Keyno said:

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YouBet said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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YouBet said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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YouBet said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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What is better in Iran today from an America First perspective than it was when we started this thing five months ago?

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Destroyed their Navy and Air Force, reduced their ICBMs 50-65%, made them much poorer than they were which limits terrorism funding abroad, delayed their nuclear ambitions by X.

Softball question.

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Yet, we're still in the same position we were before.

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You asked what was better and I gave you receipts.

There are also things that are worse - Hormuz.

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And the things you said that are better are based solely on what our current administration tells us. I've been hearing that Iran's military has been destroyed for over a year. However, my lying eyes tell me that's not the case.

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I don't think that you have heard that other than their nuke capability. This fun hasn't been going on for over a year.

It's been reported by media as well as the government from all sides what I've shared. I'm quite sure all of MSM would be saying something different if it wasn't accurate.

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Trump sometimes erroneously claims that "Iran's military has been destroyed". I am not sure if he does that because he is conflating army with navy, is lying, or is just confused because he is 80. Regardless, he is incorrect.

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Yeah, I've heard him say the same thing. It's bluster.

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I wonder how much being in Trump's administration is going to be a millstone for people who want to seek other offices, including the presidency.

Do Trump's antics make Vance and Rubio look so bad that they are tarnished by being part of it all?

I have grown to admire Rubio a great deal and would hate to see his chances nationwide spoiled by being part of Trump's ****show (and I voted for Trump three times).

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OldArmy71 said:

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I wonder how much being in Trump's administration is going to be a millstone for people who want to seek other offices, including the presidency.

Do Trump's antics make Vance and Rubio look so bad that they are tarnished by being part of it all?

I have grown to admire Rubio a great deal and would hate to see his chances nationwide spoiled by being part of Trump's ****show (and I voted for Trump three times).

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lol same nonsense was said during his first term and yet here we are.

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Rubio is Israel first.

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this is very fake news.




as for 2028, the GOP nomination will be whichever person Trump endorses.

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Rubio is Israel first.

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this is very fake news.




as for 2028, the GOP nomination will be whichever person Trump endorses.

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Trump famously called it in 2015.

Haleyscomet50 said:

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Rubio is Israel first. That's if you believe Trump that Rubio was bought and paid for by Addlesons.. It's also if you believe the leaked emails from Israel Americans that said Rubio was bought and paid for and had been vetted by Israel. Wont be enough fox news boomers left for him to get the nomination. Same goes for Desantis. The blowback from this war will change the party.

Some may not want to believe it but Vance believes it. He will do anything to win not sure what he stands for but you can bet he will go with the position that gives him the best chance of winning. Watch his actions if you want to see where the party is heading Vance is a smart guy a old school politian with no real views just whatever gives him the best chance of winning. He knows America first Israel last is going to sale in 28.

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I don't believe this and will require more proof.

TRUMP TELLS OIL COMPANIES "GET YOUR CONSUMER (RETAIL!) OIL PRICES DOWN, NOW!"

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) August 3, 2026

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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Rubio is Israel first. That's if you believe Trump that Rubio was bought and paid for by Addlesons.. It's also if you believe the leaked emails from Israel Americans that said Rubio was bought and paid for and had been vetted by Israel. Wont be enough fox news boomers left for him to get the nomination. Same goes for Desantis. The blowback from this war will change the party.

Some may not want to believe it but Vance believes it. He will do anything to win not sure what he stands for but you can bet he will go with the position that gives him the best chance of winning. Watch his actions if you want to see where the party is heading Vance is a smart guy a old school politian with no real views just whatever gives him the best chance of winning. He knows America first Israel last is going to sale in 28.

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I don't believe this and will require more proof.

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You must be under the mistaken notion that we aren't dealing with the wandering ghosts of the Qanon thread.

The irony is leftist should love Trump and the right oppose him.

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Hope he has better luck threatening the oil companies than he does with Iran.

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Hope he doesn't. Let the markets work as designed.

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TRUMP TELLS OIL COMPANIES "GET YOUR CONSUMER (RETAIL!) OIL PRICES DOWN, NOW!"

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) August 3, 2026

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Massive Biden energy from this guy

The world has had enough of the back and forth including Israel who basically told the US to pound sand. We had our chance

The Fall Guy said:

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Trump getting schooled by Iran. Mad that the US is out of talks with Iran and Oman on the SOH. Just went on another rant

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Live rant or on truth social?

Link or post by chance?

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The Fall Guy said:

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Trump getting schooled by Iran. Mad that the US is out of talks with Iran and Oman on the SOH. Just went on another rant

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Live rant or on truth social?

Link or post by chance?

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https://aje.news/mcmsi9?update=4826526

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The Fall Guy said:

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Trump getting schooled by Iran. Mad that the US is out of talks with Iran and Oman on the SOH. Just went on another rant

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Live rant or on truth social?

Link or post by chance?

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Trump has been on multiple media platforms telling his frustration with Iran and saying they wont come back to the table. Yes above is from Iran but they are gleefully enjoying seeing Trump get upset. They know this gets his goat

Last chance Iran. For the umpteenth time.

https://aje.news/mcmsi9?update=4826746

Oh now Iran has a new deadline of tomorrow to open the SOH. Lol. This is out of hand.

https://aje.news/mcmsi9?update=4826743

Crowdsourcing ideas is a funny idea. I would put down that wacky "tie incendiary bombs to bats" scheme we tested in WW2.

BREAKING: US CENTCOM sent an email to a broad group of military analysts last week saying "we are looking for new creative and unconventional ways to pressure and punish Iran" because "we need ideas," per CNN.

A source close to CENTCOM says "CENTCOM is looking at everything,…

— The Hormuz Letter (@HormuzLetter) August 3, 2026

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Crowdsourcing ideas is a funny idea. I would put down that wacky "tie incendiary bombs to bats" scheme we tested in WW2.

BREAKING: US CENTCOM sent an email to a broad group of military analysts last week saying "we are looking for new creative and unconventional ways to pressure and punish Iran" because "we need ideas," per CNN.

A source close to CENTCOM says "CENTCOM is looking at everything,…

— The Hormuz Letter (@HormuzLetter) August 3, 2026

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thats totally legitimate.

Considering the sources (Hormuz Letter and CNN), you have to assume this is fake until someone legitimate corroborates.

Source is CNN, Jerusalem Post also reported it. At this point I wouldn't be shocked if it was true.

CNN link:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/03/politics/us-military-iran-war-troops-punish

"We are looking for new creative and unconventional ways to pressure and punish Iran," an officer in US Central Command's intelligence branch wrote in a message sent Wednesday to a broad group of military analysts, according to a source familiar with the message. A second source also said that a senior US military officer sent the message last week soliciting new ideas for how to deal with Iran.

The crowdsourcing-style query, which military officials said was unusual over email, is one sign of the limited and potentially unpalatable options available to Trump to force Iran into a deal on his terms. Hoping to find an alternative, the official at CENTCOM kicked off the brainstorming session via email to see if anyone had a better idea. The second source said CENTCOM is looking at everything, acknowledging it needs to reevaluate the strategy.

"U.S. Central Command has a long history of thinking and working in innovative ways," Capt. Timothy Hawkins, a spokesperson for CENTCOM, said in a statement. "Admiral Cooper, in particular, reaches out to members of our great team, regardless of rank, to achieve the highest levels of operational performance possible."

The email preceded Trump's threat to launch new strikes against Iran, only to call them off over the weekend after regional officials namely Saudi Arabia's crown prince intervened by calling the president and urging him to de-escalate."

Seems like a spokesman for CENTCOM confirmed it in a statement.

PaulsBunions said:

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Seems like a spokesman for CENTCOM confirmed it in a statement.

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If so, I actually have no issue with them doing this. They should exhaust all avenues. I asked my team all the way down to interns for ideas all of the time

However, I do think for this particular issue they aren't going to find any new ideas that will work. My idea for them would be to leave.

I am, of course, no expert in such matters.

It seems to me the best way to get oil prices down and resolve the Iran problem is to finish the job and stop with the peace talk breaks. The Ayatollah's government isn't going to stop until they have killed all the Jews and the rest of the infidel like us. So peace talks are a waste of time. Blow Iran's infrastructure away and increase oil production out of Venezuela and the USA and elsewhere to make up the difference in lost Iranian production.

Haleyscomet50 said:

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Rubio is Israel first. That's if you believe Trump that Rubio was bought and paid for by Addlesons.. It's also if you believe the leaked emails from Israel Americans that said Rubio was bought and paid for and had been vetted by Israel. Wont be enough fox news boomers left for him to get the nomination. Same goes for Desantis. The blowback from this war will change the party.

Some may not want to believe it but Vance believes it. He will do anything to win not sure what he stands for but you can bet he will go with the position that gives him the best chance of winning. Watch his actions if you want to see where the party is heading Vance is a smart guy an old school politian with no real views just whatever gives him the best chance of winning. He knows America first Israel last is going to sale in 28.

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Larry Ellison has given Rubio millions over the years for his various campaigns and has been the largest single donor on several. This has been reported on by multiple folks, I believe I heard it from Greenwald most recently. Larry Ellison is Israel first - he donates millions to the IDF. This to me, is a clear signal, Rubio is bought and paid for by Israel.

Greenwald

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Source is CNN, Jerusalem Post also reported it. At this point I wouldn't be shocked if it was true.

CNN link:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/03/politics/us-military-iran-war-troops-punish

"We are looking for new creative and unconventional ways to pressure and punish Iran," an officer in US Central Command's intelligence branch wrote in a message sent Wednesday to a broad group of military analysts, according to a source familiar with the message. A second source also said that a senior US military officer sent the message last week soliciting new ideas for how to deal with Iran.

The crowdsourcing-style query, which military officials said was unusual over email, is one sign of the limited and potentially unpalatable options available to Trump to force Iran into a deal on his terms. Hoping to find an alternative, the official at CENTCOM kicked off the brainstorming session via email to see if anyone had a better idea. The second source said CENTCOM is looking at everything, acknowledging it needs to reevaluate the strategy.

"U.S. Central Command has a long history of thinking and working in innovative ways," Capt. Timothy Hawkins, a spokesperson for CENTCOM, said in a statement. "Admiral Cooper, in particular, reaches out to members of our great team, regardless of rank, to achieve the highest levels of operational performance possible."

The email preceded Trump's threat to launch new strikes against Iran, only to call them off over the weekend after regional officials namely Saudi Arabia's crown prince intervened by calling the president and urging him to de-escalate."

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Its honestly crazy when you really think about it. Our Plan A was huge airstrikes and targeted assassinations. Obviously the plan was that the regime would fall. (Remember, at the time Trump was confident after the Venezuela thing). Plan A failed. There was no Plan B. Now we are asking for a 1.5 trillion military budget? You just have to laugh otherwise you would go insane.