Silent For Too Long said:

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You do understand that fireworks had already been authorized for other things?

Drive around Fort Bend county on the 4th sometime. Or Christmas. Or New Years.

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Yeah, I corrected my post above...but still, why are we accommodating for "Diwali"...whatever the heck that is?

I think on the Houston board the issue was that a contingent of the Indian community got together at City hall or formed a petition in Fort Bend to try to ban fireworks outside of Diwali if I remember correctly. Citing noise and safety concerns.

Kind of hard to believe because who the hell would have the nerve...but if you give immigrants enough strength in numbers, all bets are off. Places like Frisco are unrecognizable.

PaulsBunions said:

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Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but Jesus is not THE son of god. Jesus is A way to heaven but not THE way to heaven. pic.twitter.com/WoXXLrI6Kd

— Lysander (@UnderCoercion) May 1, 2026

Posting more in the context that Vivek will probably win the Ohio Primary and put his foot in his mouth by saying this, I don't believe this statement does anything but hurt his case for Christian voters.

***God should be capitalized in the title, my fault for copying the quote from the tweet

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Every single religion in the world that already existed in some form changed their view of who God was the moment Jesus lived and died and rose from the dead. So Hinduism now includes Jesus as a God under the one true God.

Every new religion formed after Jesus's life incorporated him into their beliefs...think Islam - in this case they built many of their faith tenets and beliefs on Christianty and Judaism and included Jesus as a special prophet whose words were considered truth and scripture.

Jesus is such a powerful influence that all religions were forced to contend with him.

Vivek is great politically but he was somewhat deceptive in his proclamations regarding "god". He's trying to stay on the fence. The Hindu god is not the same as the God of Abraham - at least according to scripture. But I don't know.

I'd like to think he is a faithful and decent man, but these two are the same only in that they are both supreme omnipotent creators.

I also think it is inconsistent to say that Jesus is a son of god but not the son of God. Jesus proclaimed himself as the one and only Son of God.

All that said, he is preferable to me than a nihilistic atheist.

Hindu is a complete disqualifier for me.

They believe some really weird stuff.

And if you study closely the "gods" they worship, they are demons.

Hard pass, no matter the package it is presented in.

Someone could cherry pick from both the Old and New Testaments and reach unfavorable conclusions.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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We need more people that think like this. Unless the'yre scientologists or mormon

Perhaps you missed this, so I'll ask again;

cecil77 said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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That's pretty ignorant. Study Hinduism.

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Can you educate us on Ravana?

PaulsBunions said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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I don't think he'll be able to govern competently if he loses the election, and I don't think he'll win the election with statements like these.

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Most people who lose elections can't govern competently because they aren't governing anything in the first place.

Because they lost the election and are not in office.

cecil77 said:

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Someone could cherry pick from both the Old and New Testaments and reach unfavorable conclusions.

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I am sick of this american leftist attitude that always gives foreign people/cultures/religion the benefit of the doubt...always goaltends for them...while always being critical of the native prevailing people/culture/religion.

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Sims said:

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Ah I see, well, I'm glad he's being honest.

I just weight that higher than a candidate's ability to thread a rhetorical needle to avoid losing hypothetical identity politics votes.

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Well I guess we'll have to see how voters respond to this on election day. I was under the impression that saying Jesus Christ is not the way to heaven might annoy some Christians here.

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I don't vote for a politician on their religious beliefs, I vote on how they will govern.

YouBet said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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I don't think he'll be able to govern competently if he loses the election, and I don't think he'll win the election with statements like these.

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Most people who lose elections can't govern competently because they aren't governing anything in the first place.

Because they lost the election and are not in office.

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Hindu is a complete disqualifier for me.

They believe some really weird stuff.

And if you study closely the "gods" they worship, they are demons.

Hard pass, no matter the package it is presented in.

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What a ridiculous and dumb thing to say.

Your god is good but someone else's god is a demon? Typical intolerant stuff that I hate these religious nutjobs for and which has caused wars ever since religion became a thing.

Queso1 said:

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Vivek is great politically but he was somewhat deceptive in his proclamations regarding "god". He's trying to stay on the fence. The Hindu god is not the same as the God of Abraham - at least according to scripture. But I don't know.

I'd like to think he is a faithful and decent man, but these two are the same only in that they are both supreme omnipotent creators.

I also think it is inconsistent to say that Jesus is a son of god but not the son of God. Jesus proclaimed himself as the one and only Son of God.

All that said, he is preferable to me than a nihilistic atheist.

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I think Vivek should sit this one out. He won't win or make anyone happy. Lose-lose for him.


Highly intellectual people have a tendency to shoot their mouths off (like Elon) and not realize that they aren't in their living room, they are being filmed and they are at risk either way/.

Im Gipper said:

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That's weird a Hindu guy doesn't believe Jesus is God!


What should he have said?

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"Dank you come again!" -Apu

Colonel Kurtz said:

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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Vivek probably thinks you worship demons too, but he will be too polite to tell you to your face.

No religion worships "demons". All religions that I have studied have the concept of good and bad and "demons" are on the bad side and have to be destroyed.

But your pastor gave you wrong information because he needs you in his flock and to keep paying him to keep him employed. That is how it really works.

You have wikipedia, you have ChatGPT, go find out the truth for yourself. Talk to people and learn.

MelvinUdall said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Sims said:

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Ah I see, well, I'm glad he's being honest.

I just weight that higher than a candidate's ability to thread a rhetorical needle to avoid losing hypothetical identity politics votes.

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Well I guess we'll have to see how voters respond to this on election day. I was under the impression that saying Jesus Christ is not the way to heaven might annoy some Christians here.

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I don't vote for a politician on their religious beliefs, I vote on how they will govern.

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I agree with you. I don't care about the race or religion of the politician myself.

But there are far too many low IQ idiots who do. Just a cursory look around here will prove this.

AstroAggie15 said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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We need more people that think like this. Unless the'yre scientologists or mormon

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Or just the Dutch in general

infinity ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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Vivek probably thinks you worship demons too, but he will be too polite to tell you to your face.

No religion worships "demons". All religions that I have studied have the concept of good and bad and "demons" are on the bad side and have to be destroyed.

But your pastor gave you wrong information because he needs you in his flock and to keep paying him to keep him employed. That is how it really works.

You have wikipedia, you have ChatGPT, go find out the truth for yourself. Talk to people and learn.

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Hindus have gods that are demons. Ravana for example.

Yes, these half human, half octopus/monkey/whatever things are definitely not demonic. And Vivek can worship whatever he wants, but this is America and we are a Christian nation. He should definitely not be ruling over any American.

Hardcore Greg said:

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cecil77 said:

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Someone could cherry pick from both the Old and New Testaments and reach unfavorable conclusions.

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I am sick of this american leftist attitude that always gives foreign people/cultures/religion the benefit of the doubt...always goaltends for them...while always being critical of the native prevailing people/culture/religion.

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I'm far from leftist.

Not goaltending at all, just not demonizing.

infinity ag said:

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Queso1 said:

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Vivek is great politically but he was somewhat deceptive in his proclamations regarding "god". He's trying to stay on the fence. The Hindu god is not the same as the God of Abraham - at least according to scripture. But I don't know.

I'd like to think he is a faithful and decent man, but these two are the same only in that they are both supreme omnipotent creators.

I also think it is inconsistent to say that Jesus is a son of god but not the son of God. Jesus proclaimed himself as the one and only Son of God.

All that said, he is preferable to me than a nihilistic atheist.

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I think Vivek should sit this one out. He won't win or make anyone happy. Lose-lose for him.


Highly intellectual people have a tendency to shoot their mouths off (like Elon) and not realize that they aren't in their living room, they are being filmed and they are at risk either way/.

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Eh. He was directly asked a question about it in a very non formal setting. Of course it's not the right way to do it because of this exact thread and how it is misconstrued but it bothers me when a man just can't adequately speak his mind on a topic that is obviously very meaningful to him for fear of pissing off the Christians. Valid as that may be.

I do not believe hinduism is a way to God and heaven. It is a way to becoming a bovine then maybe a place called nirvana. It believes in no founder or central authority. They can be very violent, but mostly within. Unlike radical islam, they do not believe they are called to kill those of other beliefs. I can work with that.

Colonel Kurtz said:

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Yes, these half human, half octopus/monkey/whatever things are definitely not demonic. And Vivek can worship whatever he wants, but this is America and we are a Christian nation. He should definitely not be ruling over any American.

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He's a better person than easily half of our "Christian" politicians as we speak. Even when he has his evil CEO hat on. Your argument has zero legs.

I'm not even a particular fan of him or anything.

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American Hardwood said:

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I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

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Yeah, but in large enough numbers, many of them just chip away at our culture and sense of unity. Like if you import enough, it changes things. They have taken over certain areas in and around Houston and voted to ban fireworks, except for on indian holidays, in some cases.

If they all assimilated and truly loved and appreciated this country, I'd have zero problems. But too many are here to grift off of us (and no more). Hopefully their children assimilate and become Americanized.

Honestly...F this BS...dafuq is Diwali???

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Diwali fireworks are now legally permitted in unincorporated Harris and Fort Bend counties due to Texas HB 608, allowing sales five days before through midnight on the last day of Diwali. This applies to unincorporated areas only; fireworks are strictly prohibited within the City of Houston. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
Key details:

• Diwali Authorization: Harris and Fort Bend counties approved special fireworks sales for Diwali, acknowledging its importance to the Indian community.
• Location Restrictions: Fireworks are illegal within Houston city limits. They are permitted in unincorporated county areas (e.g., Katy, Cypress, Spring).
• Burn Bans: Even if a general burn ban is in effect, Diwali fireworks are often specifically permitted, though sometimes limited to smaller fireworks.

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That is an immigration policy issue which isn't the subject of this thread.

You are lumping Vivek into the highlighted category of immigrant which I think is unfair. I've never been given the perception that Vivek doesn't appreciate this country.

PaulsBunions said:

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Sims said:

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Put his foot in his mouth? Shouldn't we expect him to tell the truth about his beliefs because that's what he is doing. I'd rather have Vivek saying he's believes differently than I do and owning up to it and knowingly vote for him than have Talarico say that he shares my faith tradition but he is right about it and I am wrong in my practice of it.

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Then go full Hindu, not some weird Coexist blend of Hinduism and Christianity.

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His quote IS full Hindi. Many Hindi believe that Christ is one of many reflections of deity.

How does he feel about cows?

infinity ag said:

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MelvinUdall said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Sims said:

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Ah I see, well, I'm glad he's being honest.

I just weight that higher than a candidate's ability to thread a rhetorical needle to avoid losing hypothetical identity politics votes.

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Well I guess we'll have to see how voters respond to this on election day. I was under the impression that saying Jesus Christ is not the way to heaven might annoy some Christians here.

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I don't vote for a politician on their religious beliefs, I vote on how they will govern.

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I agree with you. I don't care about the race or religion of the politician myself.

But there are far too many low IQ idiots who do. Just a cursory look around here will prove this.

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While I don't think his Hinduism should disqualify him, there is nothing low IQ about desiring your politicians have simliar moral and ethical beliefs as you have, and religion is the most prominent vehicle for those beliefs.

Of course you will still get "Christians" like Talarico that go against everything you believe, and non Christians that largely operate within a Judeo-Christian framework.

Eliminatus said:

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AstroAggie15 said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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We need more people that think like this. Unless the'yre scientologists or mormon

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Or just the Dutch in general

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American Hardwood said:

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Hardcore Greg said:

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American Hardwood said:

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I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

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Yeah, but in large enough numbers, many of them just chip away at our culture and sense of unity. Like if you import enough, it changes things. They have taken over certain areas in and around Houston and voted to ban fireworks, except for on indian holidays, in some cases.

If they all assimilated and truly loved and appreciated this country, I'd have zero problems. But too many are here to grift off of us (and no more). Hopefully their children assimilate and become Americanized.

Honestly...F this BS...dafuq is Diwali???

Quote:

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Diwali fireworks are now legally permitted in unincorporated Harris and Fort Bend counties due to Texas HB 608, allowing sales five days before through midnight on the last day of Diwali. This applies to unincorporated areas only; fireworks are strictly prohibited within the City of Houston. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
Key details:

• Diwali Authorization: Harris and Fort Bend counties approved special fireworks sales for Diwali, acknowledging its importance to the Indian community.
• Location Restrictions: Fireworks are illegal within Houston city limits. They are permitted in unincorporated county areas (e.g., Katy, Cypress, Spring).
• Burn Bans: Even if a general burn ban is in effect, Diwali fireworks are often specifically permitted, though sometimes limited to smaller fireworks.

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That is an immigration policy issue which isn't the subject of this thread.

You are lumping Vivek into the highlighted category of immigrant which I think is unfair. I've never been given the perception that Vivek doesn't appreciate this country.

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He thinks we need more Indians. Imagine if some white foreigner in another country was like "we need to import many more whites here to help set this country on course bc you people can;t reach your full potential without us".

Very few non-whites seem to be able to consider shoe-on-the-other-foot scenarios like this. A lot of East Asians tend to be able to though from my experience.

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Many Hindi believe that Christ is one of many reflections of deity.

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This is not the same as thinking he is a "god" in their religion.

MelvinUdall said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Sims said:

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Ah I see, well, I'm glad he's being honest.

I just weight that higher than a candidate's ability to thread a rhetorical needle to avoid losing hypothetical identity politics votes.

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Well I guess we'll have to see how voters respond to this on election day. I was under the impression that saying Jesus Christ is not the way to heaven might annoy some Christians here.

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I don't vote for a politician on their religious beliefs, I vote on how they will govern.

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My point is that this statement hurts his chances to govern at all. So you should probably care what he says.

Colonel Kurtz said:

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Yes, these half human, half octopus/monkey/whatever things are definitely not demonic. And Vivek can worship whatever he wants, but this is America and we are a Christian nation. He should definitely not be ruling over any American.

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Good thing this is America and we don't have "Rulers".

Eliminatus said:

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AstroAggie15 said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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We need more people that think like this. Unless the'yre scientologists or mormon

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Or just the Dutch in general

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Don't forget the gingers!!!!

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My point is that this statement hurts his chances to govern at all. So you should probably care what he says.

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if only had alerted him back in 2023 when this video was made. maybe he could have salvaged his shot at being governor three years later

BusterAg said:

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Eliminatus said:

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AstroAggie15 said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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We need more people that think like this. Unless the'yre scientologists or mormon

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Or just the Dutch in general

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Don't forget the gingers!!!!

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Oh damn. See, I actually DO try to forget about the soulless ones until someone HAS to bring them up.