Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but Jesus is not THE son of god.

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Bob Lee
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infinity ag said:

Bob Lee said:

cecil77 said:

For those of you that have an issue with this.

Would you choose a devout, practicing Hindu, or a Easter Sunday only (if that) Christian who is immoral?


Immoral by whose standard? Are they going to govern according to Christian principles? Because devout Hindus worship mother earth. That's a problem for me because they fundamentally misunderstand what is material or created and divinity. All Christians fail to live up to their own standards. It's part and parcel of our humanity. It would take a lot for me to vote for a Hindu, but I wouldn't rule it out.


According to you. But not according to them. They have opinions and so do you.
Many of us make the mistake of thinking religion is science. It is not.

All this childish and asinine devil/demon discussion on this thread also dismays me, I hope these are olds who will be gone soon and not youngs who are the future.


According to me who the question was directed to. The mistake you're making is in thinking I should check my Christianity at the door when I'm voting because other people have different faith traditions.

What was said to make you think anyone believes metaphysics is a natural science? Definitionally it can't be that. It doesn't mean we can't investigate claims about the metaphysical. Epistemology is not a natural science. You seem to believe it's possible for you to know things, and that we're really having a conversation even though you can't prove it empirically.
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Capt. Augustus McCrae said:

An L of an Ag said:

PaulsBunions said:

Sims said:

Put his foot in his mouth? Shouldn't we expect him to tell the truth about his beliefs because that's what he is doing. I'd rather have Vivek saying he's believes differently than I do and owning up to it and knowingly vote for him than have Talarico say that he shares my faith tradition but he is right about it and I am wrong in my practice of it.


Then go full Hindu, not some weird Coexist blend of Hinduism and Christianity.


There's a Ray Wylie Hubbard song lyric in there somewhere, but I can't quite recall.


Some get spiritual because they see the light, and others because the feel the heat.


I didn't use the cocaine to get high, I just liked the way it smelled.

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this is what will be the reason Vivek loses if he loses. not this statement per se, but the attitude. You have to love Ohio and Ohioans if you want to be governor. Not have a plan to import new people.




democrats want the same thing he does, so there is no alternative if he wins primary. Will conservatives stay home is the question. Let's hope not.
infinity ag
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BharatAg said:

Colonel Kurtz said:

infinity ag said:

oh no said:

Htownag11 said:

American Hardwood said:

I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

How many American Christians are governing states/provinces in India?

Whatever that number is, that is how many Indian Hindus we should have governing here.


He is Indian and he is a practicing Hindu, but you're making it sound like he's not American with this comparison. Not the same as would be an American governing a province in India. Vivek is an American. He's a citizen, born in Cincinnati OH, lived in the USA his entire life, educated in USA, founded American companies in USA and employed Americans in the USA. His immigrant mother also became a naturalized American citizen.


oh no, the earlier poster thinks if you are non-white you cannot "rule" an American state regardless even if you won a fair election. And if you are not Christian you cannot "rule" either.

He likely thinks that VR is an H1B invader who needs to be shipped back. He isn't.

Your last sentence is correct at least. He is an anchor baby who should be shipped back.


I have seen posts like this on X from groypers. By your logic, would Marco Rubio count as an "anchor baby" who should be shipped back too, since his parents came from Cuba? Just trying to understand where you're drawing the line. Based on your post history, it seems like this only applies to certain groups.


Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Trump was born in "Kallstadt, Kingdom of Bavaria". Last I checked, that was not in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

So that makes Trump's father, Fred Trump, born in NYC an anchor baby.

Hence we must impeach President Donald Trump forthwith for being an anchor-grandchild and send him back to where he came from - that is Bavaria, wherever the hell it is!

</Dunderhead logic of low IQ rural hicks>
infinity ag
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Bob Lee said:

infinity ag said:

Bob Lee said:

cecil77 said:

For those of you that have an issue with this.

Would you choose a devout, practicing Hindu, or a Easter Sunday only (if that) Christian who is immoral?


Immoral by whose standard? Are they going to govern according to Christian principles? Because devout Hindus worship mother earth. That's a problem for me because they fundamentally misunderstand what is material or created and divinity. All Christians fail to live up to their own standards. It's part and parcel of our humanity. It would take a lot for me to vote for a Hindu, but I wouldn't rule it out.


According to you. But not according to them. They have opinions and so do you.
Many of us make the mistake of thinking religion is science. It is not.

All this childish and asinine devil/demon discussion on this thread also dismays me, I hope these are olds who will be gone soon and not youngs who are the future.


According to me who the question was directed to. The mistake you're making is in thinking I should check my Christianity at the door when I'm voting because other people have different faith traditions.

What was said to make you think anyone believes metaphysics is a natural science? Definitionally it can't be that. It doesn't mean we can't investigate claims about the metaphysical. Epistemology is not a natural science. You seem to believe it's possible for you to know things, and that we're really having a conversation even though you can't prove it empirically.


No, you can vote for whomsoever you want. It is your right. If you want Christians only, then go for it. No one can tell you not to vote for a Christian. I might disagree with your logic, but nothing I can do.
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Oh Vivek...
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infinity ag said:

BharatAg said:

Colonel Kurtz said:

infinity ag said:

oh no said:

Htownag11 said:

American Hardwood said:

I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

How many American Christians are governing states/provinces in India?

Whatever that number is, that is how many Indian Hindus we should have governing here.


He is Indian and he is a practicing Hindu, but you're making it sound like he's not American with this comparison. Not the same as would be an American governing a province in India. Vivek is an American. He's a citizen, born in Cincinnati OH, lived in the USA his entire life, educated in USA, founded American companies in USA and employed Americans in the USA. His immigrant mother also became a naturalized American citizen.


oh no, the earlier poster thinks if you are non-white you cannot "rule" an American state regardless even if you won a fair election. And if you are not Christian you cannot "rule" either.

He likely thinks that VR is an H1B invader who needs to be shipped back. He isn't.

Your last sentence is correct at least. He is an anchor baby who should be shipped back.


I have seen posts like this on X from groypers. By your logic, would Marco Rubio count as an "anchor baby" who should be shipped back too, since his parents came from Cuba? Just trying to understand where you're drawing the line. Based on your post history, it seems like this only applies to certain groups.


Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Trump was born in "Kallstadt, Kingdom of Bavaria". Last I checked, that was not in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

So that makes Trump's father, Fred Trump, born in NYC an anchor baby.

Hence we must impeach President Donald Trump forthwith for being an anchor-grandchild and send him back to where he came from - that is Bavaria, wherever the hell it is!

</Dunderhead logic of low IQ rural hicks>


You should have dug a little further on the Trump family tree. His mother Mary Anne was Scottish by birth so Donald J. Trump himself is an anchor baby.

Now Ol Friedrich married a lady named Elisabeth… Christ. So whilst Trump is no the son of Christ, he is he grandson of Elisabeth Trump ne Christ. So POTUS is the grandson of Chris.

Also, Elisabeth is the one who started the E. Trump and Son Real Estate, now known as the Trump Organization.

The more you know…
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AgFrogfan said:

Capt. Augustus McCrae said:

An L of an Ag said:

PaulsBunions said:

Sims said:

Put his foot in his mouth? Shouldn't we expect him to tell the truth about his beliefs because that's what he is doing. I'd rather have Vivek saying he's believes differently than I do and owning up to it and knowingly vote for him than have Talarico say that he shares my faith tradition but he is right about it and I am wrong in my practice of it.


Then go full Hindu, not some weird Coexist blend of Hinduism and Christianity.


There's a Ray Wylie Hubbard song lyric in there somewhere, but I can't quite recall.


Some get spiritual because they see the light, and others because the feel the heat.


I didn't use the cocaine to get high, I just liked the way it smelled.


Buddha was not a Christian but Jesus would've made a good Buddhist. Love that song.
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BonfireNerd04
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Bob Lee said:

infinity ag said:

Bob Lee said:

cecil77 said:

For those of you that have an issue with this.

Would you choose a devout, practicing Hindu, or a Easter Sunday only (if that) Christian who is immoral?


Immoral by whose standard? Are they going to govern according to Christian principles? Because devout Hindus worship mother earth. That's a problem for me because they fundamentally misunderstand what is material or created and divinity. All Christians fail to live up to their own standards. It's part and parcel of our humanity. It would take a lot for me to vote for a Hindu, but I wouldn't rule it out.


According to you. But not according to them. They have opinions and so do you.
Many of us make the mistake of thinking religion is science. It is not.

All this childish and asinine devil/demon discussion on this thread also dismays me, I hope these are olds who will be gone soon and not youngs who are the future.


According to me who the question was directed to. The mistake you're making is in thinking I should check my Christianity at the door when I'm voting because other people have different faith traditions.

What was said to make you think anyone believes metaphysics is a natural science? Definitionally it can't be that. It doesn't mean we can't investigate claims about the metaphysical. Epistemology is not a natural science. You seem to believe it's possible for you to know things, and that we're really having a conversation even though you can't prove it empirically.

"A vote is not a valentine; it's a chess move."

You don't have to agree 100% with the candidate you vote for.

I'm not going to tell you how to vote, but I personally care more about having the correct policies than the correct theological doctrines.
infinity ag
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flown-the-coop said:

infinity ag said:

BharatAg said:

Colonel Kurtz said:

infinity ag said:

oh no said:

Htownag11 said:

American Hardwood said:

I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

How many American Christians are governing states/provinces in India?

Whatever that number is, that is how many Indian Hindus we should have governing here.


He is Indian and he is a practicing Hindu, but you're making it sound like he's not American with this comparison. Not the same as would be an American governing a province in India. Vivek is an American. He's a citizen, born in Cincinnati OH, lived in the USA his entire life, educated in USA, founded American companies in USA and employed Americans in the USA. His immigrant mother also became a naturalized American citizen.


oh no, the earlier poster thinks if you are non-white you cannot "rule" an American state regardless even if you won a fair election. And if you are not Christian you cannot "rule" either.

He likely thinks that VR is an H1B invader who needs to be shipped back. He isn't.

Your last sentence is correct at least. He is an anchor baby who should be shipped back.


I have seen posts like this on X from groypers. By your logic, would Marco Rubio count as an "anchor baby" who should be shipped back too, since his parents came from Cuba? Just trying to understand where you're drawing the line. Based on your post history, it seems like this only applies to certain groups.


Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Trump was born in "Kallstadt, Kingdom of Bavaria". Last I checked, that was not in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

So that makes Trump's father, Fred Trump, born in NYC an anchor baby.

Hence we must impeach President Donald Trump forthwith for being an anchor-grandchild and send him back to where he came from - that is Bavaria, wherever the hell it is!

</Dunderhead logic of low IQ rural hicks>


You should have dug a little further on the Trump family tree. His mother Mary Anne was Scottish by birth so Donald J. Trump himself is an anchor baby.

Now Ol Friedrich married a lady named Elisabeth… Christ. So whilst Trump is no the son of Christ, he is he grandson of Elisabeth Trump ne Christ. So POTUS is the grandson of Chris.

Also, Elisabeth is the one who started the E. Trump and Son Real Estate, now known as the Trump Organization.

The more you know…


You make a good point, I didn't know about his mother. So yes, that makes Trump a clear anchor baby himself.

Good information, thanks for sharing.

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P.U.T.U said:

At least he is being honest this time, Hindus believe in many gods and he is letting you know what he believes. Don't have to agree with it but a lot better then Talarico lying about Christianity.


Amen

So many Christians to get their own dogma hurt them.

If you only will vote for a Christian like Joe Biden who's for
Child trans surgeries
Sacrifice children to molech
Incest
Marriage between anyone
Adoption by anyone

But let's kill the Hindu Republican that's against all of it

We all would like true Bible believing Christians
We don't get that but 5% if the time.

So let's get the core values right


Bob Lee
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BonfireNerd04 said:

Bob Lee said:

infinity ag said:

Bob Lee said:

cecil77 said:

For those of you that have an issue with this.

Would you choose a devout, practicing Hindu, or a Easter Sunday only (if that) Christian who is immoral?


Immoral by whose standard? Are they going to govern according to Christian principles? Because devout Hindus worship mother earth. That's a problem for me because they fundamentally misunderstand what is material or created and divinity. All Christians fail to live up to their own standards. It's part and parcel of our humanity. It would take a lot for me to vote for a Hindu, but I wouldn't rule it out.


According to you. But not according to them. They have opinions and so do you.
Many of us make the mistake of thinking religion is science. It is not.

All this childish and asinine devil/demon discussion on this thread also dismays me, I hope these are olds who will be gone soon and not youngs who are the future.


According to me who the question was directed to. The mistake you're making is in thinking I should check my Christianity at the door when I'm voting because other people have different faith traditions.

What was said to make you think anyone believes metaphysics is a natural science? Definitionally it can't be that. It doesn't mean we can't investigate claims about the metaphysical. Epistemology is not a natural science. You seem to believe it's possible for you to know things, and that we're really having a conversation even though you can't prove it empirically.

"A vote is not a valentine; it's a chess move."

You don't have to agree 100% with the candidate you vote for.

I'm not going to tell you how to vote, but I personally care more about having the correct policies than the correct theological doctrines.


What's the difference?
Im Gipper
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Christians were so mad!!


I'm Gipper
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Surely it was the cat eating Haitian voting block that turned out for him.

Vivek is a bit much for me but I would be happy to see him win the general. JD was there today to vote and campaign.

And more rumblings today that Trump will be in full campaign mode for the midterms. Giddy up.
Im Gipper
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Maybe its the 17 Democrat Christian voters in Ohio that are going to sway this election. They were all set to cross over to vote GOP, but this years old video changed their mind! LOL

I'm Gipper
infinity ag
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Im Gipper said:

Christians were so mad!!



Bro Vivek won each and every county in the primary!
Putsch went puuussssstttcccchhhhhhhhhhhh

No Spin Ag
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Im Gipper said:

Christians were so mad!!




Okay, but if they're American conservative Christians, when aren't they?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
infinity ag
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I have always found it hard to understand when people say they will vote for people of their own race, religion, birthplace, national origin etc.

What became of merit? That is the only thing that should matter in America. Not any DEI attributes.

If people think Vivek would do a bad job as Gov, they shouldn't vote for him. But to say he doesn't belong to the same religion as a reason is very very backward.
 
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