***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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japantiger
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Iran had between 97 and 118 ships in their Navy pre-war. Most of what is left are small patrol craft.
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AggieMac06
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Wonder if the Kilos are still operational? They are the only thing I would be afraid of.
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Yukon Cornelius
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What's left to target?
QuatroLong
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It's a country of 92 million and a $400 billion gdp. Lots to deal with there if the government leverages that economy to create a massive terror machine.
Dan Scott
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If the goal is regime change, at this point, I think the civilian infrastructure. Last night it looked like power stations were hit. Iranian TV is still broadcasting and they are still able to send SMS and make calls via landline.
Texas12&0
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Me thinks they may have to select another Supreme Leader.
Dan Scott
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[Do not derail this military action thread with political news. Take it to the other thread -- Staff]
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[We are going to keep this thread cleaned up for breaking news and discussion about the ongoing military conflict. Please take the discussion on political ramifications to this thread https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3597662 Also, take the jokes and funny memes to another thread and don't clutter this one for posters who want to engage on the thread topic -- Staff]
gougler08
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ErnestEndeavor said:






Feels like there might have been some truth to the mining thing if we started blowing up the tiny boats soon after
2wealfth Man
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If the straits have in fact been mined, you boys might want to load up on energy(LNG) and fertilizer stocks. Prices going much higher from here.
normaleagle05
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Pretty sure we were planning on blowing up the small boats anyway. They're just the targets that remain.
Hogties
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Except they are all docked when hit. Wouldn't you expect to see some mine laying boats, ya know, actually laying mines. I would assume we could see a John boat leaving dock and would certainly be tracking it. My guess is this was to calm down the oil markets with a "we got this" kind of video release.
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Gaeilge
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Theoretically, couldn't they use the drones as essentially escorts for the ships and go in front of them as they're passing through the Strait?
txags92
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Gaeilge said:

Theoretically, couldn't they use the drones as essentially escorts for the ships and go in front of them as they're passing through the Strait?

For mine avoidance or targeting fast boats coming after the ships? I would assume they are laying submerged proximity mines these days and not floating contact mines. But who knows.
ttu_85
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QuatroLong said:

It's a country of 92 million and a $400 billion gdp. Lots to deal with there if the government leverages that economy to create a massive terror machine.

Wow $400 Billion with 92 million people? Thats like half of states like Georgia, w/ $858B or NC at $818B. And that with only 11 million people each. We had better hope the South doesn't rise again. Joking aside that Iran number is less than I expected.
nortex97
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Yeah it's not 'well run' for the people. Almost half that GDP flows through the IRGC too.

I don't think laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz is likely to be a strategic success for Iran's governance.
lb3
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Yukon Cornelius said:

What's left to target?
Iran is larger than Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana combined and twice the population.
Mathguy64
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nortex97 said:

Yeah it's not 'well run' for the people. Almost half that GDP flows through the IRGC too.

I don't think laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz is likely to be a strategic success for Iran's governance.


Those aren't so much mine laying boats as fishing trawlers and sport boats.

Adios mofos.
Yukon Cornelius
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Ok. That doesn't answer the question
ttu_85
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lb3 said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

What's left to target?

Iran is larger than Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana combined and twice the population.

Yeah and 1/8th the GDP. with most of that concentrated in Tehran and along the gulf. Still your point stands given many of the launchers are hidden in the mountains. That said their production centers are probably well documented and targeted or already a smoking pile of rubble.
MattAg84
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nortex97 said:

Yeah it's not 'well run' for the people. Almost half that GDP flows through the IRGC too.

I don't think laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz is likely to be a strategic success for Iran's governance.

Being a mine layer ship captain is probably about to be as lucrative and long lasting of a employment opportunity as "new Supreme Leader"
C/O 2007
Yukon Cornelius
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And I'm wondering what's left to bomb in Tehran which was the reportI responded to. Wondering what's left type of targets are getting hit.
JB!98
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If the 22's are flying into Iran with drop tanks, then it is further evidence that Iran has no Iranian radar coverage left and that it is a very low threat environment. Drop tanks on a F-22 or F-35 are a sign they are not worried about stealth.
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GAC06
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JB!98 said:



If the 22's are flying into Iran with drop tanks, then it is further evidence that Iran has no Iranian radar coverage left and that it is a very low threat environment. Drop tanks on a F-22 or F-35 are a sign they are not worried about stealth.


Not necessarily. It could be for an unlikely CAP mission that frees up tanker assets elsewhere. If we weren't worried about stealth you'd see F-22's going home.
samurai_science
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Hogties said:

Except they are all docked when hit. Wouldn't you expect to see some mine laying boats, ya know, actually laying mines. I would assume we could see a John boat leaving dock and would certainly be tracking it. My guess is this was to calm down the oil markets with a "we got this" kind of video release.

Because the mine laying reports are fake news.
JB!98
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GAC06 said:

JB!98 said:



If the 22's are flying into Iran with drop tanks, then it is further evidence that Iran has no Iranian radar coverage left and that it is a very low threat environment. Drop tanks on a F-22 or F-35 are a sign they are not worried about stealth.


Not necessarily. It could be for an unlikely CAP mission that frees up tanker assets elsewhere. If we weren't worried about stealth you'd see F-22's going home.

Fair point.
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wtmartinaggie
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do you just think that or do you have some sort of reference point?

both sides are controlling the messaging to the audience, but i think a claim like that needs backup. the regime has been planning for this for a long time. they have an in-depth transition/power continuity plan to keep the irgc in power, knew this was a possibility, and understand ecomomic blackmail/pain is the best card they have to play.

we've dealt a catastrophic blow, for sure. to underestimate an enemy with fanatical zealots at the helm and the time to prepare they've had at this point would be repeating the mistakes of the past.
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ErnestEndeavor
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New satellite imagery of the few remaining Tomcats.
samurai_science
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wtmartinaggie said:

do you just think that or do you have some sort of reference point?

both sides are controlling the messaging to the audience, but i think a claim like that needs backup. the regime has been planning for this for a long time. they have an in-depth transition/power continuity plan to keep the irgc in power, knew this was a possibility, and understand ecomomic blackmail/pain is the best card they have to play.

we've dealt a catastrophic blow, for sure. to underestimate an enemy with fanatical zealots at the helm and the time to prepare they've had at this point would be repeating the mistakes of the past.

I dont need to back it up. CBS made the claim that mining was ongoing from "sources".
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