Sen. Mark Kelly

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It's not a nothing burger, these people knew what they were doing and should be severely punished for their reckless crimes.

And not just Kelly but wasn't Slotkin in the CIA? Think she didn't know what she was doing?
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aggiehawg said:

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It's not a nothing burger, these people knew what they were doing and should be severely punished for their reckless crimes.

And not just Kelly but wasn't Slotkin in the CIA? Think she didn't know what she was doing?

From a purely political point of view, what these six did, knowing there could be consequences, would be helpful to the party when it comes to keeping the left riled up and have something to "fight for/against" come the mid-terms, and what better way to keep the left riled than for them to have someone who "sacrificed" themselves for fighting against the "evil" Trump and his administration?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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aggiehawg said:

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It's not a nothing burger, these people knew what they were doing and should be severely punished for their reckless crimes.

And not just Kelly but wasn't Slotkin in the CIA? Think she didn't know what she was doing?

Yes, she was creating a propaganda video in the same format the CIA uses to topple governments in foreign countries.

There's a thread on tigerdroppings discussing this in detail:

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/11/22/fmr-cia-ops-officer-slotkin-knew-exactly-what-she-was-putting-together-with-her-little-propaganda-video/
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aggieforester05 said:

richardag said:

aggieforester05 said:

HTownAg98 said:

aggiehawg said:

Game on?



Oh noes! Scheduling interviews where the people they want to interview can (and should) tell the FBI to go pound sand.

The only way they can get out of this is to lie to the FBI about their intent, which is also a crime. That's what they'll do, because Democrats are pathological liars with no ethical boundaries.

They also know they only need one left wing juror to get them out of any felony and since all of these cases will be tried in urban liberal enclaves, they can do whatever they want with impunity. Hopefully this at least has severe personal financial consequences.

Court Marshals Maritals Martials have juries?

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The FBI scheduling interviews with these seditionists has nothing to do with a potential court-martial for Kelly.

I wasn't referring to the FBI potential interviews(see what I made bold fonts above).
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richardag said:

aggieforester05 said:

richardag said:

aggieforester05 said:

HTownAg98 said:

aggiehawg said:

Game on?



Oh noes! Scheduling interviews where the people they want to interview can (and should) tell the FBI to go pound sand.

The only way they can get out of this is to lie to the FBI about their intent, which is also a crime. That's what they'll do, because Democrats are pathological liars with no ethical boundaries.

They also know they only need one left wing juror to get them out of any felony and since all of these cases will be tried in urban liberal enclaves, they can do whatever they want with impunity. Hopefully this at least has severe personal financial consequences.

Court Marshals Maritals Martials have juries?

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The FBI scheduling interviews with these seditionists has nothing to do with a potential court-martial for Kelly.

I wasn't referring to the FBI potential interviews(see what I made bold fonts above).

Well we were talking about the FBI interviews and therefore federal crimes. I don't know if USCMJ even has a felony designation or juries, but that isn't what I was referring to in the highlighted text.
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UCMJ varies not only by service branch but also tiers or levels of court martial proceedings and whether there will be a jury or not. Seriousness of crime and level of punishment available.

For more info read HERE
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Pucker up big talker. Running to the press may get you a license to speak freely, now you get to back it up.
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No Spin Ag said:

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TOUCHDOWN! said:

Investigated for telling people to follow the law?


Except that is not what they did. There would be no point in that. Instead they unlawfully encouraged dissension in the military chain of command. That's not just illegal, it's extremely dangerous.

Lock em up, find them guilty, execute the punishment.


I've only seen a few videos, but from what I've seen, they say to not follow unlawful orders. I didn't see where they said to hit follow all or any order.

Does someone have a clip that shows where they say to disobey lawful orders?


Are you dense? The whole point of the video was to make the the typical D voter believe that Trump is issuing illegal orders. He's not. But you know that. So maybe you're not dense. Just TDS
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Are you dense? The whole point of the video was to make the the typical D voter believe that Trump is issuing illegal orders.

And to encourage insubordination. Which is a crime in and of itself.
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Azeew said:

No Spin Ag said:

flown-the-coop said:

TOUCHDOWN! said:

Investigated for telling people to follow the law?


Except that is not what they did. There would be no point in that. Instead they unlawfully encouraged dissension in the military chain of command. That's not just illegal, it's extremely dangerous.

Lock em up, find them guilty, execute the punishment.


I've only seen a few videos, but from what I've seen, they say to not follow unlawful orders. I didn't see where they said to hit follow all or any order.

Does someone have a clip that shows where they say to disobey lawful orders?


Are you dense? The whole point of the video was to make the the typical D voter believe that Trump is issuing illegal orders. He's not. But you know that. So maybe you're not dense. Just TDS


Neither, I just never watched the video.

I just did, and you're right, they're making it seem like Trump and his people are giving illegal orders.

Will what they said be enough for any real repercussions? Who knows, but, yeah, everything being done to them is what i would do if I were the ones calling the shots.
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Bust Kelly from captain to ltjg.
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Will what they said be enough for any real repercussions? Who knows, but, yeah, everything being done to them is what i would do if I were the ones calling the shots.

Kelly is facing the most liability here, I think because UCMJ adds an additional legal issue for him.

But all of them are subject to solicitation of insubordination investigations. What happens during the investigation is another matter
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aggiehawg said:

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Will what they said be enough for any real repercussions? Who knows, but, yeah, everything being done to them is what i would do if I were the ones calling the shots.

Kelly is facing the most liability here, I think because UCMJ adds an additional legal issue for him.

But all of them are subject to solicitation of insubordination investigations. What happens during the investigation is another matter


Any idea how long this all might take?
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Depends on what Kelly does. He can get this off of the front page, or fuel the fire.

I had a good friend who was one of the preeminent criminal lawyers in Austin. He often said to just lay low and let any case age like wine. The longer a case just doesn't get attention, the easier it is to ultimately fight.

But Kelly will likely ignore any legal advice to STFU because he's an elected official and politics rules his view of the world. To paraphrase Ron White, Kelly has, "the right to remain silent but lacks the ability."
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TOUCHDOWN! said:

Investigated for telling people to follow the law?


Surely you don't believe this is what was intended in those statements….

I am more and more frustrated with the left's mealy-mouthed responses…. Nobody is really stupid enough to think the intention of these senators and congressmen was to tell them to obey the law.
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mslags97 said:

TOUCHDOWN! said:

Investigated for telling people to follow the law?


Surely you don't believe this is what was intended in those statements….

I am more and more frustrated with the left's mealy-mouthed responses…. Nobody is really stupid enough to think the intention of these senators and congressmen was to tell them to obey the law.


That poster you replied to was Shanked Punt. Don't be surprised.
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"Curious: how many astronauts have you been in a room with and had to interface with in any professional capacity?"

About 20 that I dealt with in various panels, boards, and a few more socially. A couple as neighbors in El Lago. I also spent 20 Shuttle missions on console listening to their antics on the comm loops.
I spent many hours writing anomaly reports because a few couldn't admit they didn't follow procedures and blamed the hardware.
I also worked with Billy Uh-Oh after he was flushed out and needed a job in the private space sector.

There were about 3 that were stellar individuals. I'm not saying the ego was not justified by accomplishments, but most carried it to a fault.
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aggiehawg said:

Depends on what Kelly does. He can get this off of the front page, or fuel the fire.

I had a good friend who was one of the preeminent criminal lawyers in Austin. He often said to just lay low and let any case age like wine. The longer a case just doesn't get attention, the easier it is to ultimately fight.

But Kelly will likely ignore any legal advice to STFU because he's an elected official and politics rules his view of the world. To paraphrase Ron White, Kelly has, "the right to remain silent but lacks the ability."


Make sense. And, yes, as an elected official attention seeking is in his DNA.
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1) Username fits

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Billy Uh-Oh


Who is this? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Rick Husband was a good guy…Charlie Hobaugh was funny as hell when I worked with him…if you like a dry sense of humor…

I knew several good ones…Mark ain't one of them…
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Story time.
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Orbital Debris said:

"Curious: how many astronauts have you been in a room with and had to interface with in any professional capacity?"

About 20 that I dealt with in various panels, boards, and a few more socially. A couple as neighbors in El Lago. I also spent 20 Shuttle missions on console listening to their antics on the comm loops.
I spent many hours writing anomaly reports because a few couldn't admit they didn't follow procedures and blamed the hardware.
I also worked with Billy Uh-Oh after he was flushed out and needed a job in the private space sector.

There were about 3 that were stellar individuals. I'm not saying the ego was not justified by accomplishments, but most carried it to a fault.

Thanks, that's interesting. Wasn't my experience at all but not all that surprising, I guess.
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CanyonAg77 said:

1) Username fits

2)
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Billy Uh-Oh


Who is this? Inquiring minds want to know.

Navy callsign was BillyO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Oefelein
Not a bad wingman if you are hanging in Vegas, but not too bright in some ways. "Even a dog knows not to defecate where he sleeps".

The only one I would name, don't want to derail the thread.

My point being that pretending Marky Mark is a patriot because he is an astronaut is silly.
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Orbital Debris said:

CanyonAg77 said:

1) Username fits

2)
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Billy Uh-Oh


Who is this? Inquiring minds want to know.

Navy callsign was BillyO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Oefelein
Not a bad wingman if you are hanging in Vegas, but not too bright in some ways. "Even a dog knows not to defecate where he sleeps".

The only one I would name, don't want to derail the thread.

My point being that pretending Marky Mark is a patriot because he is an astronaut is silly.


Not derailing the thread. We are discussing how astronauts are full of themselves and have the ego the size of Jupiter.

Side note, wasn't William the one that was caught up with the crazy astronaut who drove halfway across country wearing a diaper.
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Orbital Debris said:

CanyonAg77 said:

1) Username fits

2)
Quote:

Billy Uh-Oh


Who is this? Inquiring minds want to know.

Navy callsign was BillyO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Oefelein
Not a bad wingman if you are hanging in Vegas, but not too bright in some ways. "Even a dog knows not to defecate where he sleeps".

The only one I would name, don't want to derail the thread.

My point being that pretending Marky Mark is a patriot because he is an astronaut is silly.


You should post more.

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ETFan said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Senator Mark Kelly in hot water after making the ICE video. I hope the rest of the dems in the video, get slapped around. They are nothing but traitors to our country.



Kelly has more patriotism in his left pinky toe than 99% of this board or the entire Trump family (who never served).

This entire thing is a massive, embarrassing joke for Trump.

This will go the way of Comey if they peruse it.



Really? Pretty bold statement standing on a pile of feelz and ignorance.
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Apologies to any former midshipmen who are on this board, but there is something seriously wrong with the Naval Academy. I have met more hardcore leftists who went to the Naval Academy than officers from any other service academy or branch of the military. I used to be proud of the nomination I received to the Naval Academy, nowadays I'm just thankful I decided to not go there and went to A&M instead.
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Isn't the Naval Academy where the "communism will win" picture was taken?
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Decay said:

Isn't the Naval Academy where the "communism will win" picture was taken?

You talmbout the guy with the Che Guevara shirt? Pretty sure that was west point
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Who went to the naval academy?
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In essence the J.A.G. will have to find CAPT Kelly guilty of reading off the UCMJ as a P.S.A., this should get interesting.
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Burpelson said:

In essence the J.A.G. will have to find CAPT Kelly guilty of reading off the UCMJ as a P.S.A., this should get interesting.


I don't disagree with you, but the video delivered a message encouraging insurrection within the military.

Comey delivered a message in a similar slimy, weak manner with the "8647" picture and unbelievable explanation.

The libs and their puppet masters realize their situation on several fronts is grim and are preparing their team for a civil war. Just what Soros wants.
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Burpelson said:

In essence the J.A.G. will have to find CAPT Kelly guilty of reading off the UCMJ as a P.S.A., this should get interesting.
Its not the words Kelly said that will get him in trouble, it's the context of his words juxtaposed against a Trump sound bite implying that Trump's orders are illegal.
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This post was classsic TexAgs message boarding.

"Somebody was a NASA astronaut? Meh. Probably just an arrogant loser. I have met N of them personally so you can trust my message board credentials. Mostly arrogant losers."
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Burpelson said:

In essence the J.A.G. will have to find CAPT Kelly guilty of reading off the UCMJ as a P.S.A., this should get interesting.


Yeah, I think it will be very difficult legal case to make, and IMO the Trump administration will have to be careful how they proceed here to not make it look like those folks are being unfairly over-prosecuted for political reasons. When the Dems did that to Trump with all those dubious New York legal cases it seemed to actually more help Trump politically rather than hurt him. And the same could potentially happen here in the reverse if the Trump admin overplays their cards in retaliation.

The people who made that video are experienced and politically savvy and that message was no doubt carefully worded and potential responses by the Trump admin entered in the calculations. None of those people have to worry about paying a cent of any legal costs as 3rd party funding would be available. The Trump admin will need to be smart about how they react to not play into their opponents hands.
 
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