***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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MaxPower
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In reply to Pizza • 11:58a, 4/20/26
How do we define "dual use"? Hell oil itself is dual use since you need it to fuel and lubricate military equipment.
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In reply to MaxPower • 12:00p, 4/20/26
MaxPower said:
How do we define "dual use"? Hell oil itself is dual use since you need it to fuel and lubricate military equipment.



I think anyway we want to define it. They tried to run the blockade.
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In reply to MaxPower • 12:05p, 4/20/26
Carbon fiber, high end electrical components, base units or materials to construct explosives with ex: chemical precursors etc.

Who knows tbh. I'm not there, I just sift through the available data sometimes to see if I might be able to get an idea of what the truth is...but honestly everything being put out there is designed to frame an issue, or imply something. It's hard to get quality information.
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In reply to MaxPower • 12:08p, 4/20/26
MaxPower said:
How do we define "dual use"? Hell oil itself is dual use since you need it to fuel and lubricate military equipment.


I would guess, but don't specifically know, that dual use materials are defined in the existing sanctions against Iran.

They can also be defined by treaty. For example, the Chemical Weapons Convention specifically defines and categorizes dual use chemicals that are precursors for chemical weapons production.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:10p, 4/20/26
aggiehawg said:
What is considered dual use?

Probably chips or similar electronic components if I had to guess.
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In reply to BusterAg • 12:14p, 4/20/26
BusterAg said:
So, apparently we seized a container ship that tried to break the blockade:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/20/first-thing-us-military-seizes-iran-ship-strait-of-hormuz-blockade

I like that we didn't back down, and won't allow Iranian vessels through with only a hint of potential peace negotiations. Sorry Iran, this POTUS isn't a pushover that can be controlled by the media.

If this turns into a good ole' fashion siege, where we just cut off all of Iran's money and way to make money, I predict it won't be more than a month before Iran's government starves to death.

Iran is going to have to start capping wells if they can't ship it. They have no leverage.
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12:15p, 4/20/26
Send the ship and cargo to the bottom of the ocean?
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In reply to gougler08 • 12:16p, 4/20/26
gougler08 said:
GAC06 said:
We 're negotiating because they still have what we want. The strait. The uranium.

And we need an offramp that isn't destroy their entire civilization



Do we though...
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In reply to gougler08 • 12:20p, 4/20/26
gougler08 said:
GAC06 said:
We 're negotiating because they still have what we want. The strait. The uranium.

And we need an offramp that isn't destroy their entire civilization

I think that's a perfectly viable option.

That's the ultimate conclusion of war if the losing party isn't rational
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In reply to Larry S Ross • 12:34p, 4/20/26
Larry S Ross said:
MaxPower said:
How do we define "dual use"? Hell oil itself is dual use since you need it to fuel and lubricate military equipment.



I think anyway we want to define it. They tried to run the blockade.

Bingo. They ignored orders to heave too for 6 hours and continued straight and true. If you're carrying non-blockaided civilian cargo, heave too for boarding and inspection, then be on your way.
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12:43p, 4/20/26

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In reply to BlackGold • 12:46p, 4/20/26
BlackGold said:
LMCane said:
last 36 hours from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps:

"there is no more blockade of the Straits"

"there is a blockade of the Straits"

"we won't attend negotiations in Pakistan"

"we will attend negotiations in Pakistan"

but to idiot leftists, it is America that lost and the USA that is lying.


Don't think anyone denies we BTHO Iran kinetically, but that's not the full story and it didn't end the war. They clearly have some leverage (economically) or else we wouldn't be frantically trying to reach an agreement with them to get the straight back open.


"frantically"

I think that is way overstating it. In fact, I'm not convinced we are really negotiating anything at all. We are basically demanding they surrender. There is nothing frantic about it. I have said all along that I believe this 'ceasefire' is nothing more than an opportunity to gather intelligence, reload, and give our forces a rest before resuming the attacks.
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In reply to Gaeilge • 1:31p, 4/20/26
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/iran-says-no-plans-attend-102743379.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Iran says no one is going.
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In reply to PDEMDHC • 1:31p, 4/20/26
PDEMDHC said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/iran-says-no-plans-attend-102743379.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Iran says no one is going.


Good. Let's get back to work.
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1:53p, 4/20/26
I hope they try the "fighter jet escort" again. Would be good to let the boys get a jet kill while it's actually flying.
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1:58p, 4/20/26
Shocking I say, shocking that the CCP would want to make a buck or two off of this conflict.
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In reply to Gaeilge • 2:37p, 4/20/26
Gaeilge said:



Trump: This deal is FAR better than JCPOA
Translation: This deal will look very similar to JCPOA except no cash on planes. Iran has successfully kicked the can down the road again.

Notice the things he isn't claiming anymore: No mention of uranium transfer to the US. No "zero enrichment." No "no money exchanged."
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2:38p, 4/20/26
So given we disabled it by taking out the engines, and now have boarded it, how do we get something that size to the port of our choice?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:38p, 4/20/26
aggiehawg said:
What is considered dual use?

Communications and Computer equipment is but one example. And here's some more categories from AI:

  • Drones/UAVs: Commercial agricultural or cinematography drones can be adapted for reconnaissance or surveillance
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  • Artificial Intelligence & Software: Machine learning algorithms designed for commercial data analysis can be used in battlefield intelligence, while AI-powered robotics can be utilized as autonomous systems.
  • Biometrics: Facial recognition and fingerprinting used for smartphone security are also employed in border control and military identification.
  • Aerospace & Materials: Aircraft engines, advanced materials, and high-performance computing devices often serve both civilian aviation and military hardware needs.
  • Cybersecurity & Encryption: Tools for protecting personal data or video games can be utilized to secure critical military communications.
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In reply to neil88 • 2:40p, 4/20/26
Thank you.
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2:41p, 4/20/26
It just so happens the one boat that we disabled through the blockade happens to be carrying Chinese weapon support for Iran! I'm sure that was all about sending a message to China
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:42p, 4/20/26
You're welcome. And dual use materials that can serve as defense articles, services, and technical data are within the US controlled by the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) - a stringent U.S. regulatory regime controlling the manufacture, sale, and distribution of defense-related articles, services, and technical data listed on the United States Munitions List (USML). Administered by the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC), it mandates registration, licensing, and strict access controls for foreign persons to protect national security.
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In reply to Ferg • 2:45p, 4/20/26
most likely some kind of tug
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2:52p, 4/20/26
The messaging from Iran on this negotiation is absolute schizophrenic. I understand why, but goodness. Sounds like they are going but wants the world to know it's a wink wink.
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In reply to jt2hunt • 2:57p, 4/20/26
jt2hunt said:
It just so happens the one boat that we disabled through the blockade happens to be carrying Chinese weapon support for Iran! I'm sure that was all about sending a message to China

It also could be the reason it was the one boat not complying with the blockade orders.
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3:22p, 4/20/26
As to leadership and government, it looks like that isn't AN "Iran" anymore. There's at least two. We've quit mentioning regime change, but a process like this is what it would look like.
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In reply to sts7049 • 3:24p, 4/20/26
sts7049 said:

3 or 4 F35s with some cluster bombs will make that a parking lot filled with broken boat parts in about 20 seconds... they are brave if they leave all their little boats stacked up like that...
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In reply to fullback44 • 3:26p, 4/20/26
Those are fiberglass, correct? So on the water, small signature on radar?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 3:34p, 4/20/26
aggiehawg said:
Those are fiberglass, correct? So on the water, small signature on radar?

I dont know that answer but thet are probably hard to see once on the water, but if you blow them up in the parking lot...
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In reply to fullback44 • 3:58p, 4/20/26
fullback44 said:
sts7049 said:

3 or 4 F35s with some cluster bombs will make that a parking lot filled with broken boat parts in about 20 seconds... they are brave if they leave all their little boats stacked up like that...

Send the A-10s. Make the iranians tremble with fear at the sound of the GAU-8/A avenger aka BRRRRRRRRRRRRT
Can't decide if I want to be cute & cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions.
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In reply to rgag12 • 4:20p, 4/20/26
rgag12 said:
Gaeilge said:



Trump: This deal is FAR better than JCPOA
Translation: This deal will look very similar to JCPOA except no cash on planes. Iran has successfully kicked the can down the road again.

Notice the things he isn't claiming anymore: No mention of uranium transfer to the US. No "zero enrichment." No "no money exchanged."

One thing that everyone needs to know about the Iranians AND Trump: NEVER take what they say at face value.
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In reply to fullback44 • 4:27p, 4/20/26
fullback44 said:
aggiehawg said:
Those are fiberglass, correct? So on the water, small signature on radar?

I dont know that answer but thet are probably hard to see once on the water, but if you blow them up in the parking lot...

Might be hard to see parked, but the wake shouldn't be too hard to spot.

ETA: Let's not forget what we've done to drug runner boats. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all.
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4:33p, 4/20/26
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:43p, 4/20/26
aggiehawg said:
Those are fiberglass, correct? So on the water, small signature on radar?

They probably have the same radar signature as a similar-size fishing boat ... which are easy to see with retail marine radars.
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In reply to gougler08 • 7:10p, 4/20/26
gougler08 said:
GAC06 said:
We 're negotiating because they still have what we want. The strait. The uranium.

And we need an offramp that isn't destroy their entire civilization

I don't know why people took that threat so seriously.
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