YouBet said:
Im Gipper said:
You are completely correct on the parlance. But SupermachJM was talking about official numbers, not just an observation. So that is really the only classification out there given the census classifications on "race".
Well, it's wrong and needs to be corrected. We either need to just use race which would be three classifications or use ethnicities which would be a lot.
This hybrid classification system is flat wrong. It's also not consistently used. The CDC was/is (during Covid anyway) using classifications starting with Non-Hispanic, so in their system we had Non-Hispanic Asians which is patently absurd because it's suggests that we have Hispanic Asians.
I have never heard anyone in the United States refer to Indians as Asians in normal day to day conversation. But until they change the census, there isn't a great way to differentiate it statistically. I think I would put South Asian as the census category, as it would group India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and certain groups within Nepal as a race. East Asian would group the rest that are traditional considered Asian.
And I know it seems ridiculous, but there are Hispanic Asians according to the definition. There are scores of Asians who have been in Peru for multiple generations, for example. The Hispanic/Non-Hispanic category has been collected in US census data since 1980, so it isn't a new term. All it means is that you come from a Latin American country. Where it gets interesting is when one would stop being Hispanic under this definition. If two fully European-blooded Argentines move to the US, they would undoubtedly consider themselves Hispanic. Their children probably would as well. But the next generation (if they happened to marry another White 3rd generation Argentine)? They would be so separated from the culture at that point, that it would likely drop off. Same goes for Blacks from the Dominican Republic, Cuba, and other parts of Latin America. I would assume that most stereotypically "Hispanic-looking Hispanics" (mixture of European and Indigenous/Native blood) would likely continue to consider themselves Hispanic for endless generations, though. But we can't even use the mixture of Euro and Indigenous to call that a new race, because most Puerto Ricans don't have a ton of Native blood and "Hispanic-looking" ones are mostly a mix of Euro combined with touches of Black (and some Taino). It gets complicated when trying to define a race. And I'm not some progressive. I understand where you are coming from.
