***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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PGAG
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This is a really good point imo. Since it was headed to China, no way they touch that one imo
Claude!
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Touchless said:

Iran wouldn't hit a Chinese ship. Very low risk in my opinion.


Possibly, but if it's correct that Iran has lost a lot of its command and control capabilities and individual units are making decisions whether to strike targets, they may not be thinking of things at that level.
LMCane
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how are the Iranians going to know which are "their" good ships and which are the "bad" non-Iranian supporting ships?

they can't have many radars left around Bandar Abbas

if Commie ships are able to move through the Strait- that lowers the price of world oil markets and also proves there are no minefields
LMCane
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Claude! said:

Touchless said:

Iran wouldn't hit a Chinese ship. Very low risk in my opinion.


Possibly, but if it's correct that Iran has lost a lot of its command and control capabilities and individual units are making decisions whether to strike targets, they may not be thinking of things at that level.

Trump flipped the script-

now it is the IRANIANS that want to keep the Straits open.

so why would they be shooting at ships- particularly Chinese ones?
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5Amp
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Trump controls the Straits, he determines who passes. I don't believe there are mines, just a scare tactic created by the one who controls.


The Fall Guy
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Video of Traffic thru Hormuz. 2 Iranian ships made it out while 2 ships turned around.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/tracking-service-shows-strait-of-hormuz-largely-empty-amid-us-blockade/

2026NCAggies
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ErnestEndeavor said:



We need to come back with even more demands and restrictions for them. Along with telling them the sanctions will not be lifted until they show they can honor the agreement

Make them balk again and walk away

Then bomb them for another 2 weeks and block their ships

Think I heard on Fox that if their oil is not exported within two weeks they have to start shutting down production which will crush them

We need to win this thing completely
txags92
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lb sand said:

The test was that the Iranians did nothing, not that we let it go.


The Iranians have been letting ships headed to China and India through for a while now.
2026NCAggies
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txags92 said:

lb sand said:

The test was that the Iranians did nothing, not that we let it go.


The Iranians have been letting ships headed to China and India through for a while now.

I think it is ships to Pakistan and Turkey to go with China

IDK if India is getting oil from Iran
txags92
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LMCane said:

how are the Iranians going to know which are "their" good ships and which are the "bad" non-Iranian supporting ships?

they can't have many radars left around Bandar Abbas

if Commie ships are able to move through the Strait- that lowers the price of world oil markets and also proves there are no minefields

That is why they mined (or claimed to mine) the sea lanes farther out into the strait, so that traffic is forced to come in very close to their coast and they can visually ID the ships.
txags92
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2026NCAggies said:

txags92 said:

lb sand said:

The test was that the Iranians did nothing, not that we let it go.


The Iranians have been letting ships headed to China and India through for a while now.

I think it is ships to Pakistan and Turkey to go with China

IDK if India is getting oil from Iran

I have been periodically looking at the MarineTraffic since the Strait got closed down and have seen several ships bound for India pass through the Strait. Some were tankers, but at least one was a container ship.
LMCane
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2026NCAggies said:

txags92 said:

lb sand said:

The test was that the Iranians did nothing, not that we let it go.


The Iranians have been letting ships headed to China and India through for a while now.

I think it is ships to Pakistan and Turkey to go with China

IDK if India is getting oil from Iran


definitely India was heavily involved in the Iranian oil market

not sure what the current state is under Modi the past few months
LMCane
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txags92 said:

LMCane said:

how are the Iranians going to know which are "their" good ships and which are the "bad" non-Iranian supporting ships?

they can't have many radars left around Bandar Abbas

if Commie ships are able to move through the Strait- that lowers the price of world oil markets and also proves there are no minefields

That is why they mined (or claimed to mine) the sea lanes farther out into the strait, so that traffic is forced to come in very close to their coast and they can visually ID the ships.


good point

which is why the USN is scrubbing other channels closer to Oman and the UAE for ships to use.

the larger threat is cruise missiles and drones-

if we can take out the mines and take the ships out of visual range the Islamic Republic is going to be in a world of hurt
2026NCAggies
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LMCane said:

txags92 said:

LMCane said:

how are the Iranians going to know which are "their" good ships and which are the "bad" non-Iranian supporting ships?

they can't have many radars left around Bandar Abbas

if Commie ships are able to move through the Strait- that lowers the price of world oil markets and also proves there are no minefields

That is why they mined (or claimed to mine) the sea lanes farther out into the strait, so that traffic is forced to come in very close to their coast and they can visually ID the ships.


good point

which is why the USN is scrubbing other channels closer to Oman and the UAE for ships to use.

the larger threat is cruise missiles and drones-

if we can take out the mines and take the ships out of visual range the Islamic Republic is going to be in a world of hurt

IDK if they will use missiles or drones on the strait if we are blocking their traffic and with our threat to resume bombing.

Kinda hoping they try their luck, so we and Israel can finish them off
74OA
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Here's a nice rundown of the new weaponry both sides are employing in the Gulf.

"From upgraded, extended range Iranian missiles to America's deployment of Iran-inspired drones, the deadly conflict is also a real-world munitions testing ground."

Breaking Defense article: WEAPONS
GAC06
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I wonder why they haven't gotten the Houthis to try to close the Bab al Mandeb yet, or what they're waiting for.
Gaeilge
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The Houthis don't want the full wrath of MBS
GAC06
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I'm sure they'd rather not fight if they don't have to but they already survived a war against the Saudis and various other gulf states. I'd think they know that if Iran really collapses they'll be without their only ally and for a place like Yemen that's pretty isolated.
twk
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GAC06 said:

I wonder why they haven't gotten the Houthis to try to close the Bab al Mandeb yet, or what they're waiting for.

Closing the Bab al Mandeb doesn't choke off all access to the Red Sea, the way that closing the Strait of Horumz does to the Gulf. It would certainly be a pain in the ass to Asia, having to go the long way around, but it's feasible.
The Fall Guy
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US puts 10 million bounty on Iraqi Hezbohla head.

[Url]
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-places-10-million-bounty-on-head-of-leader-of-iraqs-kataeb-hezbollah/[/url]
Deerdude
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Bet that keeps you awake at night with head on a swivel
The Fall Guy
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Lebanon and Israel agree that they need to get rid of Hezbohla occupation of Lebanon.

Holeeeee poop.

Screw you France and others!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/after-meeting-lebanese-counterpart-israeli-envoy-says-sides-united-on-ridding-hezbollah-occupation/
LMCane
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GAC06 said:

I'm sure they'd rather not fight if they don't have to but they already survived a war against the Saudis and various other gulf states. I'd think they know that if Iran really collapses they'll be without their only ally and for a place like Yemen that's pretty isolated.


Israel already killed most of the Houthi government a year ago.

The Houthis DID launch drones and a few missiles at Israel the last week of the war

supposedly USS George HW Bush has been going around the tip of South Africa rather than going through the straits of Mandeb to avoid Yemen

keep in mind that Israel was the first country in the world to recognize Somaliland last year

and the USA is now working on military bases in the new country of Somaliland

deddog
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LMCane said:

2026NCAggies said:

txags92 said:

lb sand said:

The test was that the Iranians did nothing, not that we let it go.


The Iranians have been letting ships headed to China and India through for a while now.

I think it is ships to Pakistan and Turkey to go with China

IDK if India is getting oil from Iran


definitely India was heavily involved in the Iranian oil market

not sure what the current state is under Modi the past few months

They haven't bought Iranian oil since the last Trump administration because of pressure. The Indians do have good relations with Iran though, and the Iranians have been letting Indian ships through ships loaded in different gulf states (and possibly Iran as well)

Indians are mad because Pakistan "upstaged" them by becoming negotiators between US and Iran. That kind of thing matters in the 3rd world.
deddog
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74OA said:

Here's a nice rundown of the new weaponry both sides are employing in the Gulf.

"From upgraded, extended range Iranian missiles to America's deployment of Iran-inspired drones, the deadly conflict is also a real-world munitions testing ground."

Breaking Defense article: WEAPONS

Nothing on anti drone systems. i guarantee there are a lot of new ones being tried out
74OA
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deddog said:

74OA said:

Here's a nice rundown of the new weaponry both sides are employing in the Gulf.

"From upgraded, extended range Iranian missiles to America's deployment of Iran-inspired drones, the deadly conflict is also a real-world munitions testing ground."

Breaking Defense article: WEAPONS

Nothing on anti drone systems. i guarantee there are a lot of new ones being tried out

Good point. The article is focused on offensive weaponry.
lb3
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Things about to go hot?

4
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That seems silly. A little bit of projection, perhaps?

I don't think they need to worry about their embassy being overrun in this country.
lb3
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4 said:

That seems silly. A little bit of projection, perhaps?

I don't think they need to worry about their embassy being overrun in this country.
Agree. Even if they did, razor wire isn't slowing any American determined to overrun the embassy.
txags92
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4 said:

That seems silly. A little bit of projection, perhaps?

I don't think they need to worry about their embassy being overrun in this country.

Unless they have plans elsewhere that would increase that risk. But I doubt it. Just more fuel for the narrative.
fc2112
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lb3 said:

Things about to go hot?



now, if they're burning documents at the same time - I'm worried.
4
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txags92 said:

4 said:

That seems silly. A little bit of projection, perhaps?

I don't think they need to worry about their embassy being overrun in this country.

Unless they have plans elsewhere that would increase that risk. But I doubt it. Just more fuel for the narrative.

If they had plans like that, they would just evacuate.

Assuming you are talking about direct military action or something similar?
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The Fall Guy said:

Lebanon and Israel agree that they need to get rid of Hezbohla occupation of Lebanon.

Holeeeee poop.

Screw you France and others!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/after-meeting-lebanese-counterpart-israeli-envoy-says-sides-united-on-ridding-hezbollah-occupation/

This is pretty damn big. If we can take out Iran and their proxies the world will be a much better place. Hope something comes of this.
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Quote:

The U.S. has set 2 key conditions for restarting talks with Iran in Pakistan, according to diplomatic sources.

First, the Strait of Hormuz must be fully reopened before negotiations resume.

Second, Iran's delegation must have full authority from the IRGC to finalize a deal.
agent-maroon
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Why doesn't the IRGC join the delegation so everybody can hear what they will agree to as spoken from their own lying mouths?
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