Jeeper79 said:

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Up until not long ago, some of you said Trump was a top 3 all-time president. Some even said number 1.

Do you still hold that opinion?

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Follow up question

does anyone really want to be affiliated with a party that espouses this kind of belief system towards Trump?

I just don't see this kind of rhetoric coming from Republicans, the Maga crowd, Conservatives, or generally sane human beings.

If Democrats hate you this much, without legitimate cause you're probably doing allot right, despite your failures. I'd put trump pretty high on the list, but I don't know where I would rank him specifically.

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I would possibly put Trump up there with Harrison, Garfield or Hoover. He definitely should not be last.

Jeeper79 said:

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Up until not long ago, some of you said Trump was a top 3 all-time president. Some even said number 1.

Do you still hold that opinion?

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Yes. In fact he is my favorite president in my lifetime. He did, or attempted to do what he promised. It kinda sad that folks will not credit Trump with avoiding a future war with China.

China. Can't afford to go to war and they can't afford the fuel costs. Trump will get zero credit for this.

Just an Ag said:

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Up until Iran and the economic ramifications on inflation, he was an ace. Iran was a bad, bad miscalculation. It will forever tarnish his record.

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It won't, it's a short period of time with minor ramifications on his presidency.

BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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BigRobSA said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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valvemonkey91 said:

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Love Trump. Still do. Top 3 presidents for sure. His closing of the wide open border, his holding NATO accountable for their part of the bill, his re-shoring of our manufacturing base, America First mindset, pulling the curtain back on the institutional corruption (USAID, DOGE), clearing out the western hemisphere of communists in S America and Venezuela, drilling for oil, partnering with tech bros to strengthen our defense systems with artificial intelligence, his cleaning up the crime in DC and other blue ****holes, his building a much needed bigger White House ballroom (read that as a safety bunker for the leader of the free world), his willingness to fight the culture wars…. The list goes on.

History will be kind to Trump for all he accomplished. The uniparty completely changed the demographics of the country since 1965, and because of that, demographics are our destiny. The country has a weak electorate (especially women) and lots of voters don't like the way he unabashedly told the truth about it. Too many "feels" and not enough fortitude to face facts.

Did he make mistakes? Absolutely.
He should not have allowed his justice dept to just stop prosecutions on Russia Collusion, J6, Pipe bomber, Epstein, DOGE, USAID, etc.

Do I think Trump is in Epstein files? Probably, but not for what the left says. He isn't a pedo. That would have come out 10yrs ago. Some powerful people in DC are most certainly in them along with influential people and hiding that was the beginning of his downfall. That's when I was first disappointed in him.

Do I think Israel made him invade Iran? No. They are certainly happy about it but he has been talking about crippling Iran for 40yrs. Trump is no dummy. He KNEW a war would cause fuel price to skyrocket going into a midterm which means he had to have a reason.

AIPAC owns our politicians too and one man can't fight that alone.

I just wish he had more help from the leadership in his party. The GOP is as useless as pig **** on a pump handle. They are cowards and owned by lobbyists and do not represent us.

I am glad he decimated this current GOP because they deserved it. Trump's a Patriot. Always has been.

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This post is awesome.

Trump is amazing & a genius! And when he isn't amazing and a genius it's everyone's fault but his! He's totally in control except when he's a victim. And even when he's wrong he's actually right!

MAGA (the cult of personality that surrounds Trump) is a mental illness.

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says a guy who probably voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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You need to update your spreadsheet.

Pagerman did no such thing. He's a conservative and, thus, not MAGA

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Yeah he's CM from reading his last post that guy who supports Trump....You people are funny thinking you will ever get a 100% conservative in office is never going to happen wise up.

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We'd take "even a little bit conservative". Trump isn't that. Voted for him, but only because the other one was word salad Harris. He was a little better than her.

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yeah ok what? He's the most conservative POTUS you will have in your lifetime little err big Rob.

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Nope. I was around for Reagan. The actual GOAT of my lifetime. Trump is a liberal, just not a progressive one. He's an old school NY Dem. Better than Biden/Harris/Obama but that's not much of a feat.

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Did you know Reagan gave millions of illegals amnesty? If you were around in his day you'd be calling him a liberal.

1939 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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valvemonkey91 said:

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Love Trump. Still do. Top 3 presidents for sure. His closing of the wide open border, his holding NATO accountable for their part of the bill, his re-shoring of our manufacturing base, America First mindset, pulling the curtain back on the institutional corruption (USAID, DOGE), clearing out the western hemisphere of communists in S America and Venezuela, drilling for oil, partnering with tech bros to strengthen our defense systems with artificial intelligence, his cleaning up the crime in DC and other blue ****holes, his building a much needed bigger White House ballroom (read that as a safety bunker for the leader of the free world), his willingness to fight the culture wars…. The list goes on.

History will be kind to Trump for all he accomplished. The uniparty completely changed the demographics of the country since 1965, and because of that, demographics are our destiny. The country has a weak electorate (especially women) and lots of voters don't like the way he unabashedly told the truth about it. Too many "feels" and not enough fortitude to face facts.

Did he make mistakes? Absolutely.
He should not have allowed his justice dept to just stop prosecutions on Russia Collusion, J6, Pipe bomber, Epstein, DOGE, USAID, etc.

Do I think Trump is in Epstein files? Probably, but not for what the left says. He isn't a pedo. That would have come out 10yrs ago. Some powerful people in DC are most certainly in them along with influential people and hiding that was the beginning of his downfall. That's when I was first disappointed in him.

Do I think Israel made him invade Iran? No. They are certainly happy about it but he has been talking about crippling Iran for 40yrs. Trump is no dummy. He KNEW a war would cause fuel price to skyrocket going into a midterm which means he had to have a reason.

AIPAC owns our politicians too and one man can't fight that alone.

I just wish he had more help from the leadership in his party. The GOP is as useless as pig **** on a pump handle. They are cowards and owned by lobbyists and do not represent us.

I am glad he decimated this current GOP because they deserved it. Trump's a Patriot. Always has been.

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This post is awesome.

Trump is amazing & a genius! And when he isn't amazing and a genius it's everyone's fault but his! He's totally in control except when he's a victim. And even when he's wrong he's actually right!

MAGA (the cult of personality that surrounds Trump) is a mental illness.

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says a guy who probably voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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You need to update your spreadsheet.

Pagerman did no such thing. He's a conservative and, thus, not MAGA

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Yeah he's CM from reading his last post that guy who supports Trump....You people are funny thinking you will ever get a 100% conservative in office is never going to happen wise up.

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We'd take "even a little bit conservative". Trump isn't that. Voted for him, but only because the other one was word salad Harris. He was a little better than her.

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yeah ok what? He's the most conservative POTUS you will have in your lifetime little err big Rob.

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Nope. I was around for Reagan. The actual GOAT of my lifetime. Trump is a liberal, just not a progressive one. He's an old school NY Dem. Better than Biden/Harris/Obama but that's not much of a feat.

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Did you know Reagan gave millions of illegals amnesty? If you were around in his day you'd be calling him a liberal.

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Those of us that were around when Reagan was president know what happened surrounding that event.

And no one who lived through the Reagan era would call him a liberal, least of all Big Rob.

pagerman @ work said:

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1939 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Wings007Ag said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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valvemonkey91 said:

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Love Trump. Still do. Top 3 presidents for sure. His closing of the wide open border, his holding NATO accountable for their part of the bill, his re-shoring of our manufacturing base, America First mindset, pulling the curtain back on the institutional corruption (USAID, DOGE), clearing out the western hemisphere of communists in S America and Venezuela, drilling for oil, partnering with tech bros to strengthen our defense systems with artificial intelligence, his cleaning up the crime in DC and other blue ****holes, his building a much needed bigger White House ballroom (read that as a safety bunker for the leader of the free world), his willingness to fight the culture wars…. The list goes on.

History will be kind to Trump for all he accomplished. The uniparty completely changed the demographics of the country since 1965, and because of that, demographics are our destiny. The country has a weak electorate (especially women) and lots of voters don't like the way he unabashedly told the truth about it. Too many "feels" and not enough fortitude to face facts.

Did he make mistakes? Absolutely.
He should not have allowed his justice dept to just stop prosecutions on Russia Collusion, J6, Pipe bomber, Epstein, DOGE, USAID, etc.

Do I think Trump is in Epstein files? Probably, but not for what the left says. He isn't a pedo. That would have come out 10yrs ago. Some powerful people in DC are most certainly in them along with influential people and hiding that was the beginning of his downfall. That's when I was first disappointed in him.

Do I think Israel made him invade Iran? No. They are certainly happy about it but he has been talking about crippling Iran for 40yrs. Trump is no dummy. He KNEW a war would cause fuel price to skyrocket going into a midterm which means he had to have a reason.

AIPAC owns our politicians too and one man can't fight that alone.

I just wish he had more help from the leadership in his party. The GOP is as useless as pig **** on a pump handle. They are cowards and owned by lobbyists and do not represent us.

I am glad he decimated this current GOP because they deserved it. Trump's a Patriot. Always has been.

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This post is awesome.

Trump is amazing & a genius! And when he isn't amazing and a genius it's everyone's fault but his! He's totally in control except when he's a victim. And even when he's wrong he's actually right!

MAGA (the cult of personality that surrounds Trump) is a mental illness.

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says a guy who probably voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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You need to update your spreadsheet.

Pagerman did no such thing. He's a conservative and, thus, not MAGA

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Yeah he's CM from reading his last post that guy who supports Trump....You people are funny thinking you will ever get a 100% conservative in office is never going to happen wise up.

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We'd take "even a little bit conservative". Trump isn't that. Voted for him, but only because the other one was word salad Harris. He was a little better than her.

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yeah ok what? He's the most conservative POTUS you will have in your lifetime little err big Rob.

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Nope. I was around for Reagan. The actual GOAT of my lifetime. Trump is a liberal, just not a progressive one. He's an old school NY Dem. Better than Biden/Harris/Obama but that's not much of a feat.

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Did you know Reagan gave millions of illegals amnesty? If you were around in his day you'd be calling him a liberal.

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Those of us that were around when Reagan was president know what happened surrounding that event.

And no one who lived through the Reagan era would call him a liberal, least of all Big Rob.

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granting amnesty to illegals, Iran/Contra affair yeah man totally conservative. lol/cryface

Oh, I forget Ronald repeatedly raised taxes on the American people.

Wings007Ag said:

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Oh, I forget Ronald repeatedly raised taxes on the American people.

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If you were half as smart as you think you are you would be dangerous.