Hilton Is about to have a Bud Light day

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Gaeilge
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The same group has a Fairfield (Marriott) on their page. Wouldn't surprise me if Marriott drop kicked them out too. Marriott is pretty strict on their PR
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Rapier108 said:

And yet Nick Sortor and the rest of the pitchfork brigade are still out there screaming about destroying Hilton.





Life is not fair. Especially if you are dumb or let dumbasses represent your brand.
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bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

And yet Nick Sortor and the rest of the pitchfork brigade are still out there screaming about destroying Hilton.





Life is not fair. Especially if you are dumb or let dumbasses represent your brand.

So Hilton does the right thing by nuking the franchise, but they should still be destroyed?
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Respect to Hilton for the quick action.
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ShaggySLC said:

Not sure its Hilton directly


Local, not a Hilton policy.
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Rapier108 said:

bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

And yet Nick Sortor and the rest of the pitchfork brigade are still out there screaming about destroying Hilton.





Life is not fair. Especially if you are dumb or let dumbasses represent your brand.

So Hilton does the right thing by nuking the franchise, but they should still be destroyed?

Never said that. But again you love to jump to bad conclusions. Everspeak is dumb and Hilton may be acting too slowly. If Hilton is not careful they could be Bud Lit.

Will say that Hilton should be more aggressive, rip down there flag where needed, and distance themselves from bad apples.
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bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

And yet Nick Sortor and the rest of the pitchfork brigade are still out there screaming about destroying Hilton.





Life is not fair. Especially if you are dumb or let dumbasses represent your brand.

So Hilton does the right thing by nuking the franchise, but they should still be destroyed?

Never said that. But again you love to jump to bad conclusions. Everspeak is dumb and Hilton may be acting too slowly. If Hilton is not careful they could be Bud Lit.

Will say that Hilton should be more aggressive, rip down there flag where needed, and distance themselves from bad apples.


They acted within 24 hours and have distanced themselves by firing these foreigner clowns. That's pretty damn fast.

Will probably take a few days to remove the sign from the building though.
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Within of 24hrs of notification, they pulled the franchise...

Do you want them to nuke the family puppy while they're at it?
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Hilton and the franchisee have a contract / agreement that comes into play as well. I imagine yesterday afternoon was fact gathering, warning shot to franchisee, demand they issue a statement and apology consistent with corporate.

Then the video was enough legally for them to separate.

Hilton seems to have acted quickly with some proper diligence.

They should be good as long as there are not more locations or some evidence this came FROM corporate.
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flown-the-coop said:

Hilton and the franchisee have a contract / agreement that comes into play as well. I imagine yesterday afternoon was fact gathering, warning shot to franchisee, demand they issue a statement and apology consistent with corporate.

Then the video was enough legally for them to separate.

Hilton seems to have acted quickly with some proper diligence.

They should be good as long as there are not more locations or some evidence this came FROM corporate.

Agreed. I have been a lifetime Diamond member and will continue to stay at their properties when it is the best option for us. When the story broke, my first inclination was a franchisee made a dumb move, not Hilton Corporate and lookee here...
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YouBet said:

bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

And yet Nick Sortor and the rest of the pitchfork brigade are still out there screaming about destroying Hilton.





Life is not fair. Especially if you are dumb or let dumbasses represent your brand.

So Hilton does the right thing by nuking the franchise, but they should still be destroyed?

Never said that. But again you love to jump to bad conclusions. Everspeak is dumb and Hilton may be acting too slowly. If Hilton is not careful they could be Bud Lit.

Will say that Hilton should be more aggressive, rip down there flag where needed, and distance themselves from bad apples.


They acted within 24 hours and have distanced themselves by firing these foreigner clowns. That's pretty damn fast.

Will probably take a few days to remove the sign from the building though.


Can't really ask for more.
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A nice five minute interview on Fox News with the head of Hilton PR could clean this up in one day, and actually spin this into a positive for Hilton.

1) Hilton has rules for franchisees about who they can turn away. Here are the rules.
2) The franchisee broke the rules, and we told them to stop. Here is our communication telling them to stop.
3) The franchisee didn't stop. Here is the proof that the franchisee didn't stop.
4) We fired the franchisee.
5) We are welcoming to all, regardless of political views, as long as you treat our guests and our properties with respect.
6) We are sorry that this happened. We are looking into ways to more closely monitoring franchisees to make sure this does not happen again.
7) We just gave Homan 10 million Hilton points for ICE to use. (That sounds like a huge number, but it is like 100 - 200 free nights total, which is a small cost to sweep this under the rug).
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Seems like the actions by HIlton corporate are fair and what I would have done myself if I was in their shoes. The fault is solely on this franchise. I hope they have to file for bankruptcy now and that every three letter agency takes a good hard look at them for other "issues".

The backers of that hotel are most likely now persona non grata in the hospitality industry - expect to see them sell and gobbling up a few more convenience stores to compensate lol.
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javajaws said:

Seems like the actions by HIlton corporate are fair and what I would have done myself if I was in their shoes. The fault is solely on this franchise. I hope they have to file for bankruptcy now and that every three letter agency takes a good hard look at them for other "issues".

The backers of that hotel are most likely now persona non grata in the hospitality industry - expect to see them sell and gobbling up a few more convenience stores to compensate lol.


And then we deport the four owners to boot.
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Hilton accidentally applied too much de-icer on the porte-cochre.
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YouBet said:

javajaws said:

Seems like the actions by HIlton corporate are fair and what I would have done myself if I was in their shoes. The fault is solely on this franchise. I hope they have to file for bankruptcy now and that every three letter agency takes a good hard look at them for other "issues".

The backers of that hotel are most likely now persona non grata in the hospitality industry - expect to see them sell and gobbling up a few more convenience stores to compensate lol.


And then we deport the four owners to boot.

Somalians??
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Indians.
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Sikhs more specifically based on surnames.
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TX_COWDOC said:

So I can keep my Diamond status and points now?

That's good 'cause I really didn't want to start over. If Marriott offered me a swap like the airlines used to do, I'd probably do it on principle.

They do. Call Marriott and tell them your Hilton status. Ask for a platinum challenge. You get immediate platinum status, and after 16 paid stays in a year, it becomes permanent.

IHG will typically do a straight up status match without the challenge.
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ts5641 said:

Seems like half the hotels in the US are owned by Hilton. This will be a difficult boycott.


I'm 100% certain I'll be successful boycotting them.
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txyaloo said:

TX_COWDOC said:

So I can keep my Diamond status and points now?

That's good 'cause I really didn't want to start over. If Marriott offered me a swap like the airlines used to do, I'd probably do it on principle.

They do. Call Marriott and tell them your Hilton status. Ask for a platinum challenge. You get immediate platinum status, and after 16 paid stays in a year, it becomes permanent.

IHG will typically do a straight up status match without the challenge.

Too bad IHG does not have a lifetime status...
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jja79 said:

ts5641 said:

Seems like half the hotels in the US are owned by Hilton. This will be a difficult boycott.


I'm 100% certain I'll be successful boycotting them.

So you're mad at Hilton for yanking the franchise?
Glad to know you support discrimination.
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Hilton acted basically overnight. Hard to imagine a better or more swift response than what happened here. Good on them.
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Having seen the quick response from corporate hilton, I'm not boycotting..... just picking the best hotel for where I need to be (same as always)
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jja79 said:

ts5641 said:

Seems like half the hotels in the US are owned by Hilton. This will be a difficult boycott.


I'm 100% certain I'll be successful boycotting them.

After seeing how Hilton has reacted i dont understand this. Can you please explain your logic?

seems to me that their actions should if anything cause people to support Hilton, not boycott them. Seems silly.


what about the other brands opened by the franchise? Will you also boycott them?
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I'm a Geologist, not a big international company corporate guy.

It seems to me though that getting a franchise revoked in ~24 hours is record pace for a large corporation to react in such a decisive and definitive manner.

By nature big organizations don't change the rug in the corporate office lobby without consultation of a committee and review by legal. To get a franchise revoked that quickly means they were acting EXTREMELY quickly and took this matter at the absolute highest priority.

If anything their reaction is remarkable. No interviews. No unnecessary statements. Just quick and decisive action, and when their instructions were not followed their follow-up action was obviously ready and waiting.
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100% agree
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Kenneth_2003 said:

I'm a Geologist, not a big international company corporate guy.

It seems to me though that getting a franchise revoked in ~24 hours is record pace for a large corporation to react in such a decisive and definitive manner.

By nature big organizations don't change the rug in the corporate office lobby without consultation of a committee and review by legal. To get a franchise revoked that quickly means they were acting EXTREMELY quickly and took this matter at the absolute highest priority.

If anything their reaction is remarkable. No interviews. No unnecessary statements. Just quick and decisive action, and when their instructions were not followed their follow-up action was obviously ready and waiting.

Agreed.

Seems silly to boycott Hilton about their reaction. They handled it well.

Also, as pointed out- this hotel franchise company may be also affiliated with Marriott. And even if you picked a different brand than Marriott, who is say these properties won't affiliate with Holiday Inn, etc in the future? Especially since they could easily cover their trail by changing ownership documentation to a new LLC, etc. If I was corporate in IHG I would unofficially advise them to that if they inquired (assuming they would agree to our standards going forward).
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That was defiantly a quick enough response. They saved my business with them.

3 nights just this week I'll be using them
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kubiak03 said:

That was defiantly a quick enough response. They saved my business with them.

3 nights just this week I'll be using them

I've got a Hampton booked for Friday night when I finally get home from St Martin.

I stay at both Hilton and Marriott (Lifetime Gold at both). It makes for good mix of places to stay.

I stayed at both of them recently when I was in the UK and Italy. I could always find one or the other at a reasonable price point (that is, I used points at all of them).
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So in the video, the guy filming is alleging that Hilton LIED and did NOT instruct the franchisee to reverse course and allow ICE agents to stay there.

But that's not what I saw - the dopey 15-year old looking front desk kid only said that the owners "didn't tell him about any reversal to policy."
Seemed like the guy filming (and some posters on this thread) are trying to claim that Hilton lied and never told the franchisee to stop, when that was not at all proven in the video.

I guess I'm confused on two things. One, why are some claiming that the video is proof that Hilton lied, and two, why is Hilton saying that the video shows that the franchisee didn't reverse their policy as promised? Isn't it possible the dumb kid at the desk missed the memo/didn't comprehend? I guess if that's the case, Hilton could still take the stance that the franchisee should have made sure that whoever they had at the front desk the day after the debacle would know what to say.
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The Chair said:

jja79 said:

ts5641 said:

Seems like half the hotels in the US are owned by Hilton. This will be a difficult boycott.


I'm 100% certain I'll be successful boycotting them.

After seeing how Hilton has reacted i dont understand this. Can you please explain your logic?

seems to me that their actions should if anything cause people to support Hilton, not boycott them. Seems silly.


what about the other brands opened by the franchise? Will you also boycott them?

Some people are the type that would stand outside in the middle of a drought and get pissed off because it starts raining.
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Gaeilge said:

Within of 24hrs of notification, they pulled the franchise...

Do you want them to nuke the family puppy while they're at it?

The cat goes first.
 
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