new vaccines came out over that time that weren't required for school?

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No idea what you're trying to post. I'm against vaccine mandates. I simply stated your reasoning about previous vaccines is a weak argument against them.

I made no argument for or against vaccines.

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I made no argument for or against vaccines.

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I work in the Aerospace industry and my biggest question is where does the trickle down stop??

Do subs to our subs count as Federal even if they just sell bulk material to the public?? And one of our subs happen to buy material from them?

Not sure where the line of government contractor ends.

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I run a firm that provides both remote and on-site engineers for DoD/Aero. Our people have to get vaccinated. Hell, one guy has to get vaccinated who is 10 states away and will never be on a client or customer site.

No such requirements at my company. They did offer additional vacation if you submitted proof that you were vaccinated.

Taking a hard stance is rather harsh in my opinion, but am I the only thinking this mandate is going to be a great time to move up the ladder since some are choosing not to vaccinate?

Your right companies have a choice. Most companies prior to Covid already struggled to find high level talent. Let them start to fire people. Top producers will just go elsewhere if fired. Great way to dig a huge hole in your talent pool. There is already a massive shortage of workers.

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Posting childish hashtags and rants on the company intranet is not going to get you taken seriously. Coworkers can go to HR as a department or as another group. Can talk to upper management as a group. It doesn't have to be 1 on 1. But it should be done on a professional level. Being unprofessional is not going to change company policy.

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Exactly. There are valid arguments one can make. The problem is, most that fight so emotionally cannot make them and look like fools.

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AJ02 said:

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I've had 7 jobs since graduating from A&M. Not a single one of them ever asked me my vaccination status or asked me to provide it as a condition of my employment. I've been working for 26 years. NO job I've ever had in my life as ever required any sort of vaccine as a condition of employment.

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How many new vaccines came out over that time that weren't required for school?

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The ones required for school prevented you from contracting the diseases, and helped lead to their eradication. This one is basically a flu shot (which isn't required anywhere). You can still get COVID, and you can still spread COVID. However, you may not know you are spreading it. (It in no way eradicates COVID)

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That is true. And completely irrelevant to what I asked.

I don't support mandates. I support valid arguments against mandates, not irrelevant BS that hurts the cause and is often the message.

Thought I replied to someone else. Sorry!


But to answer your question, it is possible 1 or 2 vaccines have come out since someone was in school that are now "required". Pertussis and Varicella

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Thought I replied to someone else. Sorry!


But to answer your question, it is possible 1 or 2 vaccines have come out since someone was in school that are now "required". Pertussis and Varicella

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Varicella isn't required if one proves previous infection. It's also given for very different reasons.

I'll be honest, I know little on whooping cough.

Whooping cough sucks. But the shot isn't a one and done either. It is part of the tetanus booster now

We are announcing a mandate tomorrow. Should be a fun day at the plant.

I saw a job posting by Westlake Chemical recently that said vaccination was a requirement of employment

I'm guessing we might see more of that moving forward. There might be some federal incentive to these companies to require it. Otherwise, form a business sense, I don't see the reason.

Rusty GCS said:

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I saw a job posting by Westlake Chemical recently that said vaccination was a requirement of employment

I'm guessing we might see more of that moving forward. There might be some federal incentive to these companies to require it. Otherwise, form a business sense, I don't see the reason.

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My understanding is many refining companies are doing the same.

Max06,

How's it going? More people than they expected didn't sign the acknowledgment of the vaccine mandate so there are talks of periodic testing in place of vaccination. We have been hurting for qualified people for a while so I guess we get some leeway. Of course with anything related to the military/government, there are always exceptions to the rules.

I'm not privvy to the details, but it sounds like less than 50% if our workforce has provided the required information as of this week. They do have until November 9 to do so though, so that may change. There's been a significant number of people separating since the mandate.

I do know quite a few that are very begrudgingly choosing to get vaccinated because they cannot afford to lose their job/healthcare. It will be interesting to see the long-term effects on morale. I have a feeling there are A LOT of people searching for new employment at this time.