Crockett vs. Talarico -> Democratic Primary for Senate Showdown

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txags92
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Talarico has three problems that are insurmountable for a dem politician:

1. He is white.
2. He is male.
3. He is trying to position himself as a centrist.

You can overcome the first two and win a democratic primary in today's political world if you are the candidate farthest to the left of the field. With Crockett in the field as a black woman and the farthest left, he might as well drop out now.
Logos Stick
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MAGA is not far right.
DallasAg 94
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Crockett is an elected US HoR, correct? She literally was voted on and elected to represent a constituency. She gets media coverage because can vote and make policy.

Fuentes could be any no-name podcaster without a single ssubscriber.

We should have some awareness of the 435 US HoRs.
shiftyandquick
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Logos Stick said:

MAGA is not far right.

agreed. It is actually authoritarian and populist and wildly corrupt, with notions of command economy and oligarchy.
shiftyandquick
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DallasAg 94 said:


We should have some awareness of the 435 US HoRs.

That's funny. Most of them are completely anonymous. You have the leadership, and then mostly the people who make a big stink and self-promote and get their names out there.
austinAG90
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shiftyandquick said:

austinAG90 said:

Doesn't know anything about Crockett. Everyone knows who Crockett is. Your candidate I have no idea, but then again I don't follow Dems other than for comic relief.

Tell us your a troll without saying it.

The only place I hear about Crockett is here on Texags. And I haven't paid attention to those threads.

Why? The reason I suspect is that the far right media uses her as a foil. So if you follow far right media, then you've seen a lot about her. Whereas the left/centrist media does not talk about her very much at all.

I don't follow far right media.

Another example is this: how come so many MAGA people here claimed to have never heard of Fuentes? I had seen LOTS of stuff on Fuentes prior to Kirk's death. Because the left/centrists use Fuentes as a foil and warn about the danger of his ideology. Whereas right wing media (until recently) pretended like he didn't exist, and certainly didn't warn their consumers about him.

Maybe I'm a tad old but I had never heard of Fuentes until the Nazi lovers on here mentioned him.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

MAGA is not far right.

agreed. It is actually authoritarian and populist and wildly corrupt, with notions of command economy and oligarchy.


This is rich coming from a poster that supports the communist party(dems).
LMCane
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David_Puddy said:

Cornyn will be the opponent, not Cruz

you don't know that

could be Paxton or Wesley
MelvinUdall
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shiftyandquick said:

austinAG90 said:

Doesn't know anything about Crockett. Everyone knows who Crockett is. Your candidate I have no idea, but then again I don't follow Dems other than for comic relief.

Tell us your a troll without saying it.

The only place I hear about Crockett is here on Texags. And I haven't paid attention to those threads.

Why? The reason I suspect is that the far right media uses her as a foil. So if you follow far right media, then you've seen a lot about her. Whereas the left/centrist media does not talk about her very much at all.

I don't follow far right media.

Another example is this: how come so many MAGA people here claimed to have never heard of Fuentes? I had seen LOTS of stuff on Fuentes prior to Kirk's death. Because the left/centrists use Fuentes as a foil and warn about the danger of his ideology. Whereas right wing media (until recently) pretended like he didn't exist, and certainly didn't warn their consumers about him.


She has been all over MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC, etc…unless you watch no news whatsoever, then you are lying that you don't know who she is, just in passing you should know her…this is a massive troll thread.
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LMCane said:

David_Puddy said:

Cornyn will be the opponent, not Cruz

you don't know that

could be Paxton or Wesley


In the primary it is all of them, Cruz seat is not up.
LMCane
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

I wish Cornyn would just go away already. It sucks we continually get stuck voting for that RINO because of a bunch of squishy independents that vote in the primary. The Texas Republican Party is a joke. A bunch of democrats in sheep's clothing.


the best solution would be old Cornyn resigning (and I like the guy but he is too old)

and he and Trump both endorse Wesley Hunt

up and coming black Army officer, very conservative and has Congressional experience.
shiftyandquick
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LMCane said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

I wish Cornyn would just go away already. It sucks we continually get stuck voting for that RINO because of a bunch of squishy independents that vote in the primary. The Texas Republican Party is a joke. A bunch of democrats in sheep's clothing.


the best solution would be old Cornyn resigning (and I like the guy but he is too old)

and he and Trump both endorse Wesley Hunt

up and coming black Army officer, very conservative and has Congressional experience.

if he was a true conservative and stood up for conservatism, Trump wouldn't endorse him.
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shiftyandquick said:

I wonder to what extent this caught Talarico off-guard. Of course I have been following Talarico closely. I don't know much of anything about Crockett, other than she has been outspoken, controversial, and pretty far left (correct me if I'm wrong). Which has led to her being a kind of minor star on the far left.

Talarico on the other hand is more centrist, practical, incorporates discussion of religious ethics and his own Christianity. Much more Texas-based, having been a state representative in the state government. A rising star in the Democratic Party in his own right.

It was a little interesting last night to read a FB post asking for money from Talarico in the wake of the Crockett announcement and the need to win the primary against her, and then reading the comments. Many people were saying "I wish I could vote for you both." Or, "you should now run for governor instead." Or, "I was going to send money to you now, but I regret to say that I will now be supporting Crockett." Who knows if these are actually real people or bots or disinformation actors.

A well-fought well-executed primary can make a candidate stronger. However will Talarico now have to hew left in order to win the primary? Or can a more centrist candidate win? The GOP has the same dilemma. Vote for far-right MAGA tainted Paxton, or "moderate MAGA" Cornyn?

My support for Democrats doesn't come from a place of "I love Democrats." It comes from the place of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I.e. anti-MAGA.

I will definitely be supporting Talarico.

"his own Christianity"........unfortunately not the one representing Jesus the Christ.

shifty, don't be led astray by this man's articulation of who Jesus is.....it's certainly incomplete and notably wrong. The only salvation "his Jesus" offers is accommodation and the path down the road paved with good intentions that leads you where you don't want to be.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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shiftyandquick said:

austinAG90 said:

Doesn't know anything about Crockett. Everyone knows who Crockett is. Your candidate I have no idea, but then again I don't follow Dems other than for comic relief.

Tell us your a troll without saying it.

The only place I hear about Crockett is here on Texags. And I haven't paid attention to those threads.

Why? The reason I suspect is that the far right media uses her as a foil. So if you follow far right media, then you've seen a lot about her. Whereas the left/centrist media does not talk about her very much at all.

I don't follow far right media.

Another example is this: how come so many MAGA people here claimed to have never heard of Fuentes? I had seen LOTS of stuff on Fuentes prior to Kirk's death. Because the left/centrists use Fuentes as a foil and warn about the danger of his ideology. Whereas right wing media (until recently) pretended like he didn't exist, and certainly didn't warn their consumers about him.

Don't know anything about Crackpot? Here's all you need to know:

Certifiable Lunatic. HTH
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
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shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

MAGA is not far right.

agreed. It is actually authoritarian and populist and wildly corrupt, with notions of command economy and oligarchy.

"ChatGPT: please give me a one-sentence description of MAGA that include as many MSNBC talking points as possible, while making me sound intelligent, and without giving any specifics. Make sure the sentence isn't too long, I've gotta hop back on a message board as soon as possible."
America was built on speed, hot, nasty, badass speed.
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Keller6Ag91 said:

"his own Christianity"........unfortunately not the one representing Jesus the Christ.

shifty, don't be led astray by this man's articulation of who Jesus is.....it's certainly incomplete and notably wrong. The only salvation "his Jesus" offers is accommodation and the path down the road paved with good intentions that leads you where you don't want to be.

Shifty doesn't care. He thinks people that love the country will destroy it, so he votes for people who hate the country and want to destroy it.
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shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

MAGA is not far right.

agreed. It is actually authoritarian and populist and wildly corrupt, with notions of command economy and oligarchy.


Cornyn is not maga or far right. He likely won't be supported by Trump over Paxton.

As a self professed Reagan Republican would you supporter Cornyn over Talarico?
aggieforester05
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Anyone that claims MAGA is a bigger threat than the Democrats is not a conservative and has certainly been brainwashed by left-wing propaganda.

There are many valid criticisms of Trump and MAGA, but the current Democrat party and their propaganda army is the greatest threat this country has ever faced.
backintexas2013
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It's from his Reddit group.
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captkirk
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TexAgs91 said:

For dems, insanity always wins over logic

TexAgs91
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omg... they'll never stop with their reparations will they. We'll just have to never stop with the gtfo
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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YouBet
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shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

MAGA is not far right.

agreed. It is actually authoritarian and populist and wildly corrupt, with notions of command economy and oligarchy.


Democrats through their own policy and actions are the definition of authoritarian, wildly corrupt, pro-command economy in all things, and run their elections through a DNC which is effectively an oligarchy of a few people who pick the POTUS.

So your answer to fight these issues is to vote for the party who wraps itself in these very issues as a matter of their core policy plank.

Again, how do you reconcile the absolute contradiction of being a Reagan Republican while voting for a 2025 Democrat? Why can't you ever answer this question?
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captkirk said:

TexAgs91 said:

For dems, insanity always wins over logic




I'm good with that and in return they don't get to vote in any elections.
richardag
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austinAG90 said:

shiftyandquick said:

austinAG90 said:

Doesn't know anything about Crockett. Everyone knows who Crockett is. Your candidate I have no idea, but then again I don't follow Dems other than for comic relief.

Tell us your a troll without saying it.

The only place I hear about Crockett is here on Texags. And I haven't paid attention to those threads.

Why? The reason I suspect is that the far right media uses her as a foil. So if you follow far right media, then you've seen a lot about her. Whereas the left/centrist media does not talk about her very much at all.

I don't follow far right media.

Another example is this: how come so many MAGA people here claimed to have never heard of Fuentes? I had seen LOTS of stuff on Fuentes prior to Kirk's death. Because the left/centrists use Fuentes as a foil and warn about the danger of his ideology. Whereas right wing media (until recently) pretended like he didn't exist, and certainly didn't warn their consumers about him.

Maybe I'm a tad old but I had never heard of Fuentes until the Nazi lovers on here mentioned him.

Maybe I'm a tad old but I had never heard of Fuentes until the Nazi haters on here mentioned him.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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BigRobSA
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Talarico vs Jasmine?

LOLtards, the both of them. The peanuts in my **** are smarter.
richardag
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shiftyandquick said:

austinAG90 said:

Doesn't know anything about Crockett. Everyone knows who Crockett is. Your candidate I have no idea, but then again I don't follow Dems other than for comic relief.

Tell us your a troll without saying it.

…,,,
I don't follow far right media.
,,,…,,,

Interesting, that begs the question; to what media do you listen?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
richardag
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shiftyandquick said:

LMCane said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

I wish Cornyn would just go away already. It sucks we continually get stuck voting for that RINO because of a bunch of squishy independents that vote in the primary. The Texas Republican Party is a joke. A bunch of democrats in sheep's clothing.


the best solution would be old Cornyn resigning (and I like the guy but he is too old)

and he and Trump both endorse Wesley Hunt

up and coming black Army officer, very conservative and has Congressional experience.

if he was a true conservative and stood up for conservatism, Trump wouldn't endorse him.

First, could you define a conservative, seems different people have different definitions. Me personally, a conservative's first allegiance is to the Constitution as our Founding Fathers defined.
To what facts do you base this assumption that President Trump wouldn't endorse him?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Ag87H2O
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Teslag said:

David_Puddy said:

No kidding. He is apparently shifty and quick when doing any sort of research on the guy.


The OP claims to be a "Reagan republican" but Talarico is so far to the left of Reagan that it makes that claim entirely ridiculous.

I think he's been aTalrico supporter from the start because he thought Democrats could sell the Talrico is a centrist BS. Now that Crockett is in the race, she has a leg up and he knows the centrist dog won't hunt with her so he's pumping up Talrico as much as he can. He knows with Crockett as the Democrat candidate that the Democrats are all but guaranteeing another Republican victory.

He's shifty and quick but he's not dumb. He knows what is coming and is frustrated and worried.
txags92
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YouBet said:

captkirk said:

TexAgs91 said:

For dems, insanity always wins over logic




I'm good with that and in return they don't get to vote in any elections.

Part of every reparations package should include a return plane ticket to their ancestral family homeland and renunciation of citizenship in the country their ancestors were forced to join. If you take the package, you go back "home" and don't come back.
YouBet
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txags92 said:

YouBet said:

captkirk said:

TexAgs91 said:

For dems, insanity always wins over logic




I'm good with that and in return they don't get to vote in any elections.

Part of every reparations package should include a return plane ticket to their ancestral family homeland and renunciation of citizenship in the country their ancestors were forced to join. If you take the package, you go back "home" and don't come back.


Even better but I would take no ability to vote.
BigRobSA
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Just imagine the reparations for the Euros taken by the Barbary pirates and enslaved, which is multitudes more than Africans that were enslaved and brought here.
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I, as a staunch conservative feel it is my duty to vote for Crocket in the primary.
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richardag said:

shiftyandquick said:

austinAG90 said:

Doesn't know anything about Crockett. Everyone knows who Crockett is. Your candidate I have no idea, but then again I don't follow Dems other than for comic relief.

Tell us your a troll without saying it.

…,,,
I don't follow far right media.
,,,…,,,

Interesting, that begs the question; to what media do you listen?

I scan Drudge for headlines. CNN website. NYTimes website (have subscription). I occasionally check out Dallas Morning News. Whatever comes up on my FB feed (and the algorithm feeds me a lot of anti-MAGA stuff, as you can imagine). I don't watch very much cable news at all. A tiny bit of CNN. Radio, occasional NPR when the Ticket goes to commercial or is boring. For a short time I listened to BBC podcast. I have a free subscription to WSJ, but I don't go there much at all, unless an aggregator like Drudge links to there.
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shiftyandquick said:

I wonder to what extent this caught Talarico off-guard. Of course I have been following Talarico closely. I don't know much of anything about Crockett, other than she has been outspoken, controversial, and pretty far left (correct me if I'm wrong). Which has led to her being a kind of minor star on the far left.

Talarico on the other hand is more centrist

Stopped reading right there. Dear lord
 
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