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Trump's second term is horrendously worse than his first. I do not like the Democrats and only vote for exceptions if ever. Trump, however, is savaging the Republican brand and needs to go. I will be glad when he's gone in 2029.

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You would be better served by condemning the Marxist 4th estate and college professors.

Im not going to get into the weeds of this argument but I'll offer two quick things.

A) Yes, Trump's personality is exhausting. He does himself no favors. The "ready to have him gone" sentiment is understandable to an extent.
B) Why only "to an extent"? Because if you think the media or the left in general (but I repeat myself) are going to be any less antagonistic, hyperbolic, and obstructive, well, you are fooling yourself. Anyone, yes, ANYONE with an "R" next to their name, no matter how diplomatic and genteel will be savaged by them.

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Venezuela and those countries south of our border that were pouring people across might disagree with you. China might also.

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Venezuela was about oil, not immigration.

Trump has turned into a complete loser and weak leader. His shtick was funny when he wasn't getting American soldiers killed and running up the price of everything.

I think JD can be the guy. Really like his podcast with Joe Rogan, seems like he actually understands the issues and the consequences.

I think it's as simple as:

Dems neglected workers to focus on social justice issues.
Dems are particularly terrible at strategy and succession planning (see: RBG, Biden/Kamala hot swap)
Trump's message resonated with workers.
Trump hasn't improved the lives of workers - bad policy and strategy (or lack of any strategy) - maybe they got 1000 bucks for their kid's Trump account and saved another 1K in taxes but that's all burned up by inflation/gas). He calls affordability basically a hoax. Maybe cuz he's added a couple $Bs to his bank account himself.

Now workers and independents will move away from Trump in at least some meaningful numbers. If polls reflect that they are "fake polls". If elections reflect that they are "stolen elections".

Trump doesn't deal in details. He probably hadn't heard of the straight of Hormuz before this year. He picked Paxton despite his baggage and it's the primary reason Texas has a close senate race.

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Good luck with that, no president in history has ruled "conservatively" its political suicide. Also, I voted for him for one thing to secure the border. Next president no matter what party will open the border again.

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You think Desantis or Rubio or Vance would "open the border"? Really?

I am ready for the Liberal Democrats/Socialist to give up and go home, but that won't happen.

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If you look at the last 40ish years, there are quite a few presidents whose economic policies & decisions were more conservative than Trump.

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You might want to rethink that post.
From 1986 to 2026. We have had Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Trump and Biden. The only time there was some semblance of fiscal responsibility was the second term of Clinton which was a result of the Republican majority congresses "Contract with America"led by Newt Gingrich.

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Trump has turned into a complete loser and weak leader. His shtick was funny when he wasn't getting American soldiers killed and running up the price of everything.

I think JD can be the guy. Really like his podcast with Joe Rogan, seems like he actually understands the issues and the consequences.

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JD's political career is over after 2028. At least on a national scale.

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Danny Vermin said:

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What a whiny post and the resident libs starred the hell out if it. I have a Trump 2028 magnet on my work vehicle just to trigger the Libs. I wish he was a dictator and just stayed in office til he died then hand it over to Eric or Don Jr.

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This a perfect example of what so many GOPers are tired of. Many folks are beginning to feel embarrassed they supported Trump which will only grow worse during his final two years. His approval rating will continue to drop and he will continue to double and triple down on the stupidity.

We're already seeing the start of it with many GOP politicians distancing themselves from Trump during the mid-terms. Even this board will eventually turn on him in large scale too.

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No one is feeling embarrassed they supported Trump.

If you had some stars and a history of supporting Trump, this post would have more credibility.

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Let's bookmark this post and revisit in 5 years to see where things stand regarding Trump both in general and on this board.

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I don't know a single person who will be embarrassed that they voted for Trump, when the alternative was a bunch of carney show freaks who support mentally ill biological men in womens sports/showers/locker rooms and wanted wide open borders and socialism, among many other anti-American, anti-Christian, and depraved things.

I would honestly vote for a bowl of AIDS infested diarrhea over ANY modern living democrat. And would not at all be embarrassed about that.

You do you tho. Go ahead and vote for the godless freaks. Or live your life in shame and embarrassment that you didn't line up to vote for Kamala like your left winged buddies. Live your life in fear that a bunch of liberal losers are going to make fun of you for not doing so lol.

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Trump is not fiscally conservative, at all.

Bill Clinton's last term is the closest thing we got to fiscal conservatism.

Trump is somewhere between socialist light and a spoiled rich child when it comes to fiscal policy. DOGE was a distraction to go after political enemies...

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Lying about DOGE is the talking point I guess

Shut down the border? Yes. Good.
Major decrease in crime? Yes. Good.
Major increase in fraud prosecutions? Yes, but need more.
Major decrease in fentanyl smuggling and deaths? Yes. Good.
Major reduction in federal government employees? Yes, most in decades. Far more than even Reagan. Good.
Major reduction in regulations and bureaucracy? Yes, it's not getting reported but it has been quietly happening. Good.
Cleaning leftist political corruption out of US bureaucracy? Underway, lots of leftist activist have quit or been invited to leave. They're hard to root out of cushy bureaucracy though. Mostly good.
Major modernization and refocus of US military on winning future wars, not wasting money on social engineering. Yes. Good.

Problems:

Spending is still ridiculous.
The tariff policies are highly dubious as economic growth engines .Dont get into protracted conflicts. Get in and destroy and win ruthlessly quick or don't go.
Ukraine policy is still a mess. Putin is not going to make a deal if he believes he can eventually prevail by attrition.

Eye rolls: Epstein. It's 90% fantastical conspiracy and 10% a really scummy dude that tried to make high placed relationships he could bilk or exploit as investors. He was also a perv. It wasn't some vast global intelligence conspiracy or any of that loony crap. It just wasn't. But, that narrative was useful to the party out of power to bash the party in power because so many people love a good conspiracy narrative to get all bent out of shape over, and it first worked for Trump before the election, them worked for the Dems after the election. Let me put it this way: a certain group of people LOVED the Q thread and Q conspiracy and it turned out to be a dud. If you bit on that, maybe take a step back.

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The Trump era ends only when Trump has passed away. (And no, I'm not wishing for him to die, merely a statement of fact.)

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This is true. The legacy media won't be able to quit him.

Their entire existence, and 98% of the Democrat campaign strategy is based on bashing Trump.

My friends know my wife is a huge anti-Trumper. She believes firmly that he's gonna seize permanent power and never let go. She knows this in her soul and cannot be dissuaded from the certainty by any argument. I know. I've tried.

Setting aside the fact the man is *old* and has… pic.twitter.com/lZNjhAUHCd

— Brad R. Torgersen (@BradRTorgersen) October 25, 2026

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My friends know my wife is a huge anti-Trumper. She believes firmly that he's gonna seize permanent power and never let go. She knows this in her soul and cannot be dissuaded from the certainty by any argument. I know. I've tried.

Setting aside the fact the man is *old* and has no desire for a third term, I keep coming back to the fact that Trump has become the defining personality of American politics in the 21st century. Doesn't matter if I think he's a showboating showman with no real statesmanship. He towers over Obama, W. Bush, every Senator, every Congressman, every Governor, etc.

Everyone and everything just pings and pongs off the hull of the U.S.S. Trump and it's all reactive politics all the time. Even the DSAwho are Communists cloaked in Millennial metrosexualismjust hurl rotten fruit at this guy. Using him to hype up their growing base. If he did not exist they would have to invent him.

The Orange One is the dragon breathing fire across the American political scene, and the number of jousting pugilists who tilt at the Orange windmill is legion.

He defines who they are. Never the opposite. And I suspect in many ways this is what drives their hate.

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What a whiny post and the resident libs starred the hell out if it. I have a Trump 2028 magnet on my work vehicle just to trigger the Libs. I wish he was a dictator and just stayed in office til he died then hand it over to Eric or Don Jr.

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This a perfect example of what so many GOPers are tired of. Many folks are beginning to feel embarrassed they supported Trump which will only grow worse during his final two years. His approval rating will continue to drop and he will continue to double and triple down on the stupidity.

We're already seeing the start of it with many GOP politicians distancing themselves from Trump during the mid-terms. Even this board will eventually turn on him in large scale too.

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No one is feeling embarrassed they supported Trump.

If you had some stars and a history of supporting Trump, this post would have more credibility.

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Let's bookmark this post and revisit in 5 years to see where things stand regarding Trump both in general and on this board.

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No actual conservative will ever wish they would have voted for Hillary or Kamala. That would be insane. Maybe a different primary vote, but the Democrat party is an absolute cancer that is desperately trying to kill this country. If you want positive change, encourage the Democrat party to go through a complete and total reformation.

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You're right about the Democrat Party wanting to kill this country. There's no doubt about it, especially with their incessant attempts to subvert the Constitution. They're fast becoming a majority misfit collection of commies and muslims, who would end up killing each other if ever in power.

Trump is diametrically opposed to these reprobates who can't control him, with both those reasons being why they hate him so much.

One other thing, if Kamala ever won the presidency (God help us) the Deep State would been calling the shots. If Hitlery ever won (God really help us) she would be calling the shots and off Deep State denizens if they got in her way.

Before Big Orange came on the scene:

1) John McCain - 176 electoral votes

2) Mitt Romney - 206 electoral votes

3) Ohio, Florida and Iowa were swing States

4) Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were safely considered “The Blue Wall”

Since Trump:

1) THREE consecutive… pic.twitter.com/bk7MVHF5jR

— KJofTikTok (@TheKJofTikTok) October 26, 2026

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Rapier108 said:

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The Trump era ends only when Trump has passed away. (And no, I'm not wishing for him to die, merely a statement of fact.)

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This is true. The legacy media won't be able to quit him.

Their entire existence, and 98% of the Democrat campaign strategy is based on bashing Trump.

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Once this next presidential cycle starts Trump for the first time in many years will not be a candidate. Republicans will turn on him as they try to make their own way to the top and he will be in a meltdown. Yes the media will stoke it as it will be good for ratings. But when the turn happens from the Dems new charges to the Republicans backstabbing don't expect the same support from the faithful like before.

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Even when Trump is out of office, he will control to control the Republican Party by telling his followers who to vote for.

And we'll keep losing Senate seats and governorships because he selects ****ty candidates who's only qualification is they kiss his ass.

The Trump era ends only when Trump has passed away. (And no, I'm not wishing for him to die, merely a statement of fact.)

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I think Trump's grip on the Republican party will continue to loosen as more and more members continue to move away. It will become politically advantageous to them to disavow Trump and they will absolutely do it in large numbers. The only reason many of them aligned with him in the first place is because they saw him as a necessary evil.

Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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Trump has turned into a complete loser and weak leader. His shtick was funny when he wasn't getting American soldiers killed and running up the price of everything.

I think JD can be the guy. Really like his podcast with Joe Rogan, seems like he actually understands the issues and the consequences.

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JD's political career is over after 2028. At least on a national scale.

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He currently has the highest chance of 2028 presidential election odds on Polymarket....

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Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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No one who voted for Trump will ever wish they had voted for Hillary or Kamala instead.

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Trump has turned into a complete loser and weak leader. His shtick was funny when he wasn't getting American soldiers killed and running up the price of everything.

I think JD can be the guy. Really like his podcast with Joe Rogan, seems like he actually understands the issues and the consequences.

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JD's political career is over after 2028. At least on a national scale.

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Yup, JD is done. It's challenging enough for a veep as it is, but combine that with being associated with Trump? And yet, i think there is a greater than zero chance the GOP will put him up anyway, giving the Dems a huge gift. And they're just as likely to screw that up too by putting up Kamala. Sigh.

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Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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No one who voted for Trump will ever wish they had voted for Hillary or Kamala instead.

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Agreed. But many will be embarrassed they supported Trump though.

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Ag_of_08 said:

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Trump is not fiscally conservative, at all.

Bill Clinton's last term is the closest thing we got to fiscal conservatism.

Trump is somewhere between socialist light and a spoiled rich child when it comes to fiscal policy. DOGE was a distraction to go after political enemies...

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Clinton benefited from a Newt Gingrich led Republican congress hth.

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lol

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And we had a Republican in the WH, both chambers of congress, and the SC and have pissed it away. Do we need Gingrich back? Oh no that wouldn't work, bc no one can tell DJT no.

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Corruption seems to be the top talking point word used by Dems this voting season. Where is all this corruption? Virtually everything Trump has fine has been obstructed by the judicial branch for all sorts of dreamed up reasons and gets ok'd nearly every time.

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huge lol here. He's not hiding it. He's selling inside information via an api. He's running his own high frequency trading operation that would make Pelosi blush. His opening act was a crypto rug pull.

TrumpFans may accept the grift as price of doing business and at least he's not a lib, but it is in fact happening and he's telling us straight to our faces.

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LOL, Then prosecute, if you really have a case.

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Doge shut down usaid

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and Decreased the number of gubmint employees by 12 percent.

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Adding that one to my quiver. Hat tip.

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Add that they found that 253 year old and his friends still drawing SS as well.

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The Trump era ends only when Trump has passed away. (And no, I'm not wishing for him to die, merely a statement of fact.)

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This is true. The legacy media won't be able to quit him.

Their entire existence, and 98% of the Democrat campaign strategy is based on bashing Trump.

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I don't know man, imagine an actual true hardcore conservative like Vance or Desantis getting in there and really giving them the finger while taking a sledgehammer to their sh**. Like Desantis did with massive success in Florida. Trump is basically Bill CLinton 2.0. He's just easy to hate because of all of the petulant commentary and behavior from him. If a real conservative ever gets in there and really starts having an impact, I could see Trump eventually getting the type of treatment W Bush does nowadays fromt he left. They like to pretend they didn;t hate his guts with a religious fervor now that they are distracted by the new "bogeyman".

Not saying it will happen, or that it is at all likely, just saying, I could see it. These people are fake AF.

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Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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No one who voted for Trump will ever wish they had voted for Hillary or Kamala instead.

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Agreed. But many will be embarrassed they supported Trump though.

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In the primary? Maybe. No one will be embarrassed considering the alternative though.

ETA - if anything the dems should be embarrassed. They had a golden opportunity to be seen as a sane alternative. Instead they spent 2+ years trying to shut down the country over a flu, celebrating rioters who were rioting over a felon's death, joining forces with Hamas, hyperventilating over every dumb thing he said, and generally putting forward lunatic candidates like Talarico who can't even tell you what a woman is.

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Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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No one who voted for Trump will ever wish they had voted for Hillary or Kamala instead.

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Agreed. But many will be embarrassed they supported Trump though.

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LOL No way. You vote for people who think men can get pregnant and "chest feed". In ideological and philosophical lockstep with the "queers for Palestine" brigade...lol must be proud.

No one is going to be embarrassed that they voted for Trump over that. Although I suspect you'll keep doubling down on this claim just to have the last word.

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Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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No one who voted for Trump will ever wish they had voted for Hillary or Kamala instead.

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Agreed. But many will be embarrassed they supported Trump though.

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LOL No way. You vote for people who think men can get pregnant and "chest feed". No one is going to be embarrassed that they voted for Trump over that. Although I suspect you'll keep doubling down on thie statement just to have the last word.

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In 10 years few people will remember the culture wars. Heck, they are not as prevalent now as much as the right insists on making them a top issue.

What they will remember though, is that Trump was an imbecile and his support came largely from the undereducated, angry, working class populace.

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Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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No one who voted for Trump will ever wish they had voted for Hillary or Kamala instead.

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Agreed. But many will be embarrassed they supported Trump though.

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LOL No way. You vote for people who think men can get pregnant and "chest feed". No one is going to be embarrassed that they voted for Trump over that. Although I suspect you'll keep doubling down on thie statement just to have the last word.

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In 10 years few people will remember the culture wars. Heck, they are not as prevalent now as much as the right insists on making them a top issue.

What they will remember though, is that Trump was an imbecile and his support came largely from the undereducated, angry, working class populace.

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This is an American hating position. Keep selling this nonsense.

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Their saving grace, which we're already seeing evidence of within this thread, will be "Sure, I kissed the iimbecile's ass, but it was only to keep those evil leftistists away from power". In 10 years even those statements will be rare and the Trump era will be seen quite negatively.

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No one who voted for Trump will ever wish they had voted for Hillary or Kamala instead.

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Agreed. But many will be embarrassed they supported Trump though.

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LOL No way. You vote for people who think men can get pregnant and "chest feed". No one is going to be embarrassed that they voted for Trump over that. Although I suspect you'll keep doubling down on thie statement just to have the last word.

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In 10 years few people will remember the culture wars. Heck, they are not as prevalent now as much as the right insists on making them a top issue.

What they will remember though, is that Trump was an imbecile and his support came largely from the undereducated, angry, working class populace.

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Dead ass wrong, again. Cultural and societal issues and trends are almost all anyone on the right care about. None of my conservative friends really focus on the fiscal stuff anymore if I am being honest.

The vast majority of conservatives just want a recognizable world for their children. "Culture wars" are why so many in the RGV flipped red for Trump...which no one ever thought was possible. You think it was Trump's "fiscal policy" that did it? No, it was the open degeneracy and insanity constantly on display from the left.

But every single leftists I know of likes to pretend the "culture wars" stuff is played out. From where I stand, it seems like a coping mechanism...you WISH your party wasn't as insane as they are and you are trying to convince everyone else that this is the case. But we have eyes and ears and functioning brains and can see that your party is just as crazy as they ever were, if not more.

This post is a surprise.

Trump has CORNERED the market when it comes to owning the libs. Nobody does it better than him. If owning the libs is your thing ( it is for most folks here) then it can't get any better than Trump.

Are you tired of owning the libs? Do you want more peaceful times? Trump can still swing 500 mph and he's landing head shots on a daily basis.

The Trump era won't end once he's no longer president. He will continue to run the party rather than stand back. And he will want to pick his successor(s).