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So they shot down a drone last week and chopper this week. I was never for this war and want it to end but Trump cant continue to make us look weak. Seems like they have made some serious upgrade on air defense systems.

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Based on knocking down a helicopter and drone? Probably the only two flights we dared make over Iran and they got BOTH of them. 100% kill rate. Most awesome Iran?

Exactly how did you arrive at us looking "weak" because we don't drop a nuke when a toy is broken.

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Keeping it war related for mods. When you have to use drone boats because you don't want to get other aircraft knocked out of the sky thats not what winning looks like. I want us to win but wanting and doing its is 2 different things. Iran is dictating conditions because they are knocking our planes out of the sky and we cant transition the strait. Thats not what winning looks like.

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Remember the lesson from the film Saving Private Ryan - is one man's (in this case, two men's lives) worth the lives of several others? Yeah, we could send in live assets to recover those airmen, but with all the live fire still going on, it's likely that we lose additional personnel. Trump is not making us look weak in recovering our guys by using drone boats here.

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If they control that much of the strait when we have the worlds best everything we do look weak. All our technogy firepower we spend hundreds of billions on and we can't control a area that small it doesn't make us look strong. I would think we could put a end to that live fire pretty quickly. Since we have already won and they have no army navy or air force we should be able to control everything especially international waters.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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So they shot down a drone last week and chopper this week. I was never for this war and want it to end but Trump cant continue to make us look weak. Seems like they have made some serious upgrade on air defense systems.

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Based on knocking down a helicopter and drone? Probably the only two flights we dared make over Iran and they got BOTH of them. 100% kill rate. Most awesome Iran?

Exactly how did you arrive at us looking "weak" because we don't drop a nuke when a toy is broken.

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Keeping it war related for mods. When you have to use drone boats because you don't want to get other aircraft knocked out of the sky thats not what winning looks like. I want us to win but wanting and doing its is 2 different things. Iran is dictating conditions because they are knocking our planes out of the sky and we cant transition the strait. Thats not what winning looks like.

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Remember the lesson from the film Saving Private Ryan - is one man's (in this case, two men's lives) worth the lives of several others? Yeah, we could send in live assets to recover those airmen, but with all the live fire still going on, it's likely that we lose additional personnel. Trump is not making us look weak in recovering our guys by using drone boats here.

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If they control that much of the strait when we have the worlds best everything we do look weak. All our technogy firepower we spend hundreds of billions on and we can't control a area that small it doesn't make us look strong. I would think we could put a end to that live fire pretty quickly. Since we have already won and they have no army navy or air force we should be able to control everything especially international waters.

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Cheap but effective drones are the great equalizer. They will gladly trade ubiquitous $20,000 drones for scarce multi million dollar defensive missiles.

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Iran firing missiles at Bahrain and Kuwait

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Enough is enough. It's time to respond in a most unproportional way. It is the only thing the Islamic regime understands.

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This tired rhetoric needs to be retired here. It's not going to happen. That is abundantly clear at this point, for reasons real and imagined.

I won't blame Trump entirely though. I would give him a benefit of a doubt of at least being misinformed about Iran's ability to resist when he ordered the campaign start. I don't think that misinformation was intentional obviously, but the effects are the same regardless. Out analysts grossly misjudged this situation completely. It's not the first time. nor will it be the last. Trump then shoulders his decisions fully from that first day onwards though.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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So they shot down a drone last week and chopper this week. I was never for this war and want it to end but Trump cant continue to make us look weak. Seems like they have made some serious upgrade on air defense systems.

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Based on knocking down a helicopter and drone? Probably the only two flights we dared make over Iran and they got BOTH of them. 100% kill rate. Most awesome Iran?

Exactly how did you arrive at us looking "weak" because we don't drop a nuke when a toy is broken.

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Keeping it war related for mods. When you have to use drone boats because you don't want to get other aircraft knocked out of the sky thats not what winning looks like. I want us to win but wanting and doing its is 2 different things. Iran is dictating conditions because they are knocking our planes out of the sky and we cant transition the strait. Thats not what winning looks like.

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Remember the lesson from the film Saving Private Ryan - is one man's (in this case, two men's lives) worth the lives of several others? Yeah, we could send in live assets to recover those airmen, but with all the live fire still going on, it's likely that we lose additional personnel. Trump is not making us look weak in recovering our guys by using drone boats here.

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If they control that much of the strait when we have the worlds best everything we do look weak. All our technogy firepower we spend hundreds of billions on and we can't control a area that small it doesn't make us look strong. I would think we could put a end to that live fire pretty quickly. Since we have already won and they have no army navy or air force we should be able to control everything especially international waters.

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Cheap but effective drones are the great equalizer. They will gladly trade ubiquitous $20,000 drones for scarce multi million dollar defensive missiles.

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I have been screaming at a brick wall about this for years it feels like. We are the mightiest military this world has ever known, bar none. We are also the most absurdly expensive military ever known, bar known.

Our model of civilian owned and developed MIC is a massive two edged sword. It works well for us because of our absurd economy, but then it prioritizes profits over everything else. Only our societies desire to drive down our casualties have truly allowed the MIC to push the envelope in technology. But that tech advantage comes with a price in cost obviously, but also lead time. Which is even more important at certain times.

We are both in a good spot, and not in a good spot with our military. It's getting better but **** me, it takes forever to shift and procure.

IRAN’S POWER COLLAPSES, TRUMP DECLARES

Trump says Iran’s military has been decisively defeated, claiming much of its navy and air force no longer effectively exist. He calls Iran “all talk and no action” and declares the country’s role as the “Bully of the Middle East” is over.…

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) June 10, 2026

looks like a good potential target to me

Undisclosed Small Centrifuge Facility at Fordow Support Site?
 
We recently learned from a trusted colleague about reporting about enrichment related reconstruction activities at the Fordow enrichment site, information we were unable to confirm. This led us to look more broadly… pic.twitter.com/WZn7gF52Eb

— David Albright (@DAVIDHALBRIGHT1) June 10, 2026

Let's see if he actually does anything.

President Donald J. Trump in a post on Truth Social has declared that Iran has "taken too long to negotiate a deal that would've been great for them, now they will pay the price!!!" pic.twitter.com/LDiM9IlKht

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 10, 2026

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Let's see if he actually does anything.

President Donald J. Trump in a post on Truth Social has declared that Iran has "taken too long to negotiate a deal that would've been great for them, now they will pay the price!!!" pic.twitter.com/LDiM9IlKht

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 10, 2026

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He will do nothing. Just another veiled threat

ENCOURAGING!! Hopefully these attacks from Bandar Abbas have been crushing all resistance to transit through the Gulf

Come on POTUS Trump don't back down for the 27th time now:

pic.twitter.com/3wfggfeEo2

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 10, 2026

would not want to be anyone named Ma'amen in the Gaza Strip today!

David Albright is a true hero and patriot who keeps after the Iranian nuclear program like a honey badger

it must be frustrating as @#@# for him the past twenty years that no one listens to him until now.

I can't understand how there is a SINGLE building still standing at these nuclear sites. we keep hitting pin*****s on one or two important buildings-

when we should be carpet bombing the entire site with B-2 and B-52 so not a single cinderblock is still intact

make the IRGC rebuild even the mess halls from scratch!

ISRAEL SAID TO PREPARING STRIKING IRAN AGAIN

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) June 10, 2026

There is never a time when Israel is NOT preparing to strike Iran. Been that way for 47 years for sure and more like 80+.

Walter Bloomberg with more incredible takes.

WATCH: IRGC air defense shooting down a U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drone. pic.twitter.com/1hSTCOGD4g

— Clash Report (@clashreport) June 10, 2026

BREAKING: President Trump exclusively tells @TreyYingst that the U.S. is getting close to ordering new strikes against Iranian power plants and bridges in response to “tapping the United States along” when it comes to drawn out negotiations.

The U.S. launched overnight strikes… pic.twitter.com/Eh3zZBWh7q

— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 10, 2026

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Let's see if he actually does anything.

President Donald J. Trump in a post on Truth Social has declared that Iran has "taken too long to negotiate a deal that would've been great for them, now they will pay the price!!!" pic.twitter.com/LDiM9IlKht

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 10, 2026

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I will be surprised if anything more than a wrist slap occurs. Everything since the start of the "ceasefire" has been to create a "deal", not to accomplish anything substantive. Threats, inducements, making Israel back off, economic squeeze, public posturing, all seem to force and sweet talk the IRGC to making a deal they almost certainly will not abide by. The Art of the Deal is what really matters, not making any kind of real change.

the one positive is that for each SAM battery we take out- that is one less the IDF has to deal with next time

and for every ballistic missile fired, that is one less the Islamic Republic has in the inventory as it should be very hard for them to manufacture additional munitions now

those are minor positives. until it proves out in reality that they have nothing to fire back with, take down our helicopters with, or stop harassing the SoH with, it won't be that meaningful.

Until he actually acts, Trump is nothing but hot air at this point

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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So they shot down a drone last week and chopper this week. I was never for this war and want it to end but Trump cant continue to make us look weak. Seems like they have made some serious upgrade on air defense systems.

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Based on knocking down a helicopter and drone? Probably the only two flights we dared make over Iran and they got BOTH of them. 100% kill rate. Most awesome Iran?

Exactly how did you arrive at us looking "weak" because we don't drop a nuke when a toy is broken.

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Keeping it war related for mods. When you have to use drone boats because you don't want to get other aircraft knocked out of the sky thats not what winning looks like. I want us to win but wanting and doing its is 2 different things. Iran is dictating conditions because they are knocking our planes out of the sky and we cant transition the strait. Thats not what winning looks like.

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Remember the lesson from the film Saving Private Ryan - is one man's (in this case, two men's lives) worth the lives of several others? Yeah, we could send in live assets to recover those airmen, but with all the live fire still going on, it's likely that we lose additional personnel. Trump is not making us look weak in recovering our guys by using drone boats here.

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If they control that much of the strait when we have the worlds best everything we do look weak. All our technogy firepower we spend hundreds of billions on and we can't control a area that small it doesn't make us look strong. I would think we could put a end to that live fire pretty quickly. Since we have already won and they have no army navy or air force we should be able to control everything especially international waters.

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Its not about the small island, is the fact there are hundreds of miles of coastline that only require 3 dudes and weekend trip to bass pro shop to rig up something that will shut down the straight.

And that requires boots on ground to solve.

I think Trumps biggest blunder here is just waiting. Time is on the iranian side. Every day the globe drains an emergency reserve of oil to keep the economy chugging along. Trump just sitting idle means hes not going to do anything until the reserves run dry.

Trump sees this time as the 'last opportunity for peace' before the whole apple cart gets upset. Iran sees this as just biding their time, once the global reserves run out, Iran gets a better negotiating position as oil spikes to $150+.

Global reserves are not running out.

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So they shot down a drone last week and chopper this week. I was never for this war and want it to end but Trump cant continue to make us look weak. Seems like they have made some serious upgrade on air defense systems.

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Based on knocking down a helicopter and drone? Probably the only two flights we dared make over Iran and they got BOTH of them. 100% kill rate. Most awesome Iran?

Exactly how did you arrive at us looking "weak" because we don't drop a nuke when a toy is broken.

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Keeping it war related for mods. When you have to use drone boats because you don't want to get other aircraft knocked out of the sky thats not what winning looks like. I want us to win but wanting and doing its is 2 different things. Iran is dictating conditions because they are knocking our planes out of the sky and we cant transition the strait. Thats not what winning looks like.

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Remember the lesson from the film Saving Private Ryan - is one man's (in this case, two men's lives) worth the lives of several others? Yeah, we could send in live assets to recover those airmen, but with all the live fire still going on, it's likely that we lose additional personnel. Trump is not making us look weak in recovering our guys by using drone boats here.

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If they control that much of the strait when we have the worlds best everything we do look weak. All our technogy firepower we spend hundreds of billions on and we can't control a area that small it doesn't make us look strong. I would think we could put a end to that live fire pretty quickly. Since we have already won and they have no army navy or air force we should be able to control everything especially international waters.

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Its not about the small island, is the fact there are hundreds of miles of coastline that only require 3 dudes and weekend trip to bass pro shop to rig up something that will shut down the straight.

And that requires boots on ground to solve.

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Now, take out the bridges, fuel depots, and electrical power, and see how the dudes do.

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Global reserves are not running out.

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We are drawing 8 million barrels a week from the strategic oil reserve to keep the global economy afloat last time I looked. There's a couple articles about China's very opaque oil reserves are acting as a proper buffer but no one has any idea of their run rate. We are very much using global oil reserves to keep the price of the last barrel of oil that has to clear the market at a reasonable level.

Edit with chart published this morning. Yeah dude we've blasted through 20% of the SPR and there is strong consensus that below the 300,000,000 barrel mark you risk structural issues to the formations. I.E-you're not allowed to pull those unless for very very very good reasons.

So expect SPR to taper off helping over the summer.

🇺🇸 U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) stocks fall to lowest since 2023 pic.twitter.com/N14ibuUsiu

— Hedgeye (@Hedgeye) June 10, 2026

President Trump Just Revealed the Incredible Bravery of the Two Apache Pilots Attacked by Iran Over the Strait of Hormuz.

An Iranian drone packed full of explosive ordnance slammed into their helicopter, got lodged between the two pilots, and by the grace of God, it didn't… pic.twitter.com/9czaQAD60P

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) June 10, 2026

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An Iranian drone packed full of explosive ordnance slammed into their helicopter, got lodged between the two pilots, and by the grace of God, it didn't detonate.

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So they shot down a drone last week and chopper this week. I was never for this war and want it to end but Trump cant continue to make us look weak. Seems like they have made some serious upgrade on air defense systems.

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Based on knocking down a helicopter and drone? Probably the only two flights we dared make over Iran and they got BOTH of them. 100% kill rate. Most awesome Iran?

Exactly how did you arrive at us looking "weak" because we don't drop a nuke when a toy is broken.

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Keeping it war related for mods. When you have to use drone boats because you don't want to get other aircraft knocked out of the sky thats not what winning looks like. I want us to win but wanting and doing its is 2 different things. Iran is dictating conditions because they are knocking our planes out of the sky and we cant transition the strait. Thats not what winning looks like.

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Remember the lesson from the film Saving Private Ryan - is one man's (in this case, two men's lives) worth the lives of several others? Yeah, we could send in live assets to recover those airmen, but with all the live fire still going on, it's likely that we lose additional personnel. Trump is not making us look weak in recovering our guys by using drone boats here.

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If they control that much of the strait when we have the worlds best everything we do look weak. All our technogy firepower we spend hundreds of billions on and we can't control a area that small it doesn't make us look strong. I would think we could put a end to that live fire pretty quickly. Since we have already won and they have no army navy or air force we should be able to control everything especially international waters.

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Its not about the small island, is the fact there are hundreds of miles of coastline that only require 3 dudes and weekend trip to bass pro shop to rig up something that will shut down the straight.

And that requires boots on ground to solve.

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Now, take out the bridges, fuel depots, and electrical power, and see how the dudes do.

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Right, I agree. Its just an escalation that you can't easily extract yourself from. There seems to be a view that the current situation we can easily extract ourselves from but taking out that infrastructure and widening the scope of war is a bridge too far.

WE ARE ALWAYS WATCHING

🔻تدمير بنى تحتية إرهابية استُخدمت لتشغيل طائرات مسيّرة مفخخة ضد قواتنا: قوات قوات وحدة الاستطلاع 869 تواصل نشاطها في جنوب لبنان

🔻تواصل وحدة الاستطلاع (869) التابعة للفرقة 91 العمل لإزالة التهديدات الموجهة ضد دولة إسرائيل. وتعمل الوحدة في مجال جمع المعلومات الاستخبارية، وتوجيه… pic.twitter.com/zOXfSEtYhd

— Lieutenant Colonel Ella Waweya | إيلا واوية (@CaptainElla1) June 10, 2026

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Destruction of terrorist infrastructure used to operate explosive drones against our forces: The forces of Reconnaissance Unit 869 continue their activity in southern Lebanon

Reconnaissance Unit (869), affiliated with the 91st Division, continues to operate to remove threats directed against the State of Israel. The unit operates in the field of intelligence gathering, fire direction, and executing attacks by means of observation and surveillance.

Over the past two weeks, the forces, in cooperation with the Air Force, eliminated more than 20 saboteurs who worked to advance terrorist plots and posed a threat to our forces. In addition, the forces destroyed a number of terrorist infrastructures, including buildings used by saboteurs of the terrorist organization Hezbollah to operate explosive drones against our forces.

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I have been actively watching and engaged in this theater for about 20 years now. I have many Iranian friends and a few of them fairly high level.

I have bit of different take as to what is going on here than most.

I don't think Trump has become soft or stupid in the last 50 days or so. LOL

I think there are things going on under the rind that few know about. And that's all I am going to say on this matter.

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I have been actively watching and engaged in this theater for about 20 years now. I have many Iranian friends and a few of them fairly high level.

I have bit of different take as to what is going on here than most.

I don't think Trump has become soft or stupid in the last 50 days or so. LOL

I think there are things going on under the rind that few know about. And that's all I am going to say on this matter.

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Agree….. things come to light when we want them to….. like the secret airbase we had in Iran…..


The paratroopers stationed in Isreal…..


And likely….. the next clandestine mission that we hear about 24 hours after the fact….


Just saying.

We had a secret base in Iran? I remember hearing about Israel having one in Iraq, but wasn't aware of ours.

Probably unrelated, but I just watched CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt leave the San Diego harbor...

Trump LITERALLY just stated maybe 15 minutes ago

"we hit them last night and we are going to hit them again tonight"

talk about CALLING YOUR SHOT

Time to do more and talk less about it. Hurt them where they will feel it.

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) has announced that U.S. forces have disabled the eighth ship in support of the U.S. naval blockade of Iran last night at 11:14pm E.T. by firing on the Palau-flagged motor tanker 'Settebello' in the Gulf of Oman following the vessel's refusal to… pic.twitter.com/qfEQzWT6Bq

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 10, 2026

Isn't brine pumped into the storage caverns to displace the crude? Damaging the formation doesn't make sense.