As Americans face higher electric bills (cause AI), Trump is blocking power generatio

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shiftyandquick
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from hundreds of wind and solar projects already in progress.

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More than 60 large wind and solar farms under development on federal lands, such as Jackalope Wind, are being stymied. But the administration is also holding up hundreds of wind and solar projects on private land that require federal consultations. Many projects are facing potentially fatal delays, according to interviews with more than a dozen energy companies, industry groups and analysts.


The electricity apocalypse because of AI is arriving soon. We need all the power we can get. But Trump is blocking this kind of power generation because he has it in his mind that he gets to pick the winners and losers. And he is picking coal.

So when you are gaping at your power bill. And the democrats control the house/Senate/White House, just remember that was one of the reasons.

Instead of unleashing American ingenuity, Trump is holding it back.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projects.html
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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Ahahahaha! This is lame even for a leftist
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Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

How dare you bring facts into a leftist emotional rant.
Learn about the Texas Nationalist Movement
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Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

QED on first reply
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A liberal whining about power generation after decades of forcing the closing of coal plants and endlessly delaying and bloating the expense of nuke plants is wild.

But "Reagan Republican" of course…
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Oh NO! Propaganda out of NYC doesn't like Trump!

Stopping the subsidies for non-dispatchable generation actually SAVES money. "Renewables" require "non-renewable" redundant infrastructure, which means double the capital cost just to save some of the fuel costs.

Any "green" advocate who hasn't come to terms that the greenest generation backbone is Nukes + Natural Gas is an absolute moran.
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The NY Times...hahahahahahahahahahaha...quick breath.....hahahahahahaha.

Urban Ag
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liberals crying because "we need all the power we can get"

Just 14 months ago you wanted desperately to ban fossil fuels.

They still hate nuclear.


I swear, if Trump decided he was pro abortion the left would demand abortion was banned in all 50 states and US territories.

LMAO

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Lol at the OP! Always wrong. Always.
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"Next on MSNow, fascist Trump opposes federal investment into perpetual motion machines, keeping you from having unlimited free power and driving up your power bill."
shiftyandquick
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Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

Big Government "conservatism". You have not answered why the government is blocking private projects from private companies on private land.

There aren't many actual conservatives left.
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You need to slow down and be less shifty...
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Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.


You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards
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Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

And to add onto this, Trump (Administration) has signed off on multiple new fossil fuel power plants.

So, all around, you **** the bed completely on this gotcha, as usual. dullandslow strikes again.
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Remember when NY banned a new gas pipe line because of "climate change" despite the fact that NY would be flirting with a power production disaster by doing so?

Remember a couple of months ago when Hochul quietly rescinded that ban and is now pursuing that pipeline because reality slapped them in the face that without fossil fuels you can't power anything?

Remember?
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Which of those projects were/are expected to offer lower rates to the utilities/networks vs. the current ones?
BTKAG97
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One can argue Texas' current energy problems exist because of the push for solar and wind.

Though wasn't the "Texas Freeze" blackout mostly due to frozen natural gas lines?

Regardless, the move AWAY from coal and nuclear will continue to be a detriment to continued reliable energy generation in Texas.
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GAC06 said:

Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.


You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

Natural gas is running at ~10% of the its capacity right now.

We were forced to build a ton of quick start gas plants because of 2021.

The battery storage is to help prevent grid collapse like we saw in 2021 when several plants tripped offline causing a cascade of failures when the power frequency rapidly dropped. Power storage can instantly respond to prevent a similar failure.

Wind and solar are simply not reliable baseload. Bring in a good cold front and one or the other, or both, will be running at almost 0% and we have to then bring all the gas plants online.
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Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA. I'm helping regular people see the truth.
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Hey GreenClaude, I'm having trouble heating the house during this cold snap since we switched over to solar. The sun hasn't been out in several days and we only can afford battery backup for about 12 hours. Is it safe to burn vegan free range gluten free rice cakes in the fireplace to help us warm up?

Sorry for the trouble you're having. Unfortunately Anthropic has reallocated all GreenClaude generative capacity to their own use during this manmade climate change weather event. Please try back later when the sun is shining and we'll be able to have a conversation about the vegan free range gluten free rice cakes as a fuel source.
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GAC06 said:

Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.
The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.


You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards


Show us the numbers during a 3 day freeze
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Teslag said:

A liberal whining about power generation after decades of forcing the closing of coal plants and endlessly delaying and bloating the expense of nuke plants is wild.

But "Reagan Republican" of course…

Great point. The hypocrisy of the left is astounding but constant on almost all issues.
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shiftyandquick said:

Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA. I'm helping regular people see the truth.
So you agree the DOE should be closed to prevent the federal government from interfering in private enterprise?
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shiftyandquick said:

Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA. I'm helping regular people see the truth.

If you have ever been around an area where solar and wind projects are being proposed, you would understand how not "private" these projects are.
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shiftyandquick said:

Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA. I'm helping regular people see the truth.

^ completely ignores the utter destruction brought on the EU economy by the environmental lobby.

MAGA will not allow that to happen.

I don't intend to convince anyone on the Left. I'm helping regular people here see the truth.
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shiftyandquick said:

Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA. I'm helping regular people see the truth.

If you were really interested in helping regular people see the truth, you would have honed in here.

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But the administration is also holding up hundreds of wind and solar projects on private land that require federal consultations.

Big government is a problem when 1) the party you like is not in control and 2) the party you like is in control.

If you want to help regular people, question the need for ANY federal consultation. Not just the fact that Trump is using the power of government (and I doubt it is much of a stretch to assume this power has been used to stop oil drilling by the need for federal consultations) to his advantage.
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Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.


EOT
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Rapier108 said:

GAC06 said:

Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.


You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

Natural gas is running at ~10% of the its capacity right now.

We were forced to build a ton of quick start gas plants because of 2021.

The battery storage is to help prevent grid collapse like we saw in 2021 when several plants tipped offline causing a cascade of failures when the power frequency rapidly dropped. Power storage can instantly respond to prevent a similar failure.

Wind and solar are simply not reliable baseload. Bring in a good cold front and one or the other, or both, will be running at almost 0% and we have to then bring all the gas plants online.

Spot on. The decreased solar and wind development is due to the subsidies and tax breaks going away. Suprise, these renewable products cannot stand on their own financially at a residential or utility scale. Most of the renewable developers are shifting to batteries. Batteries are great, but as stated above you need more base loading resources. Most batteries are good for 2 hours and then they are done.
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I work in the renewables industry but even I say that small-scale nuclear is a better/more reliable option than wind and solar.

But as long as they keep paying the bills......
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shiftyandquick said:

Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA (that is, sane people). I'm helping regular people (that is, insane far-leftists) see the truth (according to the Democrat Party. All hail the Party).
FIFY.
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shiftyandquick said:

from hundreds of wind and solar projects already in progress.

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More than 60 large wind and solar farms under development on federal lands, such as Jackalope Wind, are being stymied. But the administration is also holding up hundreds of wind and solar projects on private land that require federal consultations. Many projects are facing potentially fatal delays, according to interviews with more than a dozen energy companies, industry groups and analysts.


The electricity apocalypse because of AI is arriving soon. We need all the power we can get. But Trump is blocking this kind of power generation because he has it in his mind that he gets to pick the winners and losers. And he is picking coal.

So when you are gaping at your power bill. And the democrats control the house/Senate/White House, just remember that was one of the reasons.

Instead of unleashing American ingenuity, Trump is holding it back.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projects.html


Power from wind and solar costs more than power from natural gas or coal. If you are wanting to lower electric bills, you should be against more wind and solar projects and for more natural gas and coal. hth
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samurai_science said:

GAC06 said:

Rapier108 said:

Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.
The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.


You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards


Show us the numbers during a 3 day freeze


If you're actually interested, this describes it pretty well

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/news/2026/02/09/energy-experts-say-battery-storage-helped-texas-grid-during-january-freeze-
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shiftyandquick said:

Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA. I'm helping regular people see the truth.

If you mean "destroy" as in forcing them to survive on their own in the marketplace without government subsidies tilting the playing field in their favor, then yes, I am very much in favor of that. If you mean "destroy" in terms of not letting them use government subsidies to buy solar panels made in China, then yes, I am also in favor of that.
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Quote:

from hundreds of wind and solar projects already in progress.

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Quote:
More than 60 large wind and solar farms under development on federal lands, such as Jackalope Wind, are being stymied. But the administration is also holding up hundreds of wind and solar projects on private land that require federal consultations. Many projects are facing potentially fatal delays, according to interviews with more than a dozen energy companies, industry groups and analysts.



The electricity apocalypse because of AI is arriving soon. We need all the power we can get. But Trump is blocking this kind of power generation because he has it in his mind that he gets to pick the winners and losers. And he is picking coal.

So when you are gaping at your power bill. And the democrats control the house/Senate/White House, just remember that was one of the reasons.

Instead of unleashing American ingenuity, Trump is holding it back.

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
 
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