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Says the guy who saw some cars on the pool and tried to tell us how durable it was lol.
not sure you understand anything about what happened here.AxelFoley85 said:
Says the guy who saw some cars on the pool and tried to tell us how durable it was lol.
Attributing it to the motorcade and durability then it's about adhesion of layers and curing and the underlying expansion joints.
Did you somehow think that owns me? Okay little buddy, okay. You win.
Correction said:ArbAg said:Correction said:Dallas82 said:
1. Will Trump admit the guys he handed $14 million in a no-bid contract didn't know what they were doing? 2. Will he demand they pay us back for the shoddy work?
3. Is he still paying them tax dollars to fix the damage they caused?
4. What assurances do we have that they will do it properly this time?
5. Why are we paying them at all?
6. Will Trump apologize for calling this guy a vandal?
7. Will he admit his claims of 900 foot knife cuts was less than true?
8. Will he fire the person who told him that or admit he made it up?
1. No, they did the most perfect job ever, like nothing you've ever seen. No other POTUS could have ever made it happen.
2. See No. 1
3. Almost certainly, but only to fix the vandalism he will continue to insist occurred.
4. None whatsoever.
5. Who's gonna stop him?
6. He'd rather eat a bowl of glass.
7. See No. 6
8. If anyone gets fired, it will be whoever filed the motion to dismiss for contradicting him.
Of course, the immediate answer is to say it was Trump's fault and we should have continued to follow the dem's plan let the national mall become a sewer and national embarrassment. What was he possibly thinking by trying to improve Washington?
This is just a collection of words, haphazardly thrown together, bearing little relevance to the quoted post.
Yeah sure…
No one is faulting Trump for wanting to fix it. The fault was in trying to rush it and making fun of others who tried to fix it. You can have cheap, fast, or good: pick any two.
Personally, I think it's a flawed design and will be a continual problem for years to come.
Personally, I think it's a flawed design and will be a continual problem for years to come.
Typical Trump
Overstate what's possible, not meet that ridiculous expectation, blame everyone else and then have your puppets preach about what you "really meant" when you set the ridiculous expectation.
Doesn't matter if it's a reflecting pool or an "obliterated" nuclear program, it's the same playbook.
Overstate what's possible, not meet that ridiculous expectation, blame everyone else and then have your puppets preach about what you "really meant" when you set the ridiculous expectation.
Doesn't matter if it's a reflecting pool or an "obliterated" nuclear program, it's the same playbook.
Don't forget the no-bid contracts to unqualified contractors at over 10x the initial estimates. Oh and the fact that one of the Contractors, the one responsible for the failed algae system, just happens to be a longtime donor and previously plead guilty to bribery.
There are only two contractors on the east coast capable of doing the coating. One was the general, the other was the sub. If you read the motion to dismiss, the problems were the result of rushing the job, overspray, and weather. Hopefully when they redo it, at their cost I hope, it's done right.
You think the company is going to do it under warranty or under a claim of faulty work when POTUS is claiming it isn't their fault?
HTownAg98 said:
No one is faulting Trump for wanting to fix it. The fault was in trying to rush it and making fun of others who tried to fix it. You can have cheap, fast, or good: pick any two.
Personally, I think it's a flawed design and will be a continual problem for years to come.
Agree. Any body of water will go through seasonal changes. A very large very shallow freshwater pool?mIght as well as put koi and water lillies in it.
aggiegolfer2012 said:
You think the company is going to do it under warranty or under a claim of faulty work when POTUS is claiming it isn't their fault?
Yes, this is almost certainly what will happen.
They may get some reprieve if there was a waiver signed by DOI saying they accept the timelines for curing and such are not compatible with the overall deadline and that project owner assumes risk.
You can ***** at Trump if they did that. Else, its on the contractor. BTW - the material supplier has some skin in rhis and they had been highlighting this as a feather in their hat. They will be ensuring they do their part. And they will be in no mood to play finger-pointing on the installer. Not wben they were onsite the whole time.
I never would have imagined it would turn out like this.
Now back to the stolen election evidence and the war we won 19 weeks ago.
Now back to the stolen election evidence and the war we won 19 weeks ago.
man liberals so desperate for any type of win is hilarious.... Do Dems and Libs know how much they are hated by the average person?
HaroldShipmanAg said:
man liberals so desperate for any type of win is hilarious.... Do Dems and Libs know how much they are hated by the average person?
They believe any attention is popularity and validation, even if that attention is in the form of disgust, disdain, disapproval and general assessment of dip****tedness.
All attention is good.
Its why they have such intense jealousy of the attention Trump gets. Drives them nuts.
HaroldShipmanAg said:
man liberals so desperate for any type of win is hilarious.... Do Dems and Libs know how much they are hated by the average person?
But the pool was botched! Yeah no other president messed with it and it looked great for America's 250th. But it was botched, man! We shoulda elected Kamalala!
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
techno-ag said:HaroldShipmanAg said:
man liberals so desperate for any type of win is hilarious.... Do Dems and Libs know how much they are hated by the average person?
But the pool was botched! Yeah no other president messed with it and it looked great for America's 250th. But it was botched, man! We shoulda elected Kamalala!
anyone who is on the left or progressive I really have zero respect for and question their intelligence.
It would be nice to join forces again with other conservatives that could admit fault and work as a team. Someday, perhaps. But we'll need a leader that's an adult.
Scratch that. Admitting fault isn't required.
Lets just start with not firing your bull**** cannon at the people. Some of us are smarter than that.
Lets just start with not firing your bull**** cannon at the people. Some of us are smarter than that.
Nom de Plume said:
It would be nice to join forces again with other conservatives that could admit fault and work as a team. Someday, perhaps. But we'll need a leader that's an adult.
Eh. Establishment Republicans are the worst. They kick their own to the curb at the first sign of trouble. They're always afraid of losing invitations to parties in DC and the big papers writing mean headlines about them.
That's why Trump has been so refreshing and they can't understand why regular people love him so much.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Yeah, if the far left and far right aren't sewing discord they're not even trying!
That's definitely the answer.
That's definitely the answer.
bobbranco said:zag213004 said:jt2hunt said:
So many people have Tds on this thread. Ostriches when facts are presented.
Facts? Like the material properties of the liner if it was applied correctly.
Hardness: shore-D 60. A golf ball hardness is 50, a caster wheel is 60, a hard hat is 80
Tensile strength: 3200 psi like a nitrile NBR. Very strong for elastomer used in many oil and gas well completion applications (o-rings)
Tear resistance die C: 600 pli. Tear resistance of a poly urethane skateboard wheel
Impact resistance: 160 in/lbs tough polymer vs brittle. A heavy duty floor epoxy
Yeah Trump and maga lemmings don't care about these facts because that would mean that vandals couldn't have cut a slit in the liner and the fact that it was the no bid contractor that did ****ty work
Anybody who is familiar with concrete coatings realizes all the characteristics listed have nothing to do with surface preparation and adhesion to concrete. You should leave the coating evaluation to the experts. A host of reasons could be applicators fault, defective material, improper mixing, environmental conditions, etc.
Also, this coating is not permanent will fail and require maintenance. As well as the expansion joints that will fail.
Thanks for proving my point. ****ty job will lead to ****ty results. It wasn't vandals. had the material been applied properly It would've performed as advertised . The mechanical properties help to quantify how robust of a material this really is (or really any material for that matter) assuming it is applied/procured properly. I may not have achieved my doctorate in rhino liner pipe liner 5000 but I have enough knowledge to know this notion that it was damaged by vandals is ridiculous. But yes, continue to perpetuate the lies from engineering professor Trump.
I suspect that if someone would have the strength to rip up the liner with their hands, they would have better things to do.
Like wrestling elephants.
Like wrestling elephants.
Nom de Plume said:
I never would have imagined it would turn out like this.
Now back to the stolen election evidence and the war we won 19 weeks ago.
Don't be ridiculous, Trump only lies about immaterial stuff like restoration projects and crowd sizes, he would NEVER lie about anything as important as an election or a war.
At the end of the day, all is well that ends well. DJY may have his faults, but he is 1000x better than Biden and Kamala.
zag213004 said:bobbranco said:zag213004 said:jt2hunt said:
So many people have Tds on this thread. Ostriches when facts are presented.
Facts? Like the material properties of the liner if it was applied correctly.
Hardness: shore-D 60. A golf ball hardness is 50, a caster wheel is 60, a hard hat is 80
Tensile strength: 3200 psi like a nitrile NBR. Very strong for elastomer used in many oil and gas well completion applications (o-rings)
Tear resistance die C: 600 pli. Tear resistance of a poly urethane skateboard wheel
Impact resistance: 160 in/lbs tough polymer vs brittle. A heavy duty floor epoxy
Yeah Trump and maga lemmings don't care about these facts because that would mean that vandals couldn't have cut a slit in the liner and the fact that it was the no bid contractor that did ****ty work
Anybody who is familiar with concrete coatings realizes all the characteristics listed have nothing to do with surface preparation and adhesion to concrete. You should leave the coating evaluation to the experts. A host of reasons could be applicators fault, defective material, improper mixing, environmental conditions, etc.
Also, this coating is not permanent will fail and require maintenance. As well as the expansion joints that will fail.
Thanks for proving my point. ****ty job will lead to ****ty results. It wasn't vandals. had the material been applied properly It would've performed as advertised . The mechanical properties help to quantify how robust of a material this really is (or really any material for that matter) assuming it is applied/procured properly. I may not have achieved my doctorate in rhino liner pipe liner 5000 but I have enough knowledge to know this notion that it was damaged by vandals is ridiculous. But yes, continue to perpetuate the lies from engineering professor Trump.
I don't think this is accurate. There indeed appears to be some damage caused by vandals. That damage is not associated with the canoeist. The canoeist appear to take an existing delamination and pull on it. Whether he further damaged it or not is indeterminable and regardless needs to be repaired. The is what Pirro said.
Even though its been pointed out over and over again, there are a lot of conflated issues. You are not going to be able to tie this into a "Trump is an immoral incompetent self-dealing grafting orange man bad baboon and this proves" pretzel no matter how many times you twist it.
Best to quit whilst you are not quite at the bottom.
aggiegolfer2012 said:
Typical Trump
Overstate what's possible, not meet that ridiculous expectation, blame everyone else and then have your puppets preach about what you "really meant" when you set the ridiculous expectation.
Doesn't matter if it's a reflecting pool or an "obliterated" nuclear program, it's the same playbook.
What can we believe? Perhaps he thought it was vandals, perhaps he thought we had a deal with Iran or Hamas or ? Under promise and over deliver or over promise and seldom deliver.
zag213004 said:bobbranco said:zag213004 said:jt2hunt said:
So many people have Tds on this thread. Ostriches when facts are presented.
Facts? Like the material properties of the liner if it was applied correctly.
Hardness: shore-D 60. A golf ball hardness is 50, a caster wheel is 60, a hard hat is 80
Tensile strength: 3200 psi like a nitrile NBR. Very strong for elastomer used in many oil and gas well completion applications (o-rings)
Tear resistance die C: 600 pli. Tear resistance of a poly urethane skateboard wheel
Impact resistance: 160 in/lbs tough polymer vs brittle. A heavy duty floor epoxy
Yeah Trump and maga lemmings don't care about these facts because that would mean that vandals couldn't have cut a slit in the liner and the fact that it was the no bid contractor that did ****ty work
Anybody who is familiar with concrete coatings realizes all the characteristics listed have nothing to do with surface preparation and adhesion to concrete. You should leave the coating evaluation to the experts. A host of reasons could be applicators fault, defective material, improper mixing, environmental conditions, etc.
Also, this coating is not permanent will fail and require maintenance. As well as the expansion joints that will fail.
Thanks for proving my point. ****ty job will lead to ****ty results. It wasn't vandals. had the material been applied properly It would've performed as advertised . The mechanical properties help to quantify how robust of a material this really is (or really any material for that matter) assuming it is applied/procured properly. I may not have achieved my doctorate in rhino liner pipe liner 5000 but I have enough knowledge to know this notion that it was damaged by vandals is ridiculous. But yes, continue to perpetuate the lies from engineering professor Trump.
LOL. It's the bond between the coating and the concrete. It is interesting that Sika refused to do the project because the schedule was too aggressive and the expansion joint conditions created difficulties. Sika was concerned about the expansion joints because the joints were incompatible with coatings. Those expansion joints were pointed out to be the flaw. And who created the flaw? Obama's contractor. Am I going to blame Obama? Nope.
Trump did not prep the surface, prime then apply the coating. Driving vehicles on the coating would not cause the damage noted in the motion to dismiss.
takes one to know onetechno-ag said:Is that why you ignore all those posts correcting you?Old McDonald said:there's nothing a narcissist hates more than accountabilityNew World Ag said:flown-the-coop said:
Trump not backing down. At the end of the day there are several conflated issues on the pool.
Anyone expecting Trump to respond other than as below has not been paying attention to DJT for the last decade.
God lobe him!
Of course. DJT never admits he was wrong and doubles down…every damn time. So predictable.
Facts be damned.
So, Burgum is 100% sticking to the original story despite his own department concluding this was a contractor screwup.
IMO, Pirro is screwed. "Begrudgingly dropped charges when presented with exculpatory evidence, leaving no other option" doesn't stand a chance in hell against "the boss was right, 100%,"
IMO, Pirro is screwed. "Begrudgingly dropped charges when presented with exculpatory evidence, leaving no other option" doesn't stand a chance in hell against "the boss was right, 100%,"
Seeing Trump attack Pirro is just the icing on this s**t cake. Even when someone in the admin does the right thing, she gets attacked by the fat guy. It's literally impossible for anyone in this admin to do the right thing without consequences.
Soso nikinombiki maaki dii.
So the Trump Administration halfassed something, image that.
Ag CPA said:
So the Trump Administration halfassed something, image that.
The cost wasnt half-assed
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flown-the-coop said:
At the same time, when the press blows up every little thing then it's hard to get to mad at Team Trump making molehills and mountains.
If the mean ol media would just let Trump get away with no bid contracts to shoddy contractors, his DoJ wouldn't have to charge innocent people with crimes!
Quite an admission on your part. I'm proud of you for being so honest.
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