***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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Gaeilge
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The Fall Guy
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Sigh... this will never end in my lifetime.

Kick Ass Seabass
MJ20/20
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MJ20/20 said:

It's pretty clear that Trump has pre determined that he is not going to reengage Iran on any significant scale. Now he is grasping for a positive shred of a win to ride off into the sunset on (pinky swear).

No regime change aka IRGC remaining intact, is a poor strategic approach to peace in the region.


Rinse and repeat I don't claim to know why President Trump is so adverse to taking Iran head on, and I'm sure he has damn good reasons, but his actions indicate he is done with any significant scale engagement.
The Fall Guy
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I think it is ironic. US and Israel hit Iran hard. Now soft and letting them reload. Also mad at Israel for hitting Hezbohla in Beirut who shot first last night. Now Trump says he is not happy with Israel doing that. Why are we negotiating with terrorists.? Negotiate with Iran and let Israel and Lebanon deal with Hezbohla. He keeps saying a deal is almost done. No deal will ve done with Iran. Stop trying to find a way out. Grow some balls. Dont suck them up into the sack.
SA68AG
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Trump has gone from strong and decisive to weak and indecisive. He's all talk and no action now and the mullahs
are acting accordingly.

He totally misread our military's ability to control the strait.
The Fall Guy
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SA68AG said:

Trump has gone from strong and decisive to weak and indecisive. He's all talk and no action now and the mullahs
are acting accordingly.

He totally misread our military's ability to control the strait.


100 percent correct.
Jack Squat 83
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SA68AG said:

Trump has gone from strong and decisive to weak and indecisive. He's all talk and no action now and the mullahs
are acting accordingly.

He totally misread our military's ability to control the strait.


Have no clue, but I will predict Trump has a plan in place. He is way too unpredictable but the man usually gets things right. Additionally unlike the last Admin, the people around him aren't distracted or laser-focused on DEI or who's sleeping with who, they are true military and diplomatic leaders IMO.

We'll have to wait and see, I could definitely be wrong.
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This goes on as long as both sides believe they can win.
Mathguy64
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Not sure what else Bibi can say. He can't let Iran or their proxy lob missiles at them.
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The Fall Guy said:

SA68AG said:

Trump has gone from strong and decisive to weak and indecisive. He's all talk and no action now and the mullahs
are acting accordingly.

He totally misread our military's ability to control the strait.


100 percent correct.


From a big picture perspective, the instability of the SOH is long term playing into our advantage, especially when taking China into account. Short term pain, very tangible and long term gain. Time for China. Europe and the rest of the world without a long term plan to wake up.

China is in a real bind. Europe and much of Asia is in a bind of their own making.

I have little doubt we could control the straight if our existence and economy relied upon it As it currently stands, It does not.
Texaguser17
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From what I can tell Israel broke the cease by bombing Beirut unless I've missed something.
txaggie_08
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Hezbollah hit them first.
The Fall Guy
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Texaguser17 said:

From what I can tell Israel broke the cease by bombing Beirut unless I've missed something.


From what I saw Hezbohla fired drones and killed an IDF soldier. If Hezbohla is part of Iran like Iran says the Hezbohla broke the ceasefire. Hezbohla is a terrorist organization so doesn't matter.
Texaguser17
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I missed that in the chain of events thank you
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LMCane said:

USAF KC-46 Pegasus after taking off from Tel Aviv is now over the Arabian Gulf

that is unusual

You are well informed and we have disagreed in the past so I hate to call another poster out but this has been going on for 3 months many kc-46 have been over the gulf basically 24/ 7. I'm a avid flight radar watcher so this is absolutely not true.
The Fall Guy
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Iran attacking again

US warns Americans about missiles over Jordan right now.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-tells-its-citizens-in-jordan-to-seek-shelter-due-to-missiles-in-airspace/
MJ20/20
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I hope they annihilate each other. Bring our boys home.
Sq 17
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Texaguser17 said:

From what I can tell Israel broke the cease by bombing Beirut unless I've missed something.


FFS there is no ceasefire

It is merely politicians disseminating propaganda because pretending like there is ceasefire helps them with other political objectives
Rapier108
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"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Timberwolf
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This can't be far off from restarting
DeepETX_Aggie
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Israel going against trumps demands….
gougler08
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Bibi said they'd do it alone if needed
BBRex
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Annihilating Israel won't solve any of our problems.
MJ20/20
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Won't hurt either. Time for them to stand on their own two feet.
The Fall Guy
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Israel going against trumps demands….




His demands? Israel has every right to defend.
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gougler08 said:

Bibi said they'd do it alone if needed
Which will pull us back in the war…
The Fall Guy
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

gougler08 said:

Bibi said they'd do it alone if needed
Which will pull us back in the war…


Should have never stopped.
TexAgBolter
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Good Israel. Weak trump. Punish the regime and the economy that the IRGC controls 40% of.
The Fall Guy
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TexAgBolter said:

Good Israel. Weak trump. Punish the regime and the economy that the IRGC controls 40% of.


Time to hit the electrical grid and infrastructure like we were going to do. Go against Trumps weakness right now. This is the only way to stop them. It is not popular but I bet carpet bombing Europe or dropping the Atomic bomb was not popular either but it stopped Germany and Japan
TexAgBolter
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Seeing those neon (or led I guess) lights and pre-staged celebrations in Iran as their launched missiles fly over towards Israel makes me think that hitting their grid is way overdue.
rgag12
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[Trolling won't get you anywhere but a timeout -- Staff]
TexAgBolter
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Next moves will be interesting. Will Iran not respond? Will they hit back at just Israel? Or will they risk bringing the US back in by lashing out across the region?
Jack Squat 83
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There should be hundreds of new specific targets identified by now. Take 'em all out.
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The Fall Guy
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Israel used land based cruise missiles. That is why the US told its citizens in Jordan to take cover because of missiles overhead.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/irgc-says-israel-used-air-launched-ballistic-missiles-on-targets-in-iran/
TexAgBolter
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Sonic booms heard over Iraq so I'm sure there were glide bombs launched from Iraq as well.
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