Trump hosts college sports round table

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Im Gipper
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It 100% need to be fixed with a CBA, athletes cannot enter the portal every freaking year, salary caps like the NFL, etc. But 100% of this lies at the feet of the NCAA.

How does this lie at the feet of the NCAA when everything you are proposing would be quickly shot down by courts due to Antitrust laws?

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infinity ag said:

American greed at work again.

We ruined a decent working system in the quest to squeeze more $$$ out of it and it is now completely broken and will soon die .

When is "Soon"?


All college football needs is one of our many many amazing Fortune 500 hero CEOs to step in and right the ship.

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I agree that the old system sucked. When my son played, all his compensation was under the table. Sure, he got his scholarship and meal+lodging check every month.

But for day to day, he had to scrimp and save. NCAA rules forbade part time jobs, and he had to go to school in the summer to get the 30 hours to remain eligible. So he relied on:

- Sweetheart deals on rental properties
- Comped meals at local restaurants.
- Sweetheart automobile lease

Those were the big ones. I guess stars got straight up $$$ (the $100 handshake), but not for my son.

These guys have needed to be paid for a LONG time.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Im not that old. Class of 2006.

I just dont think its an unfair exchange to play sports for the education and all the things thay come with it

I dont think college sports can continue as it trundles down this path

TV and Colleges made billions of these 'student athlete' and those same athletes were not allowed to hold jobs during the season and couldn't even eat a sandwich at an event they were invited to without getting in trouble (Eric Crouch $4 sandwich). It was extremely unfair.

If your employer was making billions off a product you produced all while paying you pennies on the dollar while controlling where you worked, when you worked (or could not work), what 'free stuff' you could accept, but not allow you any income outside of 'work', etc. you'd say screw this and sue too.
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Im Gipper said:

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It 100% need to be fixed with a CBA, athletes cannot enter the portal every freaking year, salary caps like the NFL, etc. But 100% of this lies at the feet of the NCAA.

How does this lie at the feet of the NCAA when everything you are proposing would be quickly shot down by courts due to Antitrust laws?

I mean the current mess lies at the feet of the NCAA.

Should have acted sooner to get some anti-trust exemptions from congress for college sports/athletes, let univ. pay athletes, rules on transfers, etc. It was pretty obvious many years ago this was coming and the wild west we see now is a result of doing nothing.
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thats quite a bold leap to think they could have gotten a broad antitrust exemption like they are seeking if they had acted earlier.
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agracer said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Im not that old. Class of 2006.

I just dont think its an unfair exchange to play sports for the education and all the things thay come with it

I dont think college sports can continue as it trundles down this path

TV and Colleges made billions of these 'student athlete' and those same athletes were not allowed to hold jobs during the season and couldn't even eat a sandwich at an event they were invited to without getting in trouble (Eric Crouch $4 sandwich). It was extremely unfair.

If your employer was making billions off a product you produced all while paying you pennies on the dollar while controlling where you worked, when you worked (or could not work), what 'free stuff' you could accept, but not allow you any income outside of 'work', etc. you'd say screw this and sue too.


Dont really care. Id love for college sports to return to amateur status all together, if there was a world where that was possible.


My point is the value of all the things you get when your a college athlete is more than fair for exchange of their services. If am athlete thi ks otherwise, they're free to pursue other options to take advantage of their skills

I think there could be more done to take care of the $4 dollar sandwich issue or employment issues during non sport seasons.

Id rather go back to under the table payments than the **** we have now which leaves college football (let's be real, this is all we're talking about) nearly unwatchable because it undermines a key connection of athlete and student.
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One of the challenges is that a significant portion of student-athletes don't see college as an educational opportunity as much as they see it as a springboard to a professional sports career, and when that doesn't pan out they are not prepared to pivot toward the academic side. It goes back to my earlier rant about how we send unprepared student athletes to the same college as nerdy kids and then wonder why the student athletes fail at college.

On the topic of the NCAA and this being somewhat their fault...my perspective is that they are not blameless and some of it does indeed fall on them. For decades they were so inflexible regarding "amateur status" that it was a grotesque joke. On case I remember in the 80s involved a student-athletes who wanted to do community theater over the summer. He couldn't get paid to do it because that would have invalidated his amateur status. Totally asinine policies like this and NCAAs failure to adapt to the real world is why we had guys like Johnny giving them the middle finger over autographs and why it took a lawsuit to allow NIL.
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We as a fan base really need to start wrapping our head around the fact that Texas A&M has and will benefit tremendously from this new system. The old system where on only a select few ran everything and thanksvto help from the media and backdrop deals with the NCAA (two things we were terrible at) and if a non member of this club broke through it required incredible luck and excellent planning (two other things we struggled with) such as BYU, Miami, Clemson, Auburn, and Indiana.

Now A&M has a seat at the table because we bought the damn chair! Do people really care that there is more roster turnover? Yall act like yall were having these players over for dinner and intimately knew them. 99% of the board has never had more than surface level convo with a player and guess what? All the new "rental" players will say the exact same thing as the old players "I love A&M, it's special, the fans are the best."

Let's use our advantages and buy the best linemen, QB, and special teams coach and win a title. Not 1 single Indiana fan is saying they hate the new model and will not celebrate their success, they are saying "thank goodness NIL, the portal, and our network of wealthy boosters came together for a title, let's do it again!"
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Bull Meachem
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They've been provided the opportunity. They choose to take it like any other student or not.
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Bull Meachem said:

They've been provided the opportunity. They choose to take it like any other student or not.


Ok. Let's throw you out in the middle of the ocean and give you the opportunity to swim to shore. We will give you the floaties for being good at football.
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"pooled TV rights".

may set land speed records for big 10 and sec racing to the courthouse if that's ever implemented
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BMX Bandit said:



"pooled TV rights".

may set land speed records for big 10 and sec racing to the courthouse if that's ever implemented

Regionalizing Olympic sports, along with all the other non-revenue sports would be a great place to start. Cal having to send their swim team to Miami for a meet is crazy, same with Rutgers having to send a baseball/softball team to Eugene. Localize all those, and keep the conferences for the revenue sports.
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"pooled TV rights".

may set land speed records for big 10 and sec racing to the courthouse if that's ever implemented

How in the world would that work with all of the outstanding media contracts?
tk for tu juan
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Aren't those the same bullet points from the Cody Campbell "Save College Sports" plan/proposed law?
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Texagcutie said:

Any thoughts on whether Congress can fix the mess that is college football, the transfer portal and NIL?

They need to stay the hell out of this, we have real problems and this is not something the government can or should fix and even if you did fix it it would be broken again shortly thereafter.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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tk for tu juan said:

Aren't those the same bullet points from the Cody Campbell "Save College Sports" plan/proposed law?


lots of similarities; he's on the committee & has Trumps ear so no surprise this closely follows
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aggie93 said:

Texagcutie said:

Any thoughts on whether Congress can fix the mess that is college football, the transfer portal and NIL?

They need to stay the hell out of this, we have real problems and this is not something the government can or should fix and even if you did fix it it would be broken again shortly thereafter.


They are already knee deep "in this"

the only "fix" can come from congress.
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