Students attack a teacher at ICE protest

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Turns out he's not a teacher, but someone threw something that broke the passenger window of his truck and he got out to go after them and the brawl took place, and he was wearing a MAGA hat. It was widely misreported that he was a teacher. There was a female teacher involved but she was trying to break the brawl up. She had on the "choose kindness" sweatshirt.





Too bad they didn't turn into good terrorists.
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Flower Child said:

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Husky Boy Jr. said:

There are multiple videos circulating on this.

1. He is not a teacher, its likely he was driving by and rolled his windows down with a MAGA hat on based on the aftermath video - what happened to initiate is unclear, but the video shows no sign of broken glass.

2. He exits the vehicle, crosses a lane, targets a young person and attacks her by throwing punches and then jumping on top of her (this is on video)

3. A bunch of kids attack him in retaliation

Very unclear why The Fall Guy is getting attacked in this thread, I havent seen anything untrue posted by him.

Not sure how to link directly, but the videos are in the post from BPD: https://www.facebook.com/BudaPoliceDepartment


My comment about the broken window was based on another poster's comment. No idea if that happened.

FG clearly stated that there was no provocation. That is a lie. You looked through the FB posts and obviously saw the assertion by numerous posters about them throwing objects, but you left that part out of your "objective" summary. Not surprised. Also, what I see in the vid is him walking towards the female, pushing her and she starts slinging her hands. The BPD said in their official statement that they don't know who started the fight. You left that part out of your summary too.

You libs simply want to believe that a white man with a MAGA hat stopped, got out of his truck, and attacked someone for the heck of it. Just like you pretend that Good and Pretti were innocent victims.

Equally ridiculous are posters suggesting that the beating happened simply because someone was wearing a MAGA hat. Hopefully all the facts will come out about this.

The only thing we can gather from this for sure is, much like travel advisories for foreign countries going through political unrest, at the present time in America it's best to avoid large gatherings of people.


Since I posted above, I'm wondering if you're referring to me because I posted the following:

Add to that from the vids I have seen so far, they all seem to begin with her holding his hat as physical confrontation begins.
So how did she get his hat? Did he hand it to her?

Just to state the obvious, nowhere in the words above is the statement, inference, or insinuation that this all happened simply because someone was wearing a MAGA hat. It is a 'mostly' rhetorical question that may explain how things escalated beyond words.

To be clear, the fact that some people are triggered by someone is wearing a MAGA hat is no reason to rip said hat off someone's head. That also is assault. Yes, the smart thing would have been to keep driving and never to exit the truck. But the driver making a bone headed move to exit the truck doesn't give any kids the right to snatch a hat off his head - assuming that is what happened.

The kids shouldn't have been "protesting" during school hours. The guy shouldn't have exited the truck. Someone shouldn't have snatched a hat off his head. Cooler heads should have prevailed. Absent additional information that is bound to surface, it seems there's plenty of blame to go around.
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Man I am so glad my grandkids moved out of that town. Disheartening all the way around.
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Every place where gangs/groups of people attack someone, I wish several members of law enforcement would show up and start applying billy clubs to noses, eye sockets, teeth, and kneecaps and not be prosecuted for it. In time, this behavior would end.
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The intent of my original post was simply to say that we can't claim to know the entire scenario for certain yet with the evidence available and a wish that hopefully all the facts will come out.

The later posts twisting my words into bizarre claims that no one has ever been attacked for wearing a MAGA hat or that MAGA hat-wearers are known for unprovoked assault wasn't where I wanted to go at all, but is typical of the strawmen that pop up here.
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Flower Child said:

The intent of my original post was simply to say that we can't claim to know the entire scenario for certain yet with the evidence available and a wish that hopefully all the facts will come out.

The later posts twisting my words into bizarre claims that no one has ever been attacked for wearing a MAGA hat or that MAGA hat-wearers are known for unprovoked assault wasn't where I wanted to go at all, but is typical of the strawmen that pop up here.


No one twisted anything, You made an apples to hand grenades comparison and rightfully got called out. You then incorrectly respond to the poster - who assumed you were trolling because of that idiotic comparison - by inferring that he made that claim because you were being critical of MAGA, which is bunk. What you've demonstrated in this thread is that you you don't understand the meaning of trolling, non-sequitur, hypocrisy or strawman.
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Logos Stick said:

Flower Child said:

The intent of my original post was simply to say that we can't claim to know the entire scenario for certain yet with the evidence available and a wish that hopefully all the facts will come out.

The later posts twisting my words into bizarre claims that no one has ever been attacked for wearing a MAGA hat or that MAGA hat-wearers are known for unprovoked assault wasn't where I wanted to go at all, but is typical of the strawmen that pop up here.


No one twisted anything, You made an apples to hand grenades comparison and rightfully got called out. You then incorrectly respond to the poster - who assumed you were trolling because of that idiotic comparison - by inferring that he made that claim because you were being critical of MAGA, which is bunk. What you've demonstrated in this thread is that you you don't understand the meaning of trolling, non-sequitur, hypocrisy or strawman.

Please explain how what happened in this video is clearly the result of either either:

1. A person in a MAGA hat seeing protestors.
2. A group of people seeing him in a MAGA hat.

My claim was that neither of these are the likely full explanation of this video. You claim that this is an apples and hand grenades comparison and I am an idiot for suggesting that one of these is not the correct response.

Please further explain how my posts show how I don't understand the meaning of trolling, non-sequitur, hypocrisy, or strawmen.

Or don't. Fine either way.
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I didn't call you an idiot (or suggest it). I said the poster claimed you were trolling because of the idiotic comparison. "Idiotic" is an adjective which modifies "comparison".
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I'm going to leave you with this quote from the pinned moderation comment at the top of F16 and then take leave from the thread as to be honest I don't have a problem with you and don't wish to have one in the future.

-Not everyone that has an opposing view is a troll. Reacting to other viewpoints as if they can't possibly be real or honestly held by someone else is also not a good faith effort at discussion. When users focus on addressing opposing viewpoints with their own, healthy debate and discussion happens. Don't make your posts a judgement on another user's posting intent.

ETA: I should probably take a break from the forum to be honest. Not fishing for sympathy, just more of a window I guess. Parent and partner died simultaneously at the beginning of the year which has me a bit unstable (moreso than usual anyway). I was thinking trying to be engaged in something else would be helpful but it just has me getting frustrated. Take care all. I do earnestly wish the best for everyone.
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That's fine. But he did not assume you were trolling simply because of disagreement.

The first scenario has happened many times since Trump first took office and the other has never occurred (to my knowledge, that's why I asked for examples).

Have a good day.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Flower Child said:

Logos Stick said:

Husky Boy Jr. said:

There are multiple videos circulating on this.

1. He is not a teacher, its likely he was driving by and rolled his windows down with a MAGA hat on based on the aftermath video - what happened to initiate is unclear, but the video shows no sign of broken glass.

2. He exits the vehicle, crosses a lane, targets a young person and attacks her by throwing punches and then jumping on top of her (this is on video)

3. A bunch of kids attack him in retaliation

Very unclear why The Fall Guy is getting attacked in this thread, I havent seen anything untrue posted by him.

Not sure how to link directly, but the videos are in the post from BPD: https://www.facebook.com/BudaPoliceDepartment


My comment about the broken window was based on another poster's comment. No idea if that happened.

FG clearly stated that there was no provocation. That is a lie. You looked through the FB posts and obviously saw the assertion by numerous posters about them throwing objects, but you left that part out of your "objective" summary. Not surprised. Also, what I see in the vid is him walking towards the female, pushing her and she starts slinging her hands. The BPD said in their official statement that they don't know who started the fight. You left that part out of your summary too.

You libs simply want to believe that a white man with a MAGA hat stopped, got out of his truck, and attacked someone for the heck of it. Just like you pretend that Good and Pretti were innocent victims.

Equally ridiculous are posters suggesting that the beating happened simply because someone was wearing a MAGA hat. Hopefully all the facts will come out about this.

The only thing we can gather from this for sure is, much like travel advisories for foreign countries going through political unrest, at the present time in America it's best to avoid large gatherings of people.

You have to be kidding or trolling with this ludicrous statement.......

You can go on X and search "attacked for wearing a MAGA hat" and there are literally HUNDREDS of videos over the last ten years of that very thing happening.

HERE is exactly what I said, in which the emphasis was on the ludicrous statement you made above in bolded letters.

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Equally ridiculous are posters suggesting that the beating happened simply because someone was wearing a MAGA hat.


And your response was about your definition of the use of the word "trolling". YOU completely ignored the premise of what I said regarding your idiotic statement quoted above. I justified my reply saying there are literally hundreds of videos on X alone proving your statement was in IMHO idiotic and completely without merit. There are videos of liberal idiots damaging cars in store parking lots that have Trump Stickers on them. If you don't think the vast majority of liberals don't get triggered and complete meltdown, usually ending up in damaging property or attacking individuals, you must live in an alternate reality, because it happens A LOT.

Don't like X posts as a source? Here's just a few reported in the mainstream media, take your pick


https://abc7.com/post/art-gallery-owner-says-he-was-attacked-for-maga-hat/5436185

https://www.opb.org/news/article/maga-hat-trump-portland-oregon-assault

https://krcrtv.com/news/local/77-year-old-veteran-attacked-for-wearing-maga-hat

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/two-men-charged-after-allegedly-attacking-man-for-wearing-maga-hat-in-germantown

https://abc7.com/post/assault-on-man-wearing-maga-hat-in-hermosa-beach-leads-to-arrest/5584428

https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-woman-strikes-man-maga-hat-largo-park-before-battering-officer-documents

https://baumgartner.house.gov/media/press-releases/baumgartner-applauds-wsu-firing-staff-over-assault-student-wearing-maga-hat-no

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Logos Stick said:

That's fine. But he did not assume you were trolling simply because of disagreement.

The first scenario has happened many times since Trump first took office and the other has never occurred (to my knowledge, that's why I asked for examples).

Have a good day.


Jussie Smollett says "HELLO"
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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48 hour rule.

The video starts at a time where you can't see what led up to the incident.


If I had to give an initial impression without all the facts, I'd say it's far right and far left idiots doing dumb *****

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Buda Police Dept arrested Chad Watts of Kyle for 2 counts assault of bodily injury.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1HYREhjgsm/

Hays county DA and the state were involved also.
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The Fall Guy said:

Buda Police Dept arrested Chad Watts of Kyle for 2 counts assault of bodily injury.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1HYREhjgsm/

Hays county DA and the state were involved also.
Good.
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Yep. The Hays DA and the State knew.

They also charged the 2 girls in Kyle for Assault on a peace officer from yesterday
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Meh this is a misdemeanor it will be dismissed once the truth come outs.
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HoustonAggie11 said:

Meh this is a misdemeanor it will be dismissed once the truth come outs.


Not on a minor.
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Hwy 21?
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Spot on thread title and analysis by the original poster
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Common sense prevails and not a mob mentality to say assault on a minor girl was warranted
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Now give the parents and students a ticket for truancy.
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redcrayon said:

Now give the parents and students a ticket for truancy.


The distict put out today no more protests period.
They did not condone it in the first place. Today a middle school walked out in Kyle and tomorrow 2 more middle schools and 2 elementary schools were going to walk out. The dustict sent out a memo thay Common sense has gone out the window. The students that left this week are getting unexcused absence. The ones that stayed were commended. Watching these entitled parents whining is great. There are posts going around of another walkout Friday but it seems right now the State, county, and local entities actually worked together to get this under control. The national press is not good.

A Johnston High School Jaguar golf teacher was fired today also for standing in his classroom with Protest signs he made on Monday after the district said they are not condoning or sponsoring the protests.
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The Fall Guy said:

Common sense prevails and not a mob mentality to say assault on a minor girl was warranted

No one is convicted.

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samurai_science said:

The Fall Guy said:

Common sense prevails and not a mob mentality to say assault on a minor girl was warranted

No one is convicted.



also that link doesnt say he was charged with assault on a minor
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However approved the walkout should be fired and students expelled.
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HoustonAggie11 said:

samurai_science said:

The Fall Guy said:

Common sense prevails and not a mob mentality to say assault on a minor girl was warranted

No one is convicted.



also that link doesnt say he was charged with assault on a minor


Why are you so sad for this man? They are minors.
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Whoever authorized students to skip class for the anti-ICE protest should be fired, and the students participating in these protests should be fined for truancy.
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https://www.fox7austin.com/news/hays-cisd-new-rules-student-protests-walkouts?link_source=ta_first_comment&taid=6982a859379b820001aea6f6&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&sfnsn=mo&fbclid=IwdGRjcAPvp-NjbGNrA--n0WV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHkn_ccVnziar7ZjjRRpmPFuuJxUGc_EYqIbJF1dO8K_J3UUaiY6OywrsaSww_aem_Ajlv7tOtYcWRRc4iz-7LcA

HAYS isd statement and rules. Now truancy rules.
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Buford T. Justice said:

Hwy 21?

Yep, couldn't remember if it was 21 continued. Saw some wild bad driving and wrecks on that stretch of road.
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HoustonAggie11 said:

Meh this is a misdemeanor it will be dismissed once the truth come outs.


What's the truth?
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Getting jumped by teens with sweaters that say "choose kindness always" and "kill your local pedophile"

The kids are alright, man

Racist POS found out lol
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LtAldoRaine said:

Getting jumped by teens with sweaters that say "choose kindness always" and "kill your local pedophile"

The kids are alright, man

Racist POS found out lol

now hes a racist? are you a white lib by any chance? lmao
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The Fall Guy said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

samurai_science said:

The Fall Guy said:

Common sense prevails and not a mob mentality to say assault on a minor girl was warranted

No one is convicted.



also that link doesnt say he was charged with assault on a minor


Why are you so sad for this man? They are minors.

huh im just calling out the fact you lied, link says nothing about being charged with assaults on minors.
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HoustonAggie11 said:

The Fall Guy said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

samurai_science said:

The Fall Guy said:

Common sense prevails and not a mob mentality to say assault on a minor girl was warranted

No one is convicted.



also that link doesnt say he was charged with assault on a minor


Why are you so sad for this man? They are minors.

huh im just calling out the fact you lied, link says nothing about being charged with assaults on minors.


Yeah, but maybe the comment section did.
 
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