Aggie Dad Sip said:

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inconvenient truth said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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Nice obfuscation. There's a whole helluva lot of difference between the subjectivity of comparing one guitarist's talent against another vs down marking a world renowned guitarist because he dare speak against the dogma of the church of branch covidian. But I'm not surprised that's beyond your ability to grasp.

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Read my posts. Yes, it's dumb to rank artists based on perceived political slights. But it's even dumber to rank art at all. Know how I know that? Because y'all are getting all bent outta shape about a ranking of guitar players that in your opinion has nothing to do with playing guitar.

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Rolling Stone is a political rag and everyone knows it. Why do you care if we trash it?

And certainly not politics.

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Bulldog73 said:

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He said the vaccine injured him so Rolling Stone drops him 25 spots on the list of greatest guitarists. All violence doesn't just come from leftist guns.

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I think age had something to do with the drop, still an all time great.

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If the list is of greatest players of all time, you judge on the height of the career, not after diminished by age or disability….or death

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Yep.

Jimi and SRV aren't really good guitar players right now, are they?

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They are decomposing.

A thread about guitarists? This must be an off-hour Trump thread.

Also, aside from us Olds and Geriatrics, you guys do realize there's been half a century that have passed since most of the guitarists we're talking about were in their prime.

It's okay for the greats to be replaced. They did some replacing of others themselves as well.

That being said, if Hendrix, Steve Vai, and of Eddie aren't in the top of the list the list isn't worth crap.

No Spin Ag said:

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A thread about guitarists? This must be an off-hour Trump thread.

Also, aside from us Olds and Geriatrics, you guys do realize there's been half a century that have passed since most of the guitarists we're talking about were in their prime.

It's okay for the greats to be replaced. They did some replacing of others themselves as well.

That being said, if Hendrix, Steve Vai, and of Eddie aren't in the top of the list the list isn't worth crap.

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Steve Vai toured with Spinal Tap.

"Also, aside from us Olds and Geriatrics, you guys do realize there's been half a century that have passed since most of the guitarists we're talking about were in their prime."
I am one and fair point. But do they even make guitar rock anymore? I'm not aware of any.
I'll add Brian May.

Communists push their agenda. News at 11.

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Silent For Too Long said:

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There's subjectivity to it, sure, but it's not 100%. No one is claming random dumbass who plays backup for Taylor Swift as the best ever.

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I'm sure you're right, but even if they did, how do you know they're not right? Sometimes artists take the paycheck and who could blame them? But it doesn't mean that Tay Tay's rhythm guitar player isn't an amazing musician. We just haven't heard him.

Long story short, judging art is overwhelmingly based on taste and opinion.

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You invoked Taylor Swift and used her nickname in a discussion about great rock guitarists?

Ha!

Great reference.

A guitar player list that doesn't include George Lynch or Dave Mustaine is a total joke.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-guitarists-1234814010/jimi-hendrix-39-1234814182/

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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And I think it's Eddie Van Halen. My buddy who's forgotten more about rock music than I've ever known thinks it's Yngwie Malmsteen. Eric Clapton said it was Albert Lee. Eddie Van Halen said it was Allan Holdsworth. See where I'm going?

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Try not to fret over it.

this entire conversation strikes a discordant note with me.

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rednecked said:

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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And I think it's Eddie Van Halen. My buddy who's forgotten more about rock music than I've ever known thinks it's Yngwie Malmsteen. Eric Clapton said it was Albert Lee. Eddie Van Halen said it was Allan Holdsworth. See where I'm going?

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Try not to fret over it.

this entire conversation strikes a discordant note with me.

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I wish I could take credit for that second one.

Well done!

I didn't start this thread because I care deeply about where gutarists rank against each other (even though Slow Hand is indisputably among the top 5 for all right minded people). Nor to enter a discussion about the validity of ranking artists against each other. I did it because this is yet another example of the left crushing the human soul in its crusade to stamp out all dissent. Say what you will about the wisdom of the inherently subjective task of ranking artists on their merit, when Rolling Stone brings Covid statements into its rankings to cancel artists,it has lost the right to evaluate merit on any subject.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

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Rolling Stone thinks way more highly of themselves than they actually are. Their lists have become a complete joke.

IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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And I think it's Eddie Van Halen. My buddy who's forgotten more about rock music than I've ever known thinks it's Yngwie Malmsteen. Eric Clapton said it was Albert Lee. Eddie Van Halen said it was Allan Holdsworth. See where I'm going?

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Try not to fret over it.

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No need to take an insouciant tone!

PS - I share the pic to establish my SRV bona fides, but any list of great guitarists that doesn't have Edward VanHalen at or near the top is frankly ridiculous. Zappa himself once said EVH re-wrote the book on how rock guitar is played.

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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See Gilmour, David.

This article is already 2.5 years old. It was stupid then and it's stupid now. It's also stupid to bring it up 2.5 years after it was released and be mad about it like it's some new revelation.

David Gilmour at 28 is stupid. SRV at 20 is stupid. John Mayer at 61 is stupid. Listen to his more Blues-influenced and not mainstream pop songs, and he's an exceptionally talented guitar player.

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A thread about guitarists? This must be an off-hour Trump thread.

Also, aside from us Olds and Geriatrics, you guys do realize there's been half a century that have passed since most of the guitarists we're talking about were in their prime.

It's okay for the greats to be replaced. They did some replacing of others themselves as well.

That being said, if Hendrix, Steve Vai, and of Eddie aren't in the top of the list the list isn't worth crap.

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Good Lord; OF COURSE you'd find an angle to bring up Trump in your defense of the jab, even though he is, technically, the "David Koresh" for you Branch Covidians; y'all are just too programmed & cultish to realize it.

BUT, just for ****s & giggles, let's take THE LAST THIRTY YEARS of your "half a century" and name me THREE guitarist who have emerged as worthy of inclusion in "The Greatest List" who have done enough to "replace the greats"?

I've got "Billy Strings" as a potential candidate in a music industry dominated in the last thirty years by Rap, R&B, Pop, K-Pop, Country, & all things Taylor Swift.

Notice there's zero mention of "Rock", "Alternative/ Grunge" or "Heavy Mental" in the last thirty years, but you inferred the emergence of some worthy of replacing the greats, so who are they???

(BTW: If you say John Mayer, simply because he emerged in the last 30 years, you need to permaban yourself!!)

Joni Mitchell over SRV

Steve Vai not in the top 100, also behind Kurt Cobain. Give me a ****ing break.

Ag in Tiger Country said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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A thread about guitarists? This must be an off-hour Trump thread.

Also, aside from us Olds and Geriatrics, you guys do realize there's been half a century that have passed since most of the guitarists we're talking about were in their prime.

It's okay for the greats to be replaced. They did some replacing of others themselves as well.

That being said, if Hendrix, Steve Vai, and of Eddie aren't in the top of the list the list isn't worth crap.

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Good Lord; OF COURSE you'd find an angle to bring up Trump in your defense of the jab, even though he is, technically, the "David Koresh" for you Branch Covidians; y'all are just too programmed & cultish to realize it.

BUT, just for ****s & giggles, let's take THE LAST THIRTY YEARS of your "half a century" and name me THREE guitarist who have emerged as worthy of inclusion in "The Greatest List" who have done enough to "replace the greats"?

I've got "Billy Strings" as a potential candidate in a music industry dominated in the last thirty years by Rap, R&B, Pop, K-Pop, Country, & all things Taylor Swift.

Notice there's zero mention of "Rock", "Alternative/ Grunge" or "Heavy Mental" in the last thirty years, but you inferred the emergence of some worthy of replacing the greats, so who are they???

(BTW: If you say John Mayer, simply because he emerged in the last 30 years, you need to permaban yourself!!)

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A modern guitarist for you to actually check out is Tim Henson. Probably as talented as the greats, if not more.

Ag in Tiger Country said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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A thread about guitarists? This must be an off-hour Trump thread.

Also, aside from us Olds and Geriatrics, you guys do realize there's been half a century that have passed since most of the guitarists we're talking about were in their prime.

It's okay for the greats to be replaced. They did some replacing of others themselves as well.

That being said, if Hendrix, Steve Vai, and of Eddie aren't in the top of the list the list isn't worth crap.

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Good Lord; OF COURSE you'd find an angle to bring up Trump in your defense of the jab, even though he is, technically, the "David Koresh" for you Branch Covidians; y'all are just too programmed & cultish to realize it.

BUT, just for ****s & giggles, let's take THE LAST THIRTY YEARS of your "half a century" and name me THREE guitarist who have emerged as worthy of inclusion in "The Greatest List" who have done enough to "replace the greats"?

I've got "Billy Strings" as a potential candidate in a music industry dominated in the last thirty years by Rap, R&B, Pop, K-Pop, Country, & all things Taylor Swift.

Notice there's zero mention of "Rock", "Alternative/ Grunge" or "Heavy Mental" in the last thirty years, but you inferred the emergence of some worthy of replacing the greats, so who are they???

(BTW: If you say John Mayer, simply because he emerged in the last 30 years, you need to permaban yourself!!)

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Lol! I would never say John. Mayer. Ever.

I stopped listening to new music about a decade ago and stopped caring about guitarist once guitar solos stopped being what they were in the 80s.

That being said, I'm sure people who listen to all genres in the past 30 years could bring up names. I couldn't. I'm stuck in a music time stop.

Now if you happen to know of anyone on this side of 2000 worth listening to, I'd love to give them a try.

As for Trump, it seems that you do not frequent The Zoo, because off-season threads are a thing.

Off-season in politics, for me at least, is a time when Trump didn't do something to have the attention on him. In the context of this thread, it was used as a fun way to segue into the discussion.

My bad. I'll leave the levity at the door next time.

Tim Henson? Must be hard to play guitar with your hand up a Muppet's ass

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IIIHorn said:

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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And I think it's Eddie Van Halen. My buddy who's forgotten more about rock music than I've ever known thinks it's Yngwie Malmsteen. Eric Clapton said it was Albert Lee. Eddie Van Halen said it was Allan Holdsworth. See where I'm going?

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Try not to fret over it.

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No need to take an insouciant tone!

PS - I share the pic to establish my SRV bona fides, but any list of great guitarists that doesn't have Edward VanHalen at or near the top is frankly ridiculous. Zappa himself once said EVH re-wrote the book on how rock guitar is played.

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I see what you did there.

Great pics, btw.

As long as we can agree that Duane Allman's solo in "Hey Jude" by Wilson Pickett is the pinnacle of guitar, we're good fam

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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See Gilmour, David.

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Yessir …

David Gilmour vs. Eric Clapton is a tough pick.

Pink Floyd was a great band.

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As long as we can agree that Duane Allman's solo in "Hey Jude" by Wilson Pickett is the pinnacle of guitar, we're good fam

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Duane Allman is another favorite of mine.

Another Beatles reference:

Eric Clapton played the solo in "While My Guitar Gently Weeps".

It was unheard at the time, if not controversial, for a non-Beatle to provide a significant contribution to one of their recordings.

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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See Gilmour, David.

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Yessir …

David Gilmour vs. Eric Clapton is a tough pick.

Pink Floyd was a great band.

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It will be interesting to see which of today's artists are still selling like Pink Floyd in 45-50 years.

I won't see it. But it would be interesting.

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IIIHorn said:

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Squadron7 said:

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IIIHorn said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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You mean this Rolling Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

This is my shocked face that such a rag would demote one of the most brilliant guitarist of all time because he refused to buy into leftist propaganda.

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Here's the thing though, and there's really no way to get around it. How do you (or Rolling Stone) determine who the best guitar players are?

If you really think about it critically, it's an absolutely impossible exercise. Any ranking of artists is 100% subjective and therefore meaningless. If Rolling Stone ranks Clapton #35, Guitar Player ranks him #2, and Musician ranks him #12…who gives a rip?

But if someone ranks Clapton higher than Frank Zappa just because of politics, they're just as wrong as Rolling Stone.

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He is the greatest rock guitarist of all time.

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See Gilmour, David.

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Yessir …

David Gilmour vs. Eric Clapton is a tough pick.

Pink Floyd was a great band.

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It will be interesting to see which of today's artists are still selling like Pink Floyd in 45-50 years.

I won't see it. But it would be interesting.

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I agree.

Dark Side Of The Moon is the third greatest selling album of all time.

So you guys build your playlists by guitar player rankings instead of what you like listening to? No? So who gives a **** about the RS rankings unless you just like to argue?

I keep gettin' richer but I can't get my picher on the cover of the Rollin Stone

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So you guys build your playlists by guitar player rankings instead of what you like listening to? No? So who gives a **** about the RS rankings unless you just like to argue?

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"So you guys build your playlists by guitar player rankings instead of what you like listening to?"

No.

"So who gives a **** about the RS rankings unless you just like to argue?"

Yes.

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I've done some dumb stuff in my life but not getting that shot was one of the best decisions I've ever made.

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Yep, when the "health professionals" were so insistent upon my healthy, fit, 5mo pregnant wife getting the "vaccine" (even using the words "100% completely safe"...and "free") I knew that I would never let them inject me or anyone in our house. When the tyrannical government forced my company into threatening to fire people and i had to get a forged vaccine card to keep my job, that is when I became a zealot and lost a few "friends".

But having doctors and nurse practitioners look at us like we were crazy for refusing an experimental vaccine at 5mo pregnant was a wake up call. Especially considering that, at the time, they were not even recommending it for people UNDER THE AGE OF 16. But sure, I'm just going to expose my pregnant wife and the fetus inside of her to this completely unknown, experimental concoction.

Doctors and nurses looked completely dumbfounded when I mentioned that we had just recovered from Covid a few months prior and almost certainly had natural immunity and didn;t need or want a rushed vaccine.

CanyonAg77 said:

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I keep gettin' richer but I can't get my picher on the cover of the Rollin Stone

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Wanna buy five copies for my mother.