***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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Maybe this is a footnote on the one pager or part of the redline draft????

Today, unfortunately, many Americans have good reason to fear that they will be victimized if they are unable to protect themselves. And today, no less than in 1791, the Second Amendment guarantees their right to do so. - Justice Samuel Alito 2022
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So the tractor beam is operational. Most best Trump!

Strategy for the dust is pretty straightforward. We will bomb you and starve you until you hand it over, or we will do the bombing until there is no one left to stop us from coming in and getting it ourselves.

Please signal your intentions.
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He has to have a iron tight agreement that is miles above Obamas or its a failure, we cant come away spending 100 Billions just to get back to what we had or less.
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I wonder how much effort is being made to communicate with or get info to the Iranian citizenry?

Seems that would be pretty important. Starlink, anything?
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Successful for some, but not us.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

I wonder how much effort is being made to communicate with or get info to the Iranian citizenry?

Seems that would be pretty important. Starlink, anything?

We need a massive country wide leaflet drop.
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[Do not repost derails that we removed -- Staff]
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Burpelson said:

He has to have a iron tight agreement that is miles above Obamas or its a failure, we cant come away spending 100 Billions just to get back to what we had or less.

Midnight Hammer, Epic Fury and Economic Fury are all miles above loading a 767 freighter full of cash to fund drones, missiles and Houthihamahezbollahs.
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Rockdoc said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

I wonder how much effort is being made to communicate with or get info to the Iranian citizenry?

Seems that would be pretty important. Starlink, anything?

We need a massive country wide leaflet drop.

Watched a series on that included a bit on our leaflet dropping over Germany and other areas during WWII.

I would think the modern day version consists of mass texting and hacking state run media. Some of which has happened already.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Yep, their one chip to play which is terrorize the strait will actually just lead to the world finding alternatives that further cut off Iran. This is the way.

This, Danny is right as usual. Pipeline are already being proposed and now they'll be built- given the Gulf states are really pissed. So may people here assume "The doom !!! Oh no. More doom !!! Some how thinking that we can't counter punch too.

I bet you 90 to nothing, the Gulf States cut back on skyscraper show-pieces and start building pipelines and the air defense systems to protect them. The straight is about to get some competition but it will take time
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Jack Squat 83 said:

I wonder how much effort is being made to communicate with or get info to the Iranian citizenry?

Seems that would be pretty important. Starlink, anything?

Yeah, and maybe some guns, lots of guns. I wonder the the IRC would enjoy a mass insurrection to go along with an occasional culling of their militarily hardware and leadership. Play dirty hit them hard and hit them where they cant rest. And ht them with little to no fan-fair or media
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For Starlink, outside of being very hard to get one smuggled in and its likely been a bullet to the head for having one, certainly over the past 60 days, the Iranian Islamic regime has been both focused and capable at jamming what few devices are there and are being risked being used.

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Technical and operational disruption: Iran jams Starlink signals using GPS spoofing, radio-frequency jamming, and other electronic warfare tactics (sometimes military-grade, possibly with foreign help). This is especially aggressive during internet shutdowns, causing high packet loss (3080%+) and degrading or cutting service. Low-Earth orbit (LEO) satellites like Starlink's are more vulnerable to such interference than geostationary ones.


If I had one hidden, I may be waiting until there is an uprising before pulling it out. Both for being able to actually use it and less risk of having your family euthanized for it.
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Project Freedom is about to be Project FAFO if dip**** doesn't shut up.
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Gaeilge said:



Project Freedom is about to be Project FAFO if dip**** doesn't shut up.

Looks like somebody didn't learn the Maduro lesson about taunting Trump...
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Realism suggests IRGC is in control of the country. The President's optimism for a deal is a negotiating tactic: posit success make the other side reject, justifying next steps.

The President is facing criticism from the left and from some in his own party, including
"it's taking too long [to take down one of the 11th ranked military in the world]; "
"it's a foreign (or Israeli) war;"
"the messaging on objectives is incomplete, contradictory;"
"this military action violates the War Powers Act."
"it's increasing the price of everything."

Declaring a successful conclusion to Operation Epic Fury and Iran's agreement might answer, to a substantial degree, these complaints.

The interim also allows increased intelligence activity for and sets a rationale for the next military action if Iran continues it's nuclear program, re-development of offensive capabilities, asserting national dominion over the Strait, or support for terrorism.
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They've been taunting Trump (us) for a month.
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Game on?
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Believe half what you see the IRGC do and none of what they say. They have a several thousand year head start on us in bravado and swaying public sentiment with words. When they say they're interested in negotiating it's likely a lie. When they say they won't negotiate they are likely doing just that.
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It's been a mostly peaceful ceasefire
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Burpelson said:

He has to have a iron tight agreement that is miles above Obamas or its a failure, we cant come away spending 100 Billions just to get back to what we had or less.


I guarantee Iran will never get back what they had. Because they are dead. Or it is blownd up.
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PGAG said:

Believe half what you see the IRGC do and none of what they say. They have a several thousand year head start on us in bravado and swaying public sentiment with words. When they say they're interested in negotiating it's likely a lie. When they say they won't negotiate they are likely doing just that.


This is a great point. If history holds, any deal will also involve payment of money to them as most late Roman and Byzantine treaties did, they will characterise it in the way most favorable to them (we paid a tribute or damages to them or a payment for peace) and then in a few years they will break the treaty. It's a historical pattern that spans different regimes pre and post Islam that have ruled Persia/Iran.
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I can guarantee you Trump isn't giving them any money like Obama.
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I think part of the deal should be to reimburse us for our expenses to get them to capitulate and agree to the nuke dust and open the strait and then we back off but not far!!
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Rockdoc said:

I can guarantee you Trump isn't giving them any money like Obama.


If the Axios report had any truth to it, we were to release 10 billion in frozen assets. So it may not be new money, and technically theirs, but it's money they don't currently have.
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Gaeilge said:



Game on?

That should put an end to the cease fire...
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Flavius Agximus said:

Rockdoc said:

I can guarantee you Trump isn't giving them any money like Obama.


If the Axios report had any truth to it, we were to release 10 billion in frozen assets. So it may not be new money, and technically theirs, but it's money they don't currently have.

Yes their money. If he lets them have it. Trump will probably send them a bill for that amount.
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Rockdoc said:

I can guarantee you Trump isn't giving them any money like Obama.


We won't give them money that wasn't theirs at some point, but we will absolutely be unfreezing Iranian assets as part of a deal. It'll be phased and structured, but it will absolutely happen.
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txags92 said:


That should put an end to the cease fire...


Not yet. See, that was faction 27 of the IRGC and their actions aren't sanctioned by the feaux president of the week. So even though they blew up some of our **** and wasted millions of dollars in defense weapons, this attack really doesn't count towards the ceasefire.
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ErnestEndeavor said:




If anyone with supposed authority in Iran agrees to that deal, they'll never, ever, ever honor it.
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They won't honor ANY deal. Honor is not in them.
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Rockdoc said:

They won't honor ANY deal. Honor is not in them.

But bullets will be. We aren't that problem, the Mossad who has been following them for years, are their problem.

I always knew Mossad were bad ass but when I deeper dive into how they do their ops I was not only impressed but gobsmacked. Damn! They are good at what they do.
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Yes they're very good at what they do. And they haven't been sitting on their hands for the last few weeks. You can bet they have something cooking.
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Rockdoc said:

Yes they're very good at what they do. And they haven't been sitting on their hands for the last few weeks. You can bet they have something cooking.

Judging from my research, those pots have been simmering on the stove a long time.

I'm sure our CIA field agents are good. But I have doubts they are as patient as Mossad agents.
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