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If you haven't worked with LLMs in a CLI and orchestrated agents, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Massive change is already here. Many will be left behind, and tons of jobs that exist right now for humans wont be needed. Coding cost is a race to zero now - most dev teams will be replaced by product and one senior eng to orchestrate

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Fact. And Product and IT will meld even more. A Product person will be able to get you 80% there with AI and the Senior Engineer will get it over the finish line. Entry level coders are already extinct.

I know this because I ran Product for my startup and we implemented this model. I nixed plans for hiring Product Mgrs because I no longer needed them. Existing headcount was good using AI. We started doing dev ourselves before handing off to a Senior. And this was a few months ago and it's already progressed so far beyond when I retired that I likely wouldn't even recognize it just a few months away from it.

The original problem I had with it was that by removing entry level you removed the ability to get anyone to a Sr level later on to make this model work, but I think AI is going to progress so fast with coding that problem will dissipate. I think we actually get to a point where the Product and IT guys fully combine into one entity and you just have someone inputting the starting requirements and you just take the output and go.

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So all we need is CEOs in the future. He will buy an AI subscription, press a button and a company will pop out of it.

Profit! Billions upon billions, here I come.

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Software dev certainly will be a mostly automated process/task.

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A little bit, sure. But not how people are saying it will be. Everyone talks, no one has done it with any success in quantity and quality.

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We produced quality code with it. Our CTO moved his team full-time to Claude Code before I left. It's evolved exponentially since I left.

And I would also say, "YET". Improvements are happening at breakneck speed.

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Share details. I don't buy it.
I am pretty sure you personally profit from these rumors.

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Yeah, I don't. I walked away and retired. I no longer work there.

I simply don't understand why you and others just flat out think AI is a hoax. It's frankly humorous. I do share your concerns and some of the limitations that you point out but you seem to be wholly writing it off as something that will never amount to anything when it's already a real world thing.

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If you walked away and retired, you are likely a Boomer. Boomers can be fooled easily with tech mumbo jumbo.

I didn't say AI was a hoax. Don't lie. I am in AI myself. I am just saying it won't take over the world like Musk and other morons are predicting. It will change things, improve some areas, but not cause a catastrophe.

You are cleverly changing the goalposts.

PS: If you retired, you should be able to name the company. I want to investigate what they really do. You will not be doxxed, I don't believe in that and there is no use either.

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Mr.Milkshake said:

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If you haven't worked with LLMs in a CLI and orchestrated agents, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Massive change is already here. Many will be left behind, and tons of jobs that exist right now for humans wont be needed. Coding cost is a race to zero now - most dev teams will be replaced by product and one senior eng to orchestrate

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Fact. And Product and IT will meld even more. A Product person will be able to get you 80% there with AI and the Senior Engineer will get it over the finish line. Entry level coders are already extinct.

I know this because I ran Product for my startup and we implemented this model. I nixed plans for hiring Product Mgrs because I no longer needed them. Existing headcount was good using AI. We started doing dev ourselves before handing off to a Senior. And this was a few months ago and it's already progressed so far beyond when I retired that I likely wouldn't even recognize it just a few months away from it.

The original problem I had with it was that by removing entry level you removed the ability to get anyone to a Sr level later on to make this model work, but I think AI is going to progress so fast with coding that problem will dissipate. I think we actually get to a point where the Product and IT guys fully combine into one entity and you just have someone inputting the starting requirements and you just take the output and go.

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So all we need is CEOs in the future. He will buy an AI subscription, press a button and a company will pop out of it.

Profit! Billions upon billions, here I come.

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Software dev certainly will be a mostly automated process/task.

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A little bit, sure. But not how people are saying it will be. Everyone talks, no one has done it with any success in quantity and quality.

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We produced quality code with it. Our CTO moved his team full-time to Claude Code before I left. It's evolved exponentially since I left.

And I would also say, "YET". Improvements are happening at breakneck speed.

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Share details. I don't buy it.
I am pretty sure you personally profit from these rumors.

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Yeah, I don't. I walked away and retired. I no longer work there.

I simply don't understand why you and others just flat out think AI is a hoax. It's frankly humorous. I do share your concerns and some of the limitations that you point out but you seem to be wholly writing it off as something that will never amount to anything when it's already a real world thing.

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If you walked away and retired, you are likely a Boomer. Boomers can be fooled easily with tech mumbo jumbo.

I didn't say AI was a hoax. Don't lie. I am in AI myself. I am just saying it won't take over the world like Musk and other morons are predicting. It will change things, improve some areas, but not cause a catastrophe.

You are cleverly changing the goalposts.

PS: If you retired, you should be able to name the company. I want to investigate what they really do.

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I'm 52 so Gen X.

I'm not changing the goalposts at all. I've already acknowledged the big grand vision stuff that Elon talks about has constraints on it...most notably via the lack of energy production to support it all.

I pointed out software dev explicitly from someone else's post that I replied to on that specific topic.

And I'm absolutely not naming the company. It's not a big company and I would immediately compromise my anonymity.

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infinity ag said:

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Mr.Milkshake said:

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If you haven't worked with LLMs in a CLI and orchestrated agents, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Massive change is already here. Many will be left behind, and tons of jobs that exist right now for humans wont be needed. Coding cost is a race to zero now - most dev teams will be replaced by product and one senior eng to orchestrate

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Fact. And Product and IT will meld even more. A Product person will be able to get you 80% there with AI and the Senior Engineer will get it over the finish line. Entry level coders are already extinct.

I know this because I ran Product for my startup and we implemented this model. I nixed plans for hiring Product Mgrs because I no longer needed them. Existing headcount was good using AI. We started doing dev ourselves before handing off to a Senior. And this was a few months ago and it's already progressed so far beyond when I retired that I likely wouldn't even recognize it just a few months away from it.

The original problem I had with it was that by removing entry level you removed the ability to get anyone to a Sr level later on to make this model work, but I think AI is going to progress so fast with coding that problem will dissipate. I think we actually get to a point where the Product and IT guys fully combine into one entity and you just have someone inputting the starting requirements and you just take the output and go.

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So all we need is CEOs in the future. He will buy an AI subscription, press a button and a company will pop out of it.

Profit! Billions upon billions, here I come.

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Software dev certainly will be a mostly automated process/task.

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A little bit, sure. But not how people are saying it will be. Everyone talks, no one has done it with any success in quantity and quality.

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We produced quality code with it. Our CTO moved his team full-time to Claude Code before I left. It's evolved exponentially since I left.

And I would also say, "YET". Improvements are happening at breakneck speed.

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Give me an example of "quality code".

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#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main() {
cout << "Hello World" << endl;
return 0;
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So we're using namespaces globally and explicitly returning a clean value from main?

Yeah, those boomers are just Neanderthals when it comes to tech:

Bill Gates - Co-founded Microsoft
Paul Allen - Microsoft co-founder
Steve Jobs - Co-founded Apple
Steve Wozniak - Engineered the Apple I & II
Larry Ellison - Founded Oracle
Jeff Bezos - Founded Amazon
Marc Andreessen - Built Netscape
Reed Hastings - Founded Netflix
Larry Page - Co-founded Google
Sergey Brin - Google co-founder
Gordon Moore - Co-founded Intel, Moore's Law
Andy Grove - Scaled Intel into a dominant chipmaker
Michael Dell - Founded Dell
John Chambers - Built Cisco into the backbone of the internet
Eric Schmidt - Scaled Google operationally
Nolan Bushnell - Founded Atari
Tim Berners-Lee - Invented the web



You're posts have become a meme at this point.

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YouBet said:

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Mr.Milkshake said:

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If you haven't worked with LLMs in a CLI and orchestrated agents, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Massive change is already here. Many will be left behind, and tons of jobs that exist right now for humans wont be needed. Coding cost is a race to zero now - most dev teams will be replaced by product and one senior eng to orchestrate

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Fact. And Product and IT will meld even more. A Product person will be able to get you 80% there with AI and the Senior Engineer will get it over the finish line. Entry level coders are already extinct.

I know this because I ran Product for my startup and we implemented this model. I nixed plans for hiring Product Mgrs because I no longer needed them. Existing headcount was good using AI. We started doing dev ourselves before handing off to a Senior. And this was a few months ago and it's already progressed so far beyond when I retired that I likely wouldn't even recognize it just a few months away from it.

The original problem I had with it was that by removing entry level you removed the ability to get anyone to a Sr level later on to make this model work, but I think AI is going to progress so fast with coding that problem will dissipate. I think we actually get to a point where the Product and IT guys fully combine into one entity and you just have someone inputting the starting requirements and you just take the output and go.

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So all we need is CEOs in the future. He will buy an AI subscription, press a button and a company will pop out of it.

Profit! Billions upon billions, here I come.

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Software dev certainly will be a mostly automated process/task.

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A little bit, sure. But not how people are saying it will be. Everyone talks, no one has done it with any success in quantity and quality.

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We produced quality code with it. Our CTO moved his team full-time to Claude Code before I left. It's evolved exponentially since I left.

And I would also say, "YET". Improvements are happening at breakneck speed.

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Give me an example of "quality code".

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#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main() {
cout << "Hello World" << endl;
return 0;
}

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So we're including namespaces globally and explicitly returning a clean value from main?

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Hey, it compiles and is pretty! It's clean enough! Push to prod now you dev monkey.

Some of us designed the things dubbed "AI".

It's not.

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YouBet said:

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YouBet said:

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Mr.Milkshake said:

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If you haven't worked with LLMs in a CLI and orchestrated agents, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Massive change is already here. Many will be left behind, and tons of jobs that exist right now for humans wont be needed. Coding cost is a race to zero now - most dev teams will be replaced by product and one senior eng to orchestrate

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Fact. And Product and IT will meld even more. A Product person will be able to get you 80% there with AI and the Senior Engineer will get it over the finish line. Entry level coders are already extinct.

I know this because I ran Product for my startup and we implemented this model. I nixed plans for hiring Product Mgrs because I no longer needed them. Existing headcount was good using AI. We started doing dev ourselves before handing off to a Senior. And this was a few months ago and it's already progressed so far beyond when I retired that I likely wouldn't even recognize it just a few months away from it.

The original problem I had with it was that by removing entry level you removed the ability to get anyone to a Sr level later on to make this model work, but I think AI is going to progress so fast with coding that problem will dissipate. I think we actually get to a point where the Product and IT guys fully combine into one entity and you just have someone inputting the starting requirements and you just take the output and go.

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So all we need is CEOs in the future. He will buy an AI subscription, press a button and a company will pop out of it.

Profit! Billions upon billions, here I come.

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Software dev certainly will be a mostly automated process/task.

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A little bit, sure. But not how people are saying it will be. Everyone talks, no one has done it with any success in quantity and quality.

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We produced quality code with it. Our CTO moved his team full-time to Claude Code before I left. It's evolved exponentially since I left.

And I would also say, "YET". Improvements are happening at breakneck speed.

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Give me an example of "quality code".

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#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main() {
cout << "Hello World" << endl;
return 0;
}

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So we're including namespaces globally and explicitly returning a clean value from main?

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Hey, it compiles and is pretty! It's clean enough! Push to prod now you dev monkey.

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Sounds like the way to get a new 0-day.

Oh no my joke code hello word cpp file will get 0-dayed

Nah. There's no input stream. Can't exploit something that's just yelling and not listening.

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Some of us designed the things dubbed "AI".

It's not.

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Sure. My Silent Generation dad is a first generation computer nerd that helped put computers on the map so I'm sure he did as well.

Doesn't change what's already here and what's coming.

Dude, what is your deal? There is a difference between discourse and unhinged. Over on another thread I saw you saying you're gonna buy a house in the $4MM range, wth do you honestly care? Those fortunate enough to be wealthy are just going to get wealthier.

If y'all need me I'll be unbreaking code on an air-gapped system without the aid of a device.

I generally agree, but if a drug dealer wanted to make a commercial for drug use, they would go to their one lawyer customer. AI would be making commercials with Series A companies. IMO, it's the max benefit use case being sold as the ah ha! to all use cases.

on the subject-

does anyone else always say hello and thank Claude and Gemini when utilizing them?

I always say thank you and good morning.

I want the AI on my side when they start to eliminate humans.

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on the subject-

does anyone else always say hello and thank Claude and Gemini when utilizing them?

I always say thank you and good morning.

I want the AI on my side when they start to eliminate humans.

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AI sees through your human games.

I hope he is right. I'm in my middle 50s. My job is hard, stressful, and unhealthy. I make really good $$.

If I was replaced, I'd work out, get in shape, volunteer, take my Jeep to the beach more. My yard would look amazing.

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I hope he is right. I'm in my middle 50s. My job is hard, stressful, and unhealthy. I make really good $$.

If I was replaced, I'd work out, get in shape, volunteer, take my Jeep to the beach more. My yard would look amazing.

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All companies these days care nothing other than the stock market. Get good at investing (there is a board on TA for that, I learned a lot). Then you don't have to work in a hard stressful job. After 50, health becomes most important. Your $$$ won't help if you are bedridden.

Good luck! I hope you achieve your dreams.

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on the subject-

does anyone else always say hello and thank Claude and Gemini when utilizing them?

I always say thank you and good morning.

I want the AI on my side when they start to eliminate humans.

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I LOL'ed!

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Dude, what is your deal? There is a difference between discourse and unhinged. Over on another thread I saw you saying you're gonna buy a house in the $4MM range, wth do you honestly care? Those fortunate enough to be wealthy are just going to get wealthier.

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The 4MM house is later this year after I move. How is that connected with this discussion? That is my personal life, this topic is politics and world affairs. Don't mix the two.

I am wealthy too. So?

I don't like people cheating and using unethical methods to get rich. We won't survive as a society if we do that. It is true that it happens everywhere which is sad.

Is there a way Mustafa and I can bet on it?

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TexasRebel said:

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Some of us designed the things dubbed "AI".

It's not.

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Sure. My Silent Generation dad is a first generation computer nerd that helped put computers on the map so I'm sure he did as well.

Doesn't change what's already here and what's coming.

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My silent gen dad worked on punch cards in Dallas in the 60s! We still have a few of those at home. He had to carry a stack of those that he "wrote" to the computer room. It was a different world.

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Mr.Milkshake said:

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If you haven't worked with LLMs in a CLI and orchestrated agents, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Massive change is already here. Many will be left behind, and tons of jobs that exist right now for humans wont be needed. Coding cost is a race to zero now - most dev teams will be replaced by product and one senior eng to orchestrate

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Fact. And Product and IT will meld even more. A Product person will be able to get you 80% there with AI and the Senior Engineer will get it over the finish line. Entry level coders are already extinct.

I know this because I ran Product for my startup and we implemented this model. I nixed plans for hiring Product Mgrs because I no longer needed them. Existing headcount was good using AI. We started doing dev ourselves before handing off to a Senior. And this was a few months ago and it's already progressed so far beyond when I retired that I likely wouldn't even recognize it just a few months away from it.

The original problem I had with it was that by removing entry level you removed the ability to get anyone to a Sr level later on to make this model work, but I think AI is going to progress so fast with coding that problem will dissipate. I think we actually get to a point where the Product and IT guys fully combine into one entity and you just have someone inputting the starting requirements and you just take the output and go.

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So all we need is CEOs in the future. He will buy an AI subscription, press a button and a company will pop out of it.

Profit! Billions upon billions, here I come.

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Software dev certainly will be a mostly automated process/task.

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A little bit, sure. But not how people are saying it will be. Everyone talks, no one has done it with any success in quantity and quality.

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We produced quality code with it. Our CTO moved his team full-time to Claude Code before I left. It's evolved exponentially since I left.

And I would also say, "YET". Improvements are happening at breakneck speed.

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Share details. I don't buy it.
I am pretty sure you personally profit from these rumors.

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Yeah, I don't. I walked away and retired. I no longer work there.

I simply don't understand why you and others just flat out think AI is a hoax. It's frankly humorous. I do share your concerns and some of the limitations that you point out but you seem to be wholly writing it off as something that will never amount to anything when it's already a real world thing.

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If you walked away and retired, you are likely a Boomer. Boomers can be fooled easily with tech mumbo jumbo.

I didn't say AI was a hoax. Don't lie. I am in AI myself. I am just saying it won't take over the world like Musk and other morons are predicting. It will change things, improve some areas, but not cause a catastrophe.

You are cleverly changing the goalposts.

PS: If you retired, you should be able to name the company. I want to investigate what they really do.

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I'm 52 so Gen X.

I'm not changing the goalposts at all. I've already acknowledged the big grand vision stuff that Elon talks about has constraints on it...most notably via the lack of energy production to support it all.

I pointed out software dev explicitly from someone else's post that I replied to on that specific topic.

And I'm absolutely not naming the company. It's not a big company and I would immediately compromise my anonymity.

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Fair enough.
Well done on being 52 and retired! You are enjoying life while still being healthy, which not many have.

My point remains. No company is at a point where they just buy an AI subscription and voila... billions roll in. Not going to happen. "It will come" okay, fun to speculate and I enjoy that too but many things go against that in reality.

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Yeah, those boomers are just Neanderthals when it comes to tech:

Bill Gates - Co-founded Microsoft
Paul Allen - Microsoft co-founder
Steve Jobs - Co-founded Apple
Steve Wozniak - Engineered the Apple I & II
Larry Ellison - Founded Oracle
Jeff Bezos - Founded Amazon
Marc Andreessen - Built Netscape
Reed Hastings - Founded Netflix
Larry Page - Co-founded Google
Sergey Brin - Google co-founder
Gordon Moore - Co-founded Intel, Moore's Law
Andy Grove - Scaled Intel into a dominant chipmaker
Michael Dell - Founded Dell
John Chambers - Built Cisco into the backbone of the internet
Eric Schmidt - Scaled Google operationally
Nolan Bushnell - Founded Atari
Tim Berners-Lee - Invented the web



You're posts have become a meme at this point.

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I see you can talk to ChatGPT very well.
Good boy.

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In 2015, Elon said fully autonomous cars would be available in a few years.

In 2019, he predicted 1million robotaxis by 2020.

He also predicted to be on Mars by 2021 and then the moon by 2021.

He's a great visionary and entrepreneur, but you really can't believe a word he says.

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Agreed. His mind is that of a visionary CEO, not necessarily a COO/Executor.

Hopefully we're a good 4-5 decades from what he's saying now.

lol, I know. I do ok with investing, I just don't yet have enough to retire. But I am definitely mentally ready!

I worry what my daughter will do for a living. She wants to go to law school. Everyone says clerical lawyers will be replaced, but I don't believe that. Good attorneys give "human" advice and counsel for real problems and dilemmas. AI will never be able to do that. AI can generate documents, briefs, contracts, etc. but it can't replace human counsel.

I think kids that are energetic and can run their own business, regardless of what it is, will succeed in the future. Working for big companies may be a thing of the past.

In reality, I won't be replaced. But my position may change drastically at some point, causing me to throw in the towels before I had planned on it.

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My point remains. No company is at a point where they just buy an AI subscription and voila... billions roll in. Not going to happen. "It will come" okay, fun to speculate and I enjoy that too but many things go against that in reality.

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The bold is called a strawman.

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Can someone please just give the OP a CEO position or at least title so he can shut up??

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here are some of the titles in my company:

Chief Operations and Finance Officer

Vice President, Regulatory

Vice President, Marketing

Vice President, Acquisitions

there are only 8 employees at this headquarters / legal company representing our 9,000 employment parent company in DC.

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If you haven't worked with LLMs in a CLI and orchestrated agents, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Massive change is already here. Many will be left behind, and tons of jobs that exist right now for humans wont be needed. Coding cost is a race to zero now - most dev teams will be replaced by product and one senior eng to orchestrate

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Fact. And Product and IT will meld even more. A Product person will be able to get you 80% there with AI and the Senior Engineer will get it over the finish line. Entry level coders are already extinct.

I know this because I ran Product for my startup and we implemented this model. I nixed plans for hiring Product Mgrs because I no longer needed them. Existing headcount was good using AI. We started doing dev ourselves before handing off to a Senior. And this was a few months ago and it's already progressed so far beyond when I retired that I likely wouldn't even recognize it just a few months away from it.

The original problem I had with it was that by removing entry level you removed the ability to get anyone to a Sr level later on to make this model work, but I think AI is going to progress so fast with coding that problem will dissipate. I think we actually get to a point where the Product and IT guys fully combine into one entity and you just have someone inputting the starting requirements and you just take the output and go.

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So all we need is CEOs in the future. He will buy an AI subscription, press a button and a company will pop out of it.

Profit! Billions upon billions, here I come.

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Software dev certainly will be a mostly automated process/task.

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A little bit, sure. But not how people are saying it will be. Everyone talks, no one has done it with any success in quantity and quality.

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We produced quality code with it. Our CTO moved his team full-time to Claude Code before I left. It's evolved exponentially since I left.

And I would also say, "YET". Improvements are happening at breakneck speed.

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Share details. I don't buy it.
I am pretty sure you personally profit from these rumors.

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Yeah, I don't. I walked away and retired. I no longer work there.

I simply don't understand why you and others just flat out think AI is a hoax. It's frankly humorous. I do share your concerns and some of the limitations that you point out but you seem to be wholly writing it off as something that will never amount to anything when it's already a real world thing.

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If you walked away and retired, you are likely a Boomer. Boomers can be fooled easily with tech mumbo jumbo.

I didn't say AI was a hoax. Don't lie. I am in AI myself. I am just saying it won't take over the world like Musk and other morons are predicting. It will change things, improve some areas, but not cause a catastrophe.

You are cleverly changing the goalposts.

PS: If you retired, you should be able to name the company. I want to investigate what they really do.

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I'm 52 so Gen X.

I'm not changing the goalposts at all. I've already acknowledged the big grand vision stuff that Elon talks about has constraints on it...most notably via the lack of energy production to support it all.

I pointed out software dev explicitly from someone else's post that I replied to on that specific topic.

And I'm absolutely not naming the company. It's not a big company and I would immediately compromise my anonymity.

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Fair enough.
Well done on being 52 and retired! You are enjoying life while still being healthy, which not many have.

My point remains. No company is at a point where they just buy an AI subscription and voila... billions roll in. Not going to happen. "It will come" okay, fun to speculate and I enjoy that too but many things go against that in reality.

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Having my health now was one of the main reasons I decided to call it quits now.

Not really saying it's easy as buying a sub and creating a company out of thin air with it.

It's a massive disrupter though and will kill alot of current jobs that will no longer be relevant. And its already completely disrupting the software dev space especially for those who do not have tech debt they have to clear away first.

Lol... goober who hasn't been involved with technology deployments making sweeping statements on how every business is going to implement technology in 12 months. This guy is a moron if he thinks that's going to happen in 12 months.

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Go ahead and show me those AI robots that are gonna do all the plumbing electrical HVAC service work in this country

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now THIS is the one thing that I can't understand anyone can believe

it will be a HELL of a lot easier to train an autonomous robot to repair an HVAC

than to train an AI to represent defendants in criminal court.

You college kids are fooked. Learn to mine for coal

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We are headed for an economic reckoning with this stuff. College grads are already looking at 10% UE numbers and that's only going to get worse.

Get ready for UBI policies getting floated in the next big election because if AI automates as much as the proponents say it will we are going to have massive numbers of people not working.

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who can explain Musk's utopia where the robots do all the work

the humans lay on the beach

and every human gets paid to lie on the beach

if no one is working- who pays taxes?

the companies with no humans pay taxes to a government with no humans, and that government takes all the money and gives to the humans?

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IF by white collar job he means receptionist, customer phone service, executive assistants etc. then I would agree. AI is replacing them as I type.

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I would add in "Fitness Instructor"

but there will always be dudes wanting to pay some cute female to lift weights with

BusterAg said:

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The hype is progressing as expected.



IMO we are at about 1.7 right now.

4.0 won't likely be until around 2029.

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Yep the Bronze age changed the world, Then the Iron age, The the printing press, the the steam engine, Then the wider Industrial revolution, The the information age, And now AI

The DURATION of Adjustment, aka adjusting to the impacts regarding global social, political, and economic consequences is what matters. In the old days changes were slow and some societies could adjust but only after major political changes. Example ~1170 BC and the Bronze age collapse.

But from the 1800's on, the changes to society and economics were more intense and successful adjustment slow after intense initial impacts resulting in on going instability. Socialism/Commie was for example, a failed attempted adjustment regarding the Industrial Rev.

Now here comes AI totally flipping the apple cart. If this guy is remotely correct the social and eco fallout is going to be massive with almost no adjustment time. Given the military and economic stakes vs China I think caution will be lacking.

If history is any guide- Hand on to your butts.

1) It is an interesting observation that prices will have to go down if efficiency increases. He is pretty right about that.

2) I think he is wrong to say that AI is the end of scarcity. It's just that the definition of scarcity will continue to evolve. We spend like 4% of our budgets on food. Our great-grandfathers spent like 40% to 60% of their budget on food. They would say that WE live in a post scarcity world, because very few people starve to death in the US due solely to inescapable poverty.

One thing is pretty likely. Asset owners right now are going to be in better shape 10 years down the road than they are now.