Bomb the children?

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Iran says they will fill their power plants etc. with children.

UN chief says that means you can't bomb.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-deadline-israel-hormuz-april-7

I know, who cares?

But can the GOP take the pressure "bombing children" would create in the US. I say no, the GOP has already shown it is feckless.

Will be an interesting day.
Joe Deertay
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Feckless? I'm allllll for striking Iran…. But I'm feckless for not being okay with CHILDREN being dead? I know in a heartbeat they would kill an American child…. But if they load the children… innocent children into a power plant… I'd have a really hard time pulling that trigger.
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Joe Deertay said:

Feckless? I'm allllll for striking Iran…. But I'm feckless for not being okay with CHILDREN being dead? I know in a heartbeat they would kill an American child…. But if they load the children… innocent children into a power plant… I'd have a really hard time pulling that trigger.


Exactly. As my parents always said, don't worry about how other folks act, worry about yourself. And since I have Christian values, morals, and ethics; killing children and civilians by the thousands (which is exactly what will happen if we destroy their infrastructure) is simply abhorrent to me.

The fact this is being discussed makes me seriously wonder about our country. Yeah, maybe it's all talk…….4D chess and all that.

Problem is………. I don't think the Iranians play 4D chess……….and Trump doesn't seem to understand that. Leaving him either looking stupid or making the decision to kill masses of civilians. And I thought one of the goals was to "free" the people?
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Joe Deertay said:

Feckless? I'm allllll for striking Iran…. But I'm feckless for not being okay with CHILDREN being dead? I know in a heartbeat they would kill an American child…. But if they load the children… innocent children into a power plant… I'd have a really hard time pulling that trigger.

War always destroys the innocent with the guilty. Hitler would have never lost, without our killing many thousands of civilians, including children. Dresden was >25K by itself.

But I understand your position.
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This is who/what the fake news media support;


Some Dem house member is introducing articles of impeachment against Hegseth for 'war crimes' today I read.
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Do you all think this war would have gone over differently if he'd kept his mouth shut?
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It' not like the target is a school. How many chikdren are working the powerplants? The question is not what kind of leader takes out a target loaded with children, but what kind of leader loads the target with children in the first place.
As far as taking out infrastructure, humans survived for centuries without electricity. They'll be fine.
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i don't think trump would authorize it. but would bibi on his own accord?
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If all the kids are at the power plants then the targets they have "hidden" next to the schools will be free to attack.
Joe Deertay
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As much as I love Trump. Sometimes transparency takes away your surprise attack position.
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Or turn Kharg into rubble
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Do it! Fill every single power plant and water facility to the rafters with children, please!

While the Iranians are showing just how barbaric they are, we hit the pipelines supplying gas to the power station, and the transmission lines to the water plants, and the mission is still accomplished.
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Iranians feeding our leftists.
Instead of being aghast at someone who put kids in harms way, it is now Trumps fault..
I don't want kids to die. But shouldn't an evaluation of a government who would march kids to their death be done?
Iran, accept your defeat and save the kids. But no, your desires lead your own kids to death. It ain't Trump.
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Sounds like a plan.

ETA: B-1 83
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Jinx said:

Do you all think this war would have gone over differently if he'd kept his mouth shut?


100%. He's boxed himself in and now the only way the war ends is if Trump "retreats". The objectives were clear at the beginning (when Rubio was speaking) and regime change and shipping lanes weren't on them. Go in, bomb away until you decide you're done, then quit. That's all this needed to be.
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Using children as human shields is the reality of Iran and Islam in general. Iran is not, nor is Islam, compatible with Western Culture, or even basic humanity when you get down to it. This is always in the plan at some point with these scumbags.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Joe Deertay said:

Or turn Kharg into rubble

Kharg + Rubble =. Krubble

if they shut down Kharg Island via bombs the Iranian Regime will have very little income … those leaders will be under immense pressure from their own military and of course the civilians
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I'm not putting this on Trump. But you gotta take crown jewel from the crown. And I don't think it's the power plants. I agree this should make the leftist puking mad that Iranian government. But they literally believe in Death to America, so what do you expect from the left. They would put children in danger to move their agenda…. It's already being done here
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Iran knows partnering with traitorous Democrats is their only hope of winning and traitorous Democrats are ready to sell out America again for power
nortex97
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Yes, they frequently sent groups of young boys into minefields in the 80's to clear them.
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Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty reported that "during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War, when self-sacrifice and martyrdom became the quintessential values of the Islamic Revolution and the guiding principles of Iranian society, more than 550,000 [elementary and high school] students were sent to the front, often with a plastic 'key to paradise' hanging around their necks."

These children "were used as cannon fodder in human-wave attacks launched by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps against the Iraqi forces. In order to promote and glorify the spirit of martyrdom in line with the law enacted by the Majlis [Iranian parliament], Oct. 30 is celebrated as Student Basij Day."
"Welfare and Social Security Minister Sadeq Mahsouli, himself a former Revolutionary Guard commander, said last month that 'children should be educated in such a way that when they reach the age of 13, they will be able to imitate Hossein Fahmideh [commit martyrdom],' " the report notes.

The New York Times' Terence Smith reported, "The young boys were recruited by local clergy or simply rounded up in the villages of Iran, given an intensive indoctrination in the Shiite tradition of martyrdom, and then sent into battle against Iraqi armor. Often bound together in groups of 20 by ropes to prevent the fainthearted from deserting, they hurl themselves on barbed wire or march into Iraqi minefields in the face of withering machine-gun fire to clear the way for Iranian tanks. Across the back of their khaki-colored shirts is stenciled the slogan: 'I have the special permission of the Imam to enter heaven.'"

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Its good thing that trump has no problem backtracking. You would think he would learn that the art of the deal doesnt work with fanatics willing to die for their beliefs. He needs to blow up some oil production and make a final attack to destroy uranium production and then call it a victory.
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Why does the left not hold Iran accountable for anything? This nut job Regime knows the US media would never blame them and throw all the blame on Trump. While they are at it why dont the Iranians empty their child care centers and take the toddlers to the missile factories.

Where does this crap end. Why does our media carry their water? Every US enemy since Vietnam uses this same tactic and it works every time.

I can assure you if the table were turned these maniacs would target our schools for giggles. Oh wait IISIS already does.
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fullback44 said:

Joe Deertay said:

Or turn Kharg into rubble

Kharg + Rubble =. Krubble

if they shut down Kharg Island via bombs the Iranian Regime will have very little income … those leaders will be under immense pressure from their own military and of course the civilians

This creates a long-term drop in world wide oil. Decisively lowers republican midterm prospects. Adds to "inflation". It may be what he does, but I suspect in this case he would rather take Kharg and then dare the Iranians to destroy it.
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Human shields is a war crime if the target is a legitimate strategic infrastructure target that would inhibit war fighting capacity. Power and industrial targets fal into legitimate strategic war production targets generally, so shielding them with involuntary civilian occupants is the war crime.

That being said, our precision targeting means we can hit particular components of infrastructure that are not buildings but exposed bits of equipment or along power lines or pipelines that achieves disruption while reasonably avoiding even human shields.


Everyone knows this. From Iran yo our military to the media to the American left to the Trump administration. That means this entire exercise is purely Iranian propaganda feeding a willing American left and leftist media a narrative to willingly run with.
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nortex97 said:

Yes, they frequently sent groups of young boys into minefields in the 80's to clear them.
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Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty reported t;;;
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'I have the special permission of the Imam to enter heaven.
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Yep. Wow an American with a memory. Amazing. Yep Amazing how our treasonous media never tells the full story. With the Likes of the NYT its all politics all the time. Carry that water for the left not matter the cost.

They'd never run a story like this. Or all the hundreds of stories of barbarism committed by this regime.

This is why the Young'ons around here think "Whats Iran done.". They are clueless because no one ever told them the story.

You cant hate legacy media enough
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Over_ed said:

Iran says they will fill their power plants etc. with children.

UN chief says that means you can't bomb.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-deadline-israel-hormuz-april-7

I know, who cares?

But can the GOP take the pressure "bombing children" would create in the US. I say no, the GOP has already shown it is feckless.

Will be an interesting day.



So you take the Islamic Republic's side, even BEFORE ANYTHING HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED YET

I'm sure all our GI's in 1944 would have loved your fake moral outrage at bombing French trains throughout Normandy and all of France.

or bombing Japanese cities for TWO ENTIRE YEARS with firebombs.

or bombing Berlin, Hamburg, Kiel, Bremen into dust.
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fullback44 said:

Joe Deertay said:

Or turn Kharg into rubble

Kharg + Rubble =. Krubble

if they shut down Kharg Island via bombs the Iranian Regime will have very little income … those leaders will be under immense pressure from their own military and of course the civilians

Or simply make it "non functional" for a while. Supply lines can be knocked out accomplishing the same thing without taking Iran out of the oil export game for years.
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If we want to knock out the electrical grid, there are ways to do that without striking power plants, or inflicting large kinetic damage.
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Joe Deertay said:

Feckless? I'm allllll for striking Iran…. But I'm feckless for not being okay with CHILDREN being dead? I know in a heartbeat they would kill an American child…. But if they load the children… innocent children into a power plant… I'd have a really hard time pulling that trigger.

Who is. Do you think those B-17 pilots were happy dropping bombs on Dresden in 1945 when the war was practically over. How about firebombing Tokyo ?. At least the Germans and Japs didn't deliberately unload kids to the target zones.

Those children are being endangered by a sick ruthless murderous regime with a terrible barbaric history. They've show it a million times over the decades; from sending kids to clean mine fields in the '1980's to backing a supporting terrorist setting off bombs in coffee houses in the '00. And yet we have complete and total idiots ok with these same people enriching Uranium.

The political "Iran war" tread is full of people saying this crap. The disconnect from logic and reason is unreal. And anybody that buys it is being played for a total fool.

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LMCane said:

Over_ed said:

Iran says they will fill their power plants etc. with children.

UN chief says that means you can't bomb.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-deadline-israel-hormuz-april-7

I know, who cares?

But can the GOP take the pressure "bombing children" would create in the US. I say no, the GOP has already shown it is feckless.

Will be an interesting day.



So you take the Islamic Republic's side, even BEFORE ANYTHING HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED YET

I'm sure all our GI's in 1944 would have loved your fake moral outrage at bombing French trains throughout Normandy and all of France.

or bombing Japanese cities for TWO ENTIRE YEARS with firebombs.

or bombing Berlin, Hamburg, Kiel, Bremen into dust.

Dude, read my posts. I support bombing of the power plants, even if they have children hostages. WTF "moral outrage"? Sometimes I think I live in an alternate reality.

ETA an my example was Dresden fire bombing, which short of some of the attacks on Japanese cities was about as bad as it got in WW2 for US inflicted civilian casualties.

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If you cowardly use children as human shields, then their deaths are on you.

Trump has made it clear what the targets are.
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ttu_85 said:

Joe Deertay said:

Feckless? I'm allllll for striking Iran…. But I'm feckless for not being okay with CHILDREN being dead? I know in a heartbeat they would kill an American child…. But if they load the children… innocent children into a power plant… I'd have a really hard time pulling that trigger.

Who is. Do you think those B-17 pilots were happy dropping bombs on Dresden in 1945 when the war was practically over. How about firebombing Tokyo ?. At least the Germans and Japs didn't deliberately unload kids to the target zones.

Those children are being endangered by a sick ruthless murderous regime with a terrible barbaric history. They've show it a million times over the decades; from sending kids to clean mine fields in the '1980's to backing a supporting terrorist setting off bombs in coffee houses in the '00. And yet we have complete and total idiots ok with these same people enriching Uranium.

The political "Iran war" tread is full of people saying this crap. The disconnect from logic and reason is unreal. And anybody that buys it is being played for a total fool.



Also strongly suspect that if the kids won't show up to the plants voluntarily, they'll be marched there at gunpoint after a few "examples" have been made. That's the kind of trash we're dealing with.
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Joe Deertay said:

Feckless? I'm allllll for striking Iran…. But I'm feckless for not being okay with CHILDREN being dead? I know in a heartbeat they would kill an American child…. But if they load the children… innocent children into a power plant… I'd have a really hard time pulling that trigger.

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Over_ed said:

Iran says they will fill their power plants etc. with children.

UN chief says that means you can't bomb.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-deadline-israel-hormuz-april-7

I know, who cares?

But can the GOP take the pressure "bombing children" would create in the US. I say no, the GOP has already shown it is feckless.

Will be an interesting day.



Would special forces be able to take the military in these facilities out, even with them having children in them?

I ask because, if they could, that would be another option to be done first. Then once that's done, and the kids are safe, bomb TF out of the facility.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Over_ed said:

Iran says they will fill their power plants etc. with children.

UN chief says that means you can't bomb.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-deadline-israel-hormuz-april-7

I know, who cares?

But can the GOP take the pressure "bombing children" would create in the US. I say no, the GOP has already shown it is feckless.

Will be an interesting day.



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