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Good point. Their intent with 460 kilotons of 60% enriched uranium was to display it in the peace museum.

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It is kilograms not kilotons.

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Seems like we couldn't ignore the fact that the Iranians told us to our face that they still had the means and intent to get nukes after we blew up their facilities.

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That's was reported. But I don't understand if that was really true why would the Iranians disclose this in the initial negotiations? They finally achieved their decades old dream and then they disclose it in negotiations. Why?

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Iran has never claimed the intent to build a bomb

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Wow. It's bright in here today. The gas has been lit!

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Seems like we couldn't ignore the fact that the Iranians told us to our face that they still had the means and intent to get nukes after we blew up their facilities.

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That's was reported. But I don't understand if that was really true why would the Iranians disclose this in the initial negotiations? They finally achieved their decades old dream and then they disclose it in negotiations. Why?

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Iran has never claimed the intent to build a bomb

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Wow.

This is a nation that has been the driving force behind much of the world-wide terrorist events since 1979. This is a nation that is known for wanting death for its primary enemies, the US and Israel.

Are you trying to say that because they may or may not have made a claim regarding their intentions with all that uranium, that they really didn't want a bomb?

Of course these psychos want a bomb. And like the Germans and Japanese in WWII, they will use it if they get it.

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You can speculate intent if you'd like. I was responding to YouBets claim that they have openly admitted intent to build a nuke, which is an incorrect claim. On the contrary, they have persistently denied the intent to build a nuke since 2003 I believe.

The Iranians are not backward goat herders. They are actually a pretty intelligent people if you look at average IQ. If they actually intended to build nukes, they could have done so many years ago. No, Mossad was not thwarting them at exactly the right time over the decades.

So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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But why would they disclose it when they were so close to finally achieving the goal?

Also Vance said on Fox yesterday that the uranium was buried in operation midnight hammer.

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I don't doubt that the uranium was buried in midnight hammer.

I also have no doubt that, if left alone, the mullahs will dig all that uranium out and get right back to their psychotic journey toward a bomb.

But libs will be content with this, since, well, reasons.

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Seems like we couldn't ignore the fact that the Iranians told us to our face that they still had the means and intent to get nukes after we blew up their facilities.

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That's was reported. But I don't understand if that was really true why would the Iranians disclose this in the initial negotiations? They finally achieved their decades old dream and then they disclose it in negotiations. Why?

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Iran has never claimed the intent to build a bomb

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Wow.

This is a nation that has been the driving force behind much of the world-wide terrorist events since 1979. This is a nation that is known for wanting death for its primary enemies, the US and Israel.

Are you trying to say that because they may or may not have made a claim regarding their intentions with all that uranium, that they really didn't want a bomb?

Of course these psychos want a bomb. And like the Germans and Japanese in WWII, they will use it if they get it.

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You can speculate intent if you'd like. I was responding to YouBets claim that they have openly admitted intent to build a nuke, which is an incorrect claim. On the contrary, they have persistently denied the intent to build a nuke since 2003 I believe.

The Iranians are not backward goat herders. They are actually a pretty intelligent people if you look at average IQ. If they actually intended to build nukes, they could have done so many years ago. No, Mossad was not thwarting them at exactly the right time over the decades.

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It's amazing how many pretzels you can contort into depending on the point of Iran you are trying to dismiss, and so many of them are mutually exclusive.

So Iran is perfectly capable of developing nukes anytime they want, but they haven't technically said they were, so obviously they weren't, and the fact that they were enriching uranium past the point of any use OTHER than nukes makes no difference... None of those things jive together with any of your assertions that Iran is just a peaceful country minding its own business when those dastardly Jews drug us into a war with them.

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Seems like we couldn't ignore the fact that the Iranians told us to our face that they still had the means and intent to get nukes after we blew up their facilities.

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That's was reported. But I don't understand if that was really true why would the Iranians disclose this in the initial negotiations? They finally achieved their decades old dream and then they disclose it in negotiations. Why?

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Iran has never claimed the intent to build a bomb

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Wow.

This is a nation that has been the driving force behind much of the world-wide terrorist events since 1979. This is a nation that is known for wanting death for its primary enemies, the US and Israel.

Are you trying to say that because they may or may not have made a claim regarding their intentions with all that uranium, that they really didn't want a bomb?

Of course these psychos want a bomb. And like the Germans and Japanese in WWII, they will use it if they get it.

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You can speculate intent if you'd like. I was responding to YouBets claim that they have openly admitted intent to build a nuke, which is an incorrect claim. On the contrary, they have persistently denied the intent to build a nuke since 2003 I believe.

The Iranians are not backward goat herders. They are actually a pretty intelligent people if you look at average IQ. If they actually intended to build nukes, they could have done so many years ago. No, Mossad was not thwarting them at exactly the right time over the decades.

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Preach on with your al-Taqiyaa.

They have always intended to develop a bomb. Obama made sure of that.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/22/hardline-lawmakers-demand-nuclear-bomb-as-iran-braces-for-un-sanctions

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

It's al-Taqiya regurgitated by an Iranian sympathizer.

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Seems like we couldn't ignore the fact that the Iranians told us to our face that they still had the means and intent to get nukes after we blew up their facilities.

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That's was reported. But I don't understand if that was really true why would the Iranians disclose this in the initial negotiations? They finally achieved their decades old dream and then they disclose it in negotiations. Why?

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Iran has never claimed the intent to build a bomb

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Wow.

This is a nation that has been the driving force behind much of the world-wide terrorist events since 1979. This is a nation that is known for wanting death for its primary enemies, the US and Israel.

Are you trying to say that because they may or may not have made a claim regarding their intentions with all that uranium, that they really didn't want a bomb?

Of course these psychos want a bomb. And like the Germans and Japanese in WWII, they will use it if they get it.

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You can speculate intent if you'd like. I was responding to YouBets claim that they have openly admitted intent to build a nuke, which is an incorrect claim. On the contrary, they have persistently denied the intent to build a nuke since 2003 I believe.

The Iranians are not backward goat herders. They are actually a pretty intelligent people if you look at average IQ. If they actually intended to build nukes, they could have done so many years ago. No, Mossad was not thwarting them at exactly the right time over the decades.

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I've never said they were backward goat herders.

Let me pose this thought for you - given their intelligence, which you pointed out, do you think that maybe since 2003 they have told the world what the world wanted to hear while working toward building that bomb?

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Seems like we couldn't ignore the fact that the Iranians told us to our face that they still had the means and intent to get nukes after we blew up their facilities.

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That's was reported. But I don't understand if that was really true why would the Iranians disclose this in the initial negotiations? They finally achieved their decades old dream and then they disclose it in negotiations. Why?

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Iran has never claimed the intent to build a bomb

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Hey guys - Timothy McVeigh never claimed the intent to blow up the OKC federal building before he did it. Perfectly ok for him to build a giant bomb.

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2280046-goats-were-first-domesticated-in-western-iran-10000-years-ago/

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

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I don't recall the president saying we were two weeks away from an imminent threat from missiles and drones? I think I recall it was 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

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I don't recall the president saying we were two weeks away from an imminent threat from missiles and drones? I think I recall it was 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

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The only people saying "2 weeks from a nuclear bomb" are people arguing against it. The president never said anything of the sort.

I’ve been rewatching Homeland. It’s terrifying how prophetic this show was.

Here’s a scene of Peter Quinn briefing congress on what the Islamist jihadist mindset is like, and how utterly ineffective the American NatSec strategy is for containing it. pic.twitter.com/G3HoEEGfWg

— Brianna Wu (@BriannaWu) April 14, 2026

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

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I don't recall the president saying we were two weeks away from an imminent threat from missiles and drones? I think I recall it was 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

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The only people saying "2 weeks from a nuclear bomb" are people arguing against it. The president never said anything of the sort.

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Sorry he didn't say "bomb".

He said if we didn't hit in 2 weeks they would have had a nuclear weapon.

How if now Vance is saying the uranium is buried after midnight hammer?

Trump's Venezuelan coup and the Strait of Hormuz blockade, plus his drill baby drill domestic policy, put the USA in control of 36% of the world's oil production. That includes 20% of China's oil consumption. So if China withholds rare earths, no oil. If China invades Taiwan, no oil. If Iran does something we don't like, they don't sell any oil. The world needs the USA now to get oil and the ME (except Saudi) needs us to sell oil.

Trump has accomplished the biggest global realignment of power in my lifetime.

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

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I don't recall the president saying we were two weeks away from an imminent threat from missiles and drones? I think I recall it was 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

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The only people saying "2 weeks from a nuclear bomb" are people arguing against it. The president never said anything of the sort.

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Sorry he didn't say "bomb".

He said if we didn't hit in 2 weeks they would have had a nuclear weapon.

How if now Vance is saying the uranium is buried after midnight hammer?

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Citation, please. I can't find this anywhere.

Remember last week when every podcaster posted Iran’s 10 point plan, saying that the US lost the war and agreed to it?

How about when they said Netanyahu was dead?

Or when they said oil would be $160 per barrel?

They’ve lied about literally everything.

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) April 14, 2026

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-places-10-million-bounty-on-head-of-leader-of-iraqs-kataeb-hezbollah/

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The US State Department issues a $10 million reward for the leader of an Iran-backed militia in Iraq.

The bounty is placed on Ahmad al-Hamidawi, secretary general of the Iran-backed militia Kataeb Hezbollah.

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Dang. Don't have to die to get the 72 virgins with that kind of cash.

Here
Describes the definition of "enriched", what it is and can be used for, and the threshold for weapons.

How Much 20 Percent Enriched Uranium Does Iran Possess? By David Albright and Sarah Burkhard April 9, 2026

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Um so Midnight Hammer was June 22nd 2025, that is more than 2 weeks to dig it up. So yeah.....

And they said they were two weeks away from 90% and being able to make a bomb. Not two weeks away from a bomb..........

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AI Overview



Most commercial nuclear power reactors require uranium to be enriched to 3%5% U-235, known as Low-Enriched Uranium (LEU). While natural uranium contains only 0.7% of the fissionable isotope, this enrichment process increases the concentration to sustain a controlled chain reaction. Some advanced reactors may require Higher-Assay LEU (HALEU) up to 20%.
World Nuclear Association +4
Key Enrichment Details for Power Production:

• Typical Commercial Fuel: 35% U-235 (Light Water Reactors - PWR/BWR).
• Advanced Reactors (HALEU): 5%19.75% U-235.
• Natural Uranium Reactors: Some reactor designs, such as CANDU, can use natural uranium (0.7% U-235) without enrichment, but these require heavy water as a moderator.
• Low Enriched Uranium (LEU): Defined as anything below 20% U-235.
  Department of Energy (.gov) +3

Enrichment is necessary to create a sustainable, efficient fission process in most modern reactor designs. Highly enriched uranium (above 20% U-235) is generally reserved for research reactors, naval propulsion, or nuclear weapons.

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So it looks to me like anything over 20% is only used for one thing.
They already admitted that they'll stop for 5 years but the US wants 20.
Sounds like they've already admitted they have the stuff.

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

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I don't recall the president saying we were two weeks away from an imminent threat from missiles and drones? I think I recall it was 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

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The only people saying "2 weeks from a nuclear bomb" are people arguing against it. The president never said anything of the sort.

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Sorry he didn't say "bomb".

He said if we didn't hit in 2 weeks they would have had a nuclear weapon.

How if now Vance is saying the uranium is buried after midnight hammer?

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Citation, please. I can't find this anywhere.

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I just went to YouTube and searched

PBS news hour came up with title Trump claims of US didn't hit within 2 weeks Iran would have had a nuclear weapon.

He specifically said that for the first bombing and the recent attack on Iran.

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Um so Midnight Hammer was June 22nd 2025, that is more than 2 weeks to dig it up. So yeah.....

And they said they were two weeks away from 90% and being able to make a bomb. Not two weeks away from a bomb..........

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Vance said yesterday that it's buried and from midnight hammer.

Can somebody describe to me a plausible path to an acceptable outcome? It looks to me like we gambled on quick regime collapse, didn't get it, and now find ourselves stuck in a position where all the opposition has to do is not collapse + launch a few missiles in order to force us to accept a worse situation than we had before. We're trying to salvage it by blockading the strait and causing pain for Iran and the whole world, but I don't see how we go from that to a "win" (whatever "win" means in this situation).

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

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I don't recall the president saying we were two weeks away from an imminent threat from missiles and drones? I think I recall it was 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

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The only people saying "2 weeks from a nuclear bomb" are people arguing against it. The president never said anything of the sort.

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Sorry he didn't say "bomb".

He said if we didn't hit in 2 weeks they would have had a nuclear weapon.

How if now Vance is saying the uranium is buried after midnight hammer?

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Citation, please. I can't find this anywhere.

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I just went to YouTube and searched

PBS news hour came up with title Trump claims of US didn't hit within 2 weeks Iran would have had a nuclear weapon.

He specifically said that for the first bombing and the recent attack on Iran.

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Right, I hate to be the wording Nazi, but those are 2 separate things, "If we didn't hit within 2 weeks, they would get a nuclear weapon" implies a window of opportunity to disrupt. Not "They would have a nuclear weapon within 2 weeks". Agreed that it sounds similar, but it is not what you are implying it is.

It's not being a word nazi. It's an important and huge distinction.!

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OF COURSE WE KNEW~!~

Trump has been discussing this for months now.

we know the "dust" as POTUS calls it is buried deep at Isfahan and Natanz

the problem is the Islamic Republic pushed tons of dirt onto the entrances to the buried facilities

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Can somebody describe to me a plausible path to an acceptable outcome? It looks to me like we gambled on quick regime collapse, didn't get it, and now find ourselves stuck in a position where all the opposition has to do is not collapse + launch a few missiles in order to force us to accept a worse situation than we had before. We're trying to salvage it by blockading the strait and causing pain for Iran and the whole world, but I don't see how we go from that to a "win" (whatever "win" means in this situation).

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We're not blockading the strait and causing pain for the whole world. Iran IS causing the whole world pain for threatening traffic in the strait. And we are blockading Iran from using the strait until they stop.

I get you, but by blockading any ship coming from or heading to an Iranian port, we're also causing pain for fence sitters (eg China).

In any case, my main concern is it looks to me like we're in a situation where we can cause Iran pain, but Iran can plunge the whole world into a recession. All Iran has to do to maintain that ability is survive; their military can continue to be completely feckless so long as a few drones and missiles work per day.

What's the plausible path to getting from those position to some sort of W? The Iranian regime is proud and maniacally idealistic, and we just killed their leader, possibly his successor, and who knows how many other leaders. How do we get them to accept something they don't like?

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So what did Vance mean yesterday when he said the uranium is buried after midnight hammer? So we knew this the whole time?

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What is the difference if it was buried or not? It doesn't change the fact that they have it

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Because we were told it was an imminent threat. Yet now we are being told it's buried. So they were going to dig it up and in a few weeks make a bomb?

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Who said the enriched uranium was an imminent threat?

I know the MISSILES and DRONES were.

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I don't recall the president saying we were two weeks away from an imminent threat from missiles and drones? I think I recall it was 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

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The only people saying "2 weeks from a nuclear bomb" are people arguing against it. The president never said anything of the sort.

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Sorry he didn't say "bomb".

He said if we didn't hit in 2 weeks they would have had a nuclear weapon.

How if now Vance is saying the uranium is buried after midnight hammer?

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Citation, please. I can't find this anywhere.

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I just went to YouTube and searched

PBS news hour came up with title Trump claims of US didn't hit within 2 weeks Iran would have had a nuclear weapon.

He specifically said that for the first bombing and the recent attack on Iran.

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Right, I hate to be the wording Nazi, but those are 2 separate things, "If we didn't hit within 2 weeks, they would get a nuclear weapon" implies a window of opportunity to disrupt. Not "They would have a nuclear weapon within 2 weeks". Agreed that it sounds similar, but it is not what you are implying it is.

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I have no idea what you are trying to say? You said before he never said "anything of the sort". Then a citation was needed and now instead of "anything of the sort" it is the word nazi approach.

I was just saying what I the president said himself. It's also been said we had an imminent threat.

Trump and the administration are the ones with a messaging problem. Not us. From day one they can't explain anything in sync.

So back to my general question how was it an imminent threat if it's been buried since midnight hammer? It just doesn't make sense with what they have said.