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As SpaceX, and Musk, are now wealthier than most of the world's governments, yet SpaceX is publicly traded, it will be quite interesting to see how long it takes for SpaceX to abandon its purely altruistic bluster. While colonization of Mars is a useful R&D project because of the science that will be done, it is a total boondoggle of a business venture, one that shareholders of any Fortune 500 company wouldn't tolerate. StarLink is the cash cow here. How long will they be able to fool investors into something that won't happen for generations, if ever, and even if it does, will be a proof-of-concept?

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One thing I don't understand here.

Why do we want to go to Mars?

1. Just for fun to see if we can do it
2. To get raw materials/minerals that we are in short supply of on Earth
3. To get future H1Bs visas for Mars in case we get overrun by foreigners who will steal all our jobs so we can be the first to steal Martian jobs before the Indians do.

Why? What is the business case? Is this going to make money?

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He isn't doing it to make money. He's doing it because he truly believes that for humans to remain in existence we have to become a multi-planetary species in order to survive. If something happens here on earth, there is a second option. At least that is what he proclaims.

I also think he's just a generationally unique individual that has the foresight, intellect, ambition, and the means to achieve big things. Things that the ordinary person cannot even comprehend, much less attempt. He has a vision and he is going after it. I think everything else he is doing is a means to that end. He needs money to fund his dream, and he's exceptionally gifted and talented in his ability to figure out ways to generate revenue in ways that also forward and benefit his ultimate goal.

Enjoy the view. We may never see another one like him in our lifetime.

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He is the only tech rockstar we have today who has a following. It used to be Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. One is dead, other is retired.

Dude is just 54. Just imagine what else he will do, he seems healthy enough. Steve Jobs died at 55 which seems surprising now.

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The sooner he can download his brain into an Optimus robot the better.

He's got Optimus going, AI, Neurolink... that's obviously where he's going right?

TexAgs91 said:

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infinity ag said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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infinity ag said:

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94chem said:

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As SpaceX, and Musk, are now wealthier than most of the world's governments, yet SpaceX is publicly traded, it will be quite interesting to see how long it takes for SpaceX to abandon its purely altruistic bluster. While colonization of Mars is a useful R&D project because of the science that will be done, it is a total boondoggle of a business venture, one that shareholders of any Fortune 500 company wouldn't tolerate. StarLink is the cash cow here. How long will they be able to fool investors into something that won't happen for generations, if ever, and even if it does, will be a proof-of-concept?

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One thing I don't understand here.

Why do we want to go to Mars?

1. Just for fun to see if we can do it
2. To get raw materials/minerals that we are in short supply of on Earth
3. To get future H1Bs visas for Mars in case we get overrun by foreigners who will steal all our jobs so we can be the first to steal Martian jobs before the Indians do.

Why? What is the business case? Is this going to make money?

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He isn't doing it to make money. He's doing it because he truly believes that for humans to remain in existence we have to become a multi-planetary species in order to survive. If something happens here on earth, there is a second option. At least that is what he proclaims.

I also think he's just a generationally unique individual that has the foresight, intellect, ambition, and the means to achieve big things. Things that the ordinary person cannot even comprehend, much less attempt. He has a vision and he is going after it. I think everything else he is doing is a means to that end. He needs money to fund his dream, and he's exceptionally gifted and talented in his ability to figure out ways to generate revenue in ways that also forward and benefit his ultimate goal.

Enjoy the view. We may never see another one like him in our lifetime.

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He is the only tech rockstar we have today who has a following. It used to be Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. One is dead, other is retired.

Dude is just 54. Just imagine what else he will do, he seems healthy enough. Steve Jobs died at 55 which seems surprising now.

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The sooner he can download his brain into an Optimus robot the better.

He's got Optimus going, AI, Neurolink... that's obviously where he's going right?

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I have a legitimate business idea for him for more revenue generation from his Space X. I really gotta hit him up some day.

The only thing I want out of it is to be the first customer - and maybe toss me a freebie for the concept.

TexAgs91 said:

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infinity ag said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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infinity ag said:

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94chem said:

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As SpaceX, and Musk, are now wealthier than most of the world's governments, yet SpaceX is publicly traded, it will be quite interesting to see how long it takes for SpaceX to abandon its purely altruistic bluster. While colonization of Mars is a useful R&D project because of the science that will be done, it is a total boondoggle of a business venture, one that shareholders of any Fortune 500 company wouldn't tolerate. StarLink is the cash cow here. How long will they be able to fool investors into something that won't happen for generations, if ever, and even if it does, will be a proof-of-concept?

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One thing I don't understand here.

Why do we want to go to Mars?

1. Just for fun to see if we can do it
2. To get raw materials/minerals that we are in short supply of on Earth
3. To get future H1Bs visas for Mars in case we get overrun by foreigners who will steal all our jobs so we can be the first to steal Martian jobs before the Indians do.

Why? What is the business case? Is this going to make money?

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He isn't doing it to make money. He's doing it because he truly believes that for humans to remain in existence we have to become a multi-planetary species in order to survive. If something happens here on earth, there is a second option. At least that is what he proclaims.

I also think he's just a generationally unique individual that has the foresight, intellect, ambition, and the means to achieve big things. Things that the ordinary person cannot even comprehend, much less attempt. He has a vision and he is going after it. I think everything else he is doing is a means to that end. He needs money to fund his dream, and he's exceptionally gifted and talented in his ability to figure out ways to generate revenue in ways that also forward and benefit his ultimate goal.

Enjoy the view. We may never see another one like him in our lifetime.

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He is the only tech rockstar we have today who has a following. It used to be Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. One is dead, other is retired.

Dude is just 54. Just imagine what else he will do, he seems healthy enough. Steve Jobs died at 55 which seems surprising now.

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The sooner he can download his brain into an Optimus robot the better.

He's got Optimus going, AI, Neurolink... that's obviously where he's going right?

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Optimus and Neurolink are NOT a part of the SpaceX family... Correct?

Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

Not yet. There is interest in merging SPCX and TSLA though. xAI is part of the former and it's not unrealistic to see the synergies imho. There are innumerable speculative editorials about this, and supportive comments from Elon over the past year or so.

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Musk generating another big ass tax bill. Exercised 18 months (I believe) before expiration. Interesting timing.

Yesterday, Elon Musk exercised 304 million @Tesla stock options from his 2018 compensation package, according to a new SEC filing.

Tesla withheld 17.53 million shares at an average price of $404.66/share in connection with net share settlement. The transaction did not involve… pic.twitter.com/FkUijzWLSy

— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) June 17, 2026

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How do these ultra rich people buy and sell? Do they have a dumb old Schwab account like I do? Or something else?

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Blue horseshoe loves andecot steal

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TexAgs91 said:

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infinity ag said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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infinity ag said:

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94chem said:

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As SpaceX, and Musk, are now wealthier than most of the world's governments, yet SpaceX is publicly traded, it will be quite interesting to see how long it takes for SpaceX to abandon its purely altruistic bluster. While colonization of Mars is a useful R&D project because of the science that will be done, it is a total boondoggle of a business venture, one that shareholders of any Fortune 500 company wouldn't tolerate. StarLink is the cash cow here. How long will they be able to fool investors into something that won't happen for generations, if ever, and even if it does, will be a proof-of-concept?

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One thing I don't understand here.

Why do we want to go to Mars?

1. Just for fun to see if we can do it
2. To get raw materials/minerals that we are in short supply of on Earth
3. To get future H1Bs visas for Mars in case we get overrun by foreigners who will steal all our jobs so we can be the first to steal Martian jobs before the Indians do.

Why? What is the business case? Is this going to make money?

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He isn't doing it to make money. He's doing it because he truly believes that for humans to remain in existence we have to become a multi-planetary species in order to survive. If something happens here on earth, there is a second option. At least that is what he proclaims.

I also think he's just a generationally unique individual that has the foresight, intellect, ambition, and the means to achieve big things. Things that the ordinary person cannot even comprehend, much less attempt. He has a vision and he is going after it. I think everything else he is doing is a means to that end. He needs money to fund his dream, and he's exceptionally gifted and talented in his ability to figure out ways to generate revenue in ways that also forward and benefit his ultimate goal.

Enjoy the view. We may never see another one like him in our lifetime.

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He is the only tech rockstar we have today who has a following. It used to be Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. One is dead, other is retired.

Dude is just 54. Just imagine what else he will do, he seems healthy enough. Steve Jobs died at 55 which seems surprising now.

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The sooner he can download his brain into an Optimus robot the better.

He's got Optimus going, AI, Neurolink... that's obviously where he's going right?

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Optimus and Neurolink are NOT a part of the SpaceX family... Correct?

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Not yet. But Elon's planning on Starship flying to mars with a crew of Optimus robots.

Elon Musk is a national icon. His purchase of Twitter has been the greatest boost for free speech in the modern social media era. More than 4,400 current and former SpaceX employees have become millionaires under Elon Musk.

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The sooner he can download his brain into an Optimus robot the better.

He's got Optimus going, AI, Neurolink... that's obviously where he's going right?

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TexAgs91 said:

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infinity ag said:

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He is the only tech rockstar we have today who has a following. It used to be Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. One is dead, other is retired.

Dude is just 54. Just imagine what else he will do, he seems healthy enough. Steve Jobs died at 55 which seems surprising now.

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The sooner he can download his brain into an Optimus robot the better.

He's got Optimus going, AI, Neurolink... that's obviously where he's going right?

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I've seen it before.

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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Crickets..... But yet, 10 pages of adoration for the dude.


A trillion. That's 1,000 billionaires rolled into one.

So, while you and wife fight over dry wall repairs, you can simply hang an Elon poster over it and tell her you fixed it!

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BigFred said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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Crickets..... But yet, 10 pages of adoration for the dude.

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so a person can't be admired unless you go work for them?

Weird post

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Getting off on another man's success if very weird.

But Im old school like that.

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BMX Bandit said:

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BigFred said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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Crickets..... But yet, 10 pages of adoration for the dude.

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so a person can't be admired unless you go work for them?

Weird post

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Getting off on another man's success if very weird.

But Im old school like that.

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old school meaning can't admire or praise or simply acknowledge another persons success because you believe it makes you smaller (in your wife's eyes particularly) is the kind of old school misogynistic mentality that should have died 25 year ago. but you are apparently keeping it alive and well. your every post here reeks of little man syndrome.

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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I've heard second or third-hand stories of extremely long hours and lots of pressure to get things working, especially from around ten years ago when SpaceX was trying to prove itself.

And those who stuck around just got their payout.

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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I've heard second or third-hand stories of extremely long hours and lots of pressure to get things working, especially from around ten years ago when SpaceX was trying to prove itself.

And those who stuck around just got their payout.

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Pretty typical of any startup though. I've done it. I threw in the towel at end of year 3 because I was just too worn out to continue and wanted to be retired. I took my equity and walked.

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torrid said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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I've heard second or third-hand stories of extremely long hours and lots of pressure to get things working, especially from around ten years ago when SpaceX was trying to prove itself.

And those who stuck around just got their payout.

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Pretty typical of any startup though. I've done it. I threw in the towel at end of year 3 because I was just too worn out to continue and wanted to be retired. I took my equity and walked.

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Story I "heard". The key being several generations by the time I heard it.

Elon was at one of his companies, either SpaceX or Tesla, while it was still heavily in the startup phase. A new-hire junior engineer was on the floor doing something.

Though not incompetent, he froze and gave a bad answer when the big boss asked him something. Musk told the managers to fire him. They told the junior engineer to go hide in the cafeteria the rest of the day.

A few months later Elon visited again, and there was the same kid engineer. Not only was he finally fired that day, so were a few other people.

So the story goes.

torrid said:

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YouBet said:

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torrid said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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I've heard second or third-hand stories of extremely long hours and lots of pressure to get things working, especially from around ten years ago when SpaceX was trying to prove itself.

And those who stuck around just got their payout.

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Pretty typical of any startup though. I've done it. I threw in the towel at end of year 3 because I was just too worn out to continue and wanted to be retired. I took my equity and walked.

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Story I "heard". The key being several generations by the time I heard it.

Elon was at one of his companies, either SpaceX or Tesla, while it was still heavily in the startup phase. A new-hire junior engineer was on the floor doing something.

Though not incompetent, he froze and gave a bad answer when the big boss asked him something. Musk told the managers to fire him. They told the junior engineer to go hide in the cafeteria the rest of the day.

A few months later Elon visited again, and there was the same kid engineer. Not only was he finally fired that day, so were a few other people.

So the story goes.

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Not saying that didn't happen...
But it doesn't necessarily jive with the accounts in Eric Berger's book, "Liftoff"

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Even weirder post.


being jealous of another man's success is communist.


But I'm a capitalist like that.

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Well played

BigFred said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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BigFred said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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Crickets..... But yet, 10 pages of adoration for the dude.

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so a person can't be admired unless you go work for them?

Weird post

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Getting off on another man's success if very weird.

But Im old school like that.

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It is very much weird to think it's weird to enjoy someone else's success. That's not even old school, it's just anti-social.

hph6203 said:

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BigFred said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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BigFred said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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Crickets..... But yet, 10 pages of adoration for the dude.

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so a person can't be admired unless you go work for them?

Weird post

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Getting off on another man's success if very weird.

But Im old school like that.

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It is very much weird to think it's weird to enjoy someone else's success. That's not even old school, it's just anti-social.

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It's old school alright. As old as the Bolsheviks.

BigFred said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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Crickets..... But yet, 10 pages of adoration for the dude.


A trillion. That's 1,000 billionaires rolled into one.

So, while you and wife fight over dry wall repairs, you can simply hang an Elon poster over it and tell her you fixed it!

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You worked for Biden?
Kamala?
Beto?
Talafreek?

Bizarre post.

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Even weirder post.


being jealous of another man's success is communist.


But I'm a capitalist like that.

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There are some people that celebrate success. These are the people you should surround yourself with
There are others that envy it, and it absolutely corrodes and burns them on the inside. These are the folks that are toxic. Stay away from them. They have no redeeming qualities.

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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I know two people that do.
I think the irony is that most people who work for Elon (at least SpaceX) don't care that much about money. They are super smart, uber nerds, who absolutely LOVE their work and are EXTERMELY good at it. Like Top 0.1% good at it. I think you have to be because Elon and SpaceX are extrremely demanding.

No idea if tesla is the same way, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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I know two people that do.
I think the irony is that most people who work for Elon (at least SpaceX) don't care that much about money. They are super smart, uber nerds, who absolutely LOVE their work and are EXTERMELY good at it. Like Top 0.1% good at it. I think you have to be because Elon and SpaceX are extrremely demanding.

No idea if tesla is the same way, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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So you're saying the Grimes County locals might be right that none of them are good enough for the jobs that TerraFab will bring

BigFred said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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BigFred said:

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infinity ag said:

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Any Ag on this board working for Elon?

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Crickets..... But yet, 10 pages of adoration for the dude.

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so a person can't be admired unless you go work for them?

Weird post

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Getting off on another man's success if very weird.

But Im old school like that.

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I don't think you know what "old school" actually is/was.


Old school: "Damn man, what he did is incredible. How can I get a piece of that? Anything is possible in this country, im gonna work my ass off to improve myself and my financial position. He's also raised up thousands of people and changed the world in incredible ways. What a success story! That man is a badass who is worth emulating. I don't worship him, but I want to be like him and in this country it's possible to kick ass."

Modern approach: "Damn man, f that guy. Rich ******* provides nothing to society except for being just another rich jerk who I despise because of his success. POS doesnt deserve to have more money than I do. I'll never accomplish anything, so im gonna give up and focus on jealousy, anger, and resentment of those who win in life instead of striving to make my situation better. Everything bad in my life is rich people's fault, and since Musk is the richest, he's the worst of them all. Why would anyone support that?!?! *******s should have everything taken from them so we can be equals. I'm also going to hate anyone who likes and wants to be successful like that undeserving fraud."


Sorry my friend, but you are literally the opposite of old school. Your attitude is as modern as it gets.


Adam Carolla said it simply and accurately a while back:

"It's horrible. It's envy that has turned into resentment that's turned into anger and essentially shame. It's a pretty simple psycho dynamic, which is, 'I wish I had that guy's expensive car, good looking wife, big house,' whatever it is. Then the next feeling is shame. 'Because I can't do it. I'm not smart enough. I don't work hard enough.' And then turns to anger. 'I'm going to throw a rock at that guy's car or his wife's fake boobies or whatever it is I can hit.' And it used to be the other way around. You would see a guy in a nice car and you would go, 'Hey, son, if you work real hard you can get a nice car like Mr. Jenkins,' now it's all out the window. And it's the fault of the wealthy as well because they're not even acting wealthy. Mark Cuban walks around in cargo shorts and flip-flops and a t-shirt," Carolla said.

No you are just jealous because you will have had no major impact on mankind or a minor one when you pass away.

I don't think it gets more old school than my response to him. Envy is one of the seven sins and is biblical era teaching.

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No you are just jealous because you will have had no major impact on mankind or a minor one when you pass away.

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Lmao got em

AggieVictor10 said:

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The Unforgiven said:

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No you are just jealous because you will have had no major impact on mankind or a minor one when you pass away.

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Lmao got em

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Feeling left out...?

It's like the playa hatas ball skit from Chappelle.
"Man I hate you cause you got a nice car and I dont even have car".
Stupid stuff like that.

It's sad, but its telling of the age we live in.