***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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On the question of likely oil prices after the Iran war ends, Russia and China have competing interests. Ditto, today's status quo.

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[We've been very clear about driving by this thread simply to troll and spread hyper negativity. Your timeouts will increase in length every time you do it -- Staff]
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Heavy explosions reported near kharg possibly due to attack on oil tankers.
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Jock 07 said:

Heavy explosions reported near kharg possibly due to attack on oil tankers.


Heating more explosions on the mainland also
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Wasn't one of the Arab countries (Saudi?) that has been hit vowing to retaliate?
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flown-the-coop said:

Wasn't one of the Arab countries (Saudi?) that has been hit vowing to retaliate?


Yes and Pakistan said they would help.if Saudis attacked. That wont happen.
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Just read we hit more oil tankers off Kharg and near Oman
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The Fall Guy said:

Just read we hit more oil tankers off Kharg and near Oman

In response to another ballistic anti-ship missile attack. Attacks on our carrier group may be more than just goofy "hail-Mary" attacks many believe. And yes, Iran may be receiving critical intel and tech from either/both China and Russia.
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Iran Launched Undisclosed Second Wave of Attacks on U.S. Navy Ships
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Iran launched an attack against U.S. Navy ships on Monday that the U.S. military has yet to acknowledge, according to U.S. officials, after firing ballistic missiles at an aircraft carrier and a guided-missile destroyer over the weekend.

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Iranian officials have claimed they are using new missiles with advanced features to target the American warships, according to Iran's state media. Such missiles could have electro-optical seekers, which enable them to maneuver toward a moving target using imagery, weapons analysts say.

However, Iran would still need to know the approximate location of U.S. warships when its attacks began, raising concerns that China and Russia could be helping Iran track the locations of American warships, officials said.

The fact that Iran is able to target warships at all after the U.S. degraded its ability to see the battlefield is a key concern, according to retired Vice Adm. John "Fozzie" Miller, who commanded U.S. naval forces in the Middle East. "They don't really have the capacity to reach out and find someone out in the Arabian Sea on radar any longer," he said.

Iran last year unveiled a medium-range ballistic missile known as the Qassem Bassir that uses seeker technology, according to John Caves, senior research associate at the Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control. Other Iranian missiles, like the Khalij Fars, also have the technology, he said.

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Throwing ASBM at a carrier carries a risk. They could hit it. And if they did, the Dogs of War get unleashed.

I'm trying to imagine the response if they draw to the inside straight of all inside straights and hit a carrier. It won't be blowing a hole in a tank on Kharg.
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Mathguy64 said:

Throwing ASBM at a carrier carries a risk. They could hit it. And if they did, the Dogs of War get unleashed.

I'm trying to imagine the response if they draw to the inside straight of all inside straights and hit a carrier. It won't be blowing a hole in a tank on Kharg.

Something like that would also invite a response against the Russian and Chinese satellite assets that enabled it as well, you would think, even if that response was cyber in nature.
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flashplayer said:

Mathguy64 said:

Throwing ASBM at a carrier carries a risk. They could hit it. And if they did, the Dogs of War get unleashed.

I'm trying to imagine the response if they draw to the inside straight of all inside straights and hit a carrier. It won't be blowing a hole in a tank on Kharg.

Something like that would also invite a response against the Russian and Chinese satellite assets that enabled it as well, you would think, even if that response was cyber in nature.

Yeah a mysterious fire onboard China's new carrier not out of the question either.
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Careful we don't want to start WWIII. Cutting Japan off from US Oil and our scrap metal resulted in Pearl Harbor.
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last several hours are seeing Yemeni Government / Saudis / CIA / Mossad / UAE forces beating the hell out of the Houthis all over western Yemen.
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Centcom just posted they hit 5 crude oil carriers of Iran's.
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LMCane said:

last several hours are seeing Yemeni Government / Saudis / CIA / Mossad / UAE forces beating the hell out of the Houthis all over western Yemen.


UAE is going in also?
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Iran shooting missiles at Jordan now. JAordanian and Syrian forces downing the missles.

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That would be odd considering the UAE was sponsoring a different group in Yemen that the Saudis bombed a few months ago. There's some disagreement over Yemen within Arab circles but this could be a situation of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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The US has confirmed Iran was able to recover a defective Anduril submersible drone. They state there was no sensitive or secret equipment on board.
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Brett Baer on Fox report Bahrain as well with "most" intercepted but no indication it was not "all". He made note that these clustered barrages have not been seem in a while. 40 missiles fired by Iran per Hugh Hewitt.
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True? I dunno, but encouraging if so.
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More missles being intercepted over Jordan
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Mathguy64 said:

Throwing ASBM at a carrier carries a risk. They could hit it. And if they did, the Dogs of War get unleashed.

I'm trying to imagine the response if they draw to the inside straight of all inside straights and hit a carrier. It won't be blowing a hole in a tank on Kharg.

I starred you but that is absolutely the incorrect analysis

the IRGC would LOVE to hit one of our fleet carriers and cause as many American casualties as possible-

it would be devastating to the GOP in the midterm elections, would put out of action a major launching pad for US Navy attacks against Iran, and would lead to a larger war

all things the IRGC wants
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nortex97 said:


True? I dunno, but encouraging if so.

it's true but not necessarily dispositive

the western side of Yemen is where all the actual people live.

the Saudi Air Force and F-15SA need to get into the fight and start carpet bombing the Houthi convoys of Toyata Hilux technical trucks
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Iran launched a ton of missiles toward our forces in Jordan I read. Things aren't going well though for the mullahs. We also hit Kharg Island apparently.

They desperately want to hit a USN ship and apparently are incapable of doing so.
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No deadly impacts but caution with obnoxious arabic/music on the video.

I'd say less than 1 in 10 chance the above is true.
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It appears Iran's inability to re-supply the Houthi's is becoming a real 'multiplier' of sorts to the Yemeni/Saudi(?) forces moving on them.

As Hemmingway once put it 'gradually, and then suddenly.' Or something like that.

Quit talking and just do it. Or, heck, recognize the Houthi's for what they are, IRGC proxies, and strike some neighborhoods in the north of Tehran.
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Yes Pakistan needs to stop talking and do what their pact with the Saudis says.
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flown-the-coop said:

Brett Baer on Fox report Bahrain as well with "most" intercepted but no indication it was not "all". He made note that these clustered barrages have not been seem in a while. 40 missiles fired by Iran per Hugh Hewitt.


the IRGC mostly used cluster munition warheads against the Israelis because the IDF was so good at shooting down a standard ballistic missile

the positive is that the cluster bombs are MUCH smaller and do much less damage than a regular warhead smashing into one of our bases.

they are area strikes rather than targeted strikes.
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Pincer attack where the IDF needs to keep pushing north towards Beirut and overrun the last of the Hizbullah strongholds.

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I think the insinuation was a grouping of missiles and not a clustered warhead.

Either way, IRGC pissing on the bear with outdated spray and receiving a foot beating for it.

Agree with your post earlier on the big downside of Iran getting a lucky strike on a US asset.

We shall see what today holds.
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Explosions heard from Iranian city of Jask
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Seems like this is more attacks on Iran crude tankers.
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