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No, on average, it loses ~$100M per year. And did before Trump had anything to do with anything. And OBVIOUSLY these deferred maintenance issues are older than 2 years old. But common sense is lost.

Just another "Look what Trump broke" from our media.

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The center puts out annual reports. They show a consist revenue line of around $250 Million in revenue and $45 million Federal Appropriations to maintain the place. Everything else was funneled out to maintain its non-profit status.

This was until recently where revenue has plunged through the floor because artists have cancelled en masse and almost every donor has stopped giving due to the political football nature of the place.

The $100 Million deficit is not on average but a the latest forecast due to all the changes to the place.

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Call it what it is.

They don't want to donate because Trump. It's that simple. The donors are largely far left wing Democrats. They don't want ANY money going to ANYTHING that Trump could be involved in. If the entire center collapsed tomorrow, they wouldn't care, because Trump lost.


Trump was going to go out and fundraise from people that didn't have TDS.

https://www.npr.org/2026/09/17/nx-s1-5973036/trump-threat-tear-down-kennedy-center

Word on the street is he's going to demolish the center, there are barriers going up around it. That will teach them!

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Windy City Ag said:

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No, on average, it loses ~$100M per year. And did before Trump had anything to do with anything. And OBVIOUSLY these deferred maintenance issues are older than 2 years old. But common sense is lost.

Just another "Look what Trump broke" from our media.

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The center puts out annual reports. They show a consist revenue line of around $250 Million in revenue and $45 million Federal Appropriations to maintain the place. Everything else was funneled out to maintain its non-profit status.

This was until recently where revenue has plunged through the floor because artists have cancelled en masse and almost every donor has stopped giving due to the political football nature of the place.

The $100 Million deficit is not on average but a the latest forecast due to all the changes to the place.

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Call it what it is.

They don't want to donate because Trump. It's that simple. The donors are largely far left wing Democrats. They don't want ANY money going to ANYTHING that Trump could be involved in. If the entire center collapsed tomorrow, they wouldn't care, because Trump lost.


Trump was going to go out and fundraise from people that didn't have TDS.

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If Trump truly cared about the national performing arts center, he wouldn't insist on a name change.

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Perhaps.

But, if all those donors truly cared about the national performing arts center, THEY wouldn't insist there ISN'T a name change.

They care more that Trump loses than if the national performing arts center gets improved.

Notice that Trump was DOING IT and then the TDS donors FOUGHT IT. They could have supported the renovation and sucked it up that Trump's name might be somewhere on it. But, that was a hill they were willing to die on.

Dumb

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Glad we agree.

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It's the board's call, not Trump's.

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Are we still going with this schtick after he's basically come out and said himself that renovations won't occur without the name change?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/2026/09/16/lawmaker-requests-emergency-hearing-kennedy-center-remains-closed/

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Any responsible board would want the name change if that's what brings the funds. Exactly like renaming a stadium.

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Just the actions of a petulant child.

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I agree. The judge should be removed from the bench.

So, not that I give a flying fornication about this stupid "issue", but trying to see of I am getting this straight:


1) The place is falling apart, and has been, for awhile now.
2) Trump has arranged for private funds to go towards fixing an iconic venue.
3) As such, the actual board, not Trump, has proposed a name change.
4) Trump, of course, is welcome to such an honor.
5) Some ****tard of a "judge" says that the controlling body, the aforementioned board, can't do that.



Have I gotten it right?

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It's the board's call, not Trump's.

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Are we still going with this schtick after he's basically come out and said himself that renovations won't occur without the name change?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/2026/09/16/lawmaker-requests-emergency-hearing-kennedy-center-remains-closed/

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Any responsible board would want the name change if that's what brings the funds. Exactly like renaming a stadium.

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Uuh, it's not a stadium.

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YET

Not a stadium YET!

I foresee a UFC fight in their future.

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Windy City Ag said:

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No, on average, it loses ~$100M per year. And did before Trump had anything to do with anything. And OBVIOUSLY these deferred maintenance issues are older than 2 years old. But common sense is lost.

Just another "Look what Trump broke" from our media.

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The center puts out annual reports. They show a consist revenue line of around $250 Million in revenue and $45 million Federal Appropriations to maintain the place. Everything else was funneled out to maintain its non-profit status.

This was until recently where revenue has plunged through the floor because artists have cancelled en masse and almost every donor has stopped giving due to the political football nature of the place.

The $100 Million deficit is not on average but a the latest forecast due to all the changes to the place.

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Call it what it is.

They don't want to donate because Trump. It's that simple. The donors are largely far left wing Democrats. They don't want ANY money going to ANYTHING that Trump could be involved in. If the entire center collapsed tomorrow, they wouldn't care, because Trump lost.


Trump was going to go out and fundraise from people that didn't have TDS.

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If Trump truly cared about the national performing arts center, he wouldn't insist on a name change.

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Perhaps.

But, if all those donors truly cared about the national performing arts center, THEY wouldn't insist there ISN'T a name change.

They care more that Trump loses than if the national performing arts center gets improved.

Notice that Trump was DOING IT and then the TDS donors FOUGHT IT. They could have supported the renovation and sucked it up that Trump's name might be somewhere on it. But, that was a hill they were willing to die on.

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Think about it this way. Let's say in a few years the Lincoln Memorial is in such disrepair it needs an incredibly expensive repair job. And because your worst nightmare came true, President Talarico raises the money to fix it with the caveat it is renamed the James Talarico Lincoln Memorial.

Cool?

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Meh...

I'd think it would be stupid, but I wouldn't care that much.

However, that's not even what's being asked here...

So, your analogy starts with a false premise.

It would be more like:

The ABRAHAM LINCOLN MEMORIAL

--Renovations provided by President James Talarico

That would be stupid, but not the same. The Kennedy center is not a monument to JFK. It would be more like renaming a stadium or airport, it has a name but serves another purpose, and if he wanted to rename Reagan or Dulles airport after himself I wouldn't really care.

Now what would really be stupid, is if that airport badly needed upgrades and people chose to do nothing and let it fall apart because they hated the president and didn't want it renamed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/2026/09/17/photo-trump-shows-printout-that-seems-refer-kennedy-center-demolition/

Judge had to intervene on the possible demo.

"Lawyer's representing Rep. Joyce Beatty (D-Ohio), a Kennedy Center trustee suing her fellow board members, argued that the images and Trump's remarks show he is "actively considering demolition of the entire structure."

They asked the court to make "crystal clear that its order prohibits demolishing the structure."U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper on Thursday turned down Beatty's request for an emergency hearing, but ordered a detailed status update by Sept. 23. He also ordered the center to provide more than 30 days' notice of any change in its construction plans, including any prospect of demolition.

The photographs of Trump do not establish what the printout proposed, who prepared it or whether Trump or his administration is considering demolishing all or part of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts."

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https://www.npr.org/2026/09/17/nx-s1-5973036/trump-threat-tear-down-kennedy-center

Word on the street is he's going to demolish the center, there are barriers going up around it. That will teach them!

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It's not word on the street, it's what he said. They can just get it condemned if the idiot/partisan judge won't let them fix it.

Trump on why it’s important for him to have his name the Kennedy Center: For me to go and fix it and subsidize it, I think the Trump Administration should have recognition. If we don’t do that, it’s going to close and get ripped down. pic.twitter.com/3d2Rt2TE6p

— Acyn (@Acyn) September 16, 2026

He can get his 30 days notice but I would be unsurprised if demolition winds up starting in around 6 months after some drama.

My 10 yr old nephew will smash the monopoly board when he loses.

That 10 year old needs their ass busted. Quality parenting there.

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Uuh, it's not a stadium. It's a memorial.

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No, it isn't.

You know what IS a memorial? Texas Memorial Stadium at the University of Texas. It was renamed to include Darrell Royal's name, which I was against, but it's still a memorial to all Texans who have fought on behalf of America in war.

I guess changes can't be made at the White House because it's so iconic and they can't be made at the Kennedy Crnter because it's sacred enough that it cannturnnintonanwacred pile of rubble.

The question is how much money democrats laundered instead of using it to maintain the building.

Trump's board should flip the field and propose turning the Kennedy center into a mosque. Dare the demo-nazi's to oppose that.

The hard on for this building is palpable.

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I don't understand why Trump's in such a hurry to get his name on things. He's obviously the best most effective and alpha dog dude president in the history of the country and is universally beloved by everyone.

Why not just wait a few years and bask in the glow of an eternally grateful nation damn near snapping its collective pelvis in two naming everything after him? Obviously that's going to happen, right?

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His gold coins are to be released by the US mint just after Election Day. If you are nice, I will order you one.

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The hard on for this building is palpable.

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No doubt. The Dems and the corrupt judges popping wood on this is beyond understanding. Pure unadulterated TDS.

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That 10 year old needs their ass busted. Quality parenting there.

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Probably just imitating their aunt / uncle's reaction to anything Trump does.

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Windy City Ag said:

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No, on average, it loses ~$100M per year. And did before Trump had anything to do with anything. And OBVIOUSLY these deferred maintenance issues are older than 2 years old. But common sense is lost.

Just another "Look what Trump broke" from our media.

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The center puts out annual reports. They show a consist revenue line of around $250 Million in revenue and $45 million Federal Appropriations to maintain the place. Everything else was funneled out to maintain its non-profit status.

This was until recently where revenue has plunged through the floor because artists have cancelled en masse and almost every donor has stopped giving due to the political football nature of the place.

The $100 Million deficit is not on average but a the latest forecast due to all the changes to the place.

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Call it what it is.

They don't want to donate because Trump. It's that simple. The donors are largely far left wing Democrats. They don't want ANY money going to ANYTHING that Trump could be involved in. If the entire center collapsed tomorrow, they wouldn't care, because Trump lost.


Trump was going to go out and fundraise from people that didn't have TDS.

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If Trump truly cared about the national performing arts center, he wouldn't insist on a name change.

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Perhaps.

But, if all those donors truly cared about the national performing arts center, THEY wouldn't insist there ISN'T a name change.

They care more that Trump loses than if the national performing arts center gets improved.

Notice that Trump was DOING IT and then the TDS donors FOUGHT IT. They could have supported the renovation and sucked it up that Trump's name might be somewhere on it. But, that was a hill they were willing to die on.

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Think about it this way. Let's say in a few years the Lincoln Memorial is in such disrepair it needs an incredibly expensive repair job. And because your worst nightmare came true, President Talarico raises the money to fix it with the caveat it is renamed the James Talarico Lincoln Memorial.

Cool?

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Meh...

I'd think it would be stupid, but I wouldn't care that much.

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Utterly laughable - you'd stroke out if something like that happened.

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No I wouldn't. There have been lots and lots of actual consequential things that Dems did that I thought were horrible (the Inflation Reduction Act, for instance). And I didn't stroke out over any of them.

This would be down in the noise for me.

But, I'm sure that you've been getting quite verklempt over the past 1.5 years over some of the inconsequential things Trump is trying to do - and this name change is one of them.

Personally I don't care if the name changes or not - I've only tried to explain what actually happened here as opposed to the hyperbolic misinformation being bandied about.

It is literally written into law as a memorial.

You can act like it isn't, I guess?

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The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, designated by this subchapter, shall be the sole national memorial to the late John Fitzgerald Kennedy within the city of Washington and its environs."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/76q

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It is literally written into law as a memorial.

You can act like it isn't, I guess?

"
The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, designated by this subchapter, shall be the sole national memorial to the late John Fitzgerald Kennedy within the city of Washington and its environs."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/76q

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Well, I was wrong. Good enough. Now why haven't democrats maintained it!despite taking a lot of money over the years to do so?

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It is literally written into law as a memorial.

You can act like it isn't, I guess?

"
The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, designated by this subchapter, shall be the sole national memorial to the late John Fitzgerald Kennedy within the city of Washington and its environs."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/76q

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Well, I was wrong. Good enough. Now why haven't democrats maintained it!despite taking a lot of money over the years to do so?

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"I was dead ass wrong....but, here's why it's STILL the democrats fault anyway. There's NO WAY my God Emperor/idol is acting like a child throwing a tantrum...it's the libtards fault."

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Fresh As I Is said:

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It is literally written into law as a memorial.

You can act like it isn't, I guess?

"
The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, designated by this subchapter, shall be the sole national memorial to the late John Fitzgerald Kennedy within the city of Washington and its environs."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/76q

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Well, I was wrong. Good enough. Now why haven't democrats maintained it!despite taking a lot of money over the years to do so?

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Who was in charge from 2017-2020? It didn't fall into shambles in four years.

Ervin Burrell said:

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It is literally written into law as a memorial.

You can act like it isn't, I guess?

"
The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, designated by this subchapter, shall be the sole national memorial to the late John Fitzgerald Kennedy within the city of Washington and its environs."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/76q

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Well, I was wrong. Good enough. Now why haven't democrats maintained it!despite taking a lot of money over the years to do so?

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"I was dead ass wrong....but, here's why it's STILL the democrats fault anyway. There's NO WAY my God Emperor/idol is acting like a child throwing a tantrum...it's the libtards fault."

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It's one thing to be a sore loser. Almost understandable. Nobody likes to lose. To be a sore winner, however, shows a severe lack of character.

Ervin Burrell said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Fresh As I Is said:

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It is literally written into law as a memorial.

You can act like it isn't, I guess?

"
The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, designated by this subchapter, shall be the sole national memorial to the late John Fitzgerald Kennedy within the city of Washington and its environs."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/76q

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Well, I was wrong. Good enough. Now why haven't democrats maintained it!despite taking a lot of money over the years to do so?

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"I was dead ass wrong....but, here's why it's STILL the democrats fault anyway. There's NO WAY my God Emperor/idol is acting like a child throwing a tantrum...it's the libtards fault."

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It WAS a legitimate question.

The left threw a hissy fit when he started trying to fix it. They even filed lawsuits to stop it.

Even though, it's acknowledged by the left wing media that the center needs a LOT of renovation.

So, if they care about it, why are they fighting to stop it from being renovated?


Well...we know...

Because Orange Man Bad.

It drives the entire existence of the left nowadays.

Ervin Burrell said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Fresh As I Is said:

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It is literally written into law as a memorial.

You can act like it isn't, I guess?

"
The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, designated by this subchapter, shall be the sole national memorial to the late John Fitzgerald Kennedy within the city of Washington and its environs."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/76q

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Well, I was wrong. Good enough. Now why haven't democrats maintained it!despite taking a lot of money over the years to do so?

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"I was dead ass wrong....but, here's why it's STILL the democrats fault anyway. There's NO WAY my God Emperor/idol is acting like a child throwing a tantrum...it's the libtards fault."

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The statute says that the Center will be the sole memorial to JFK in the limits of DC. The law says nothing about adding to the name or renaming the Center. In fact what this law actually seems to do is prohibits future erection of national memorials to JFK.