BigRobSA said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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There was hope when Trump got elected first time that a business acumen would work well to clean up the government.

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LOL

Bless your heart

Why would business "acumen" do that? Especially a businessman like Trump who is well-known in the business world to do dirty **** . Beyond that tidbit, "business" is pretty dirty.

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Talk of Trump screwing people in business is vastly overstated, overestimated.

I know plenty of business me who are not dirty, including myself.

Always, Trump got this BigRob.

infinity ag said:

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I would like Homeless Steve to get $2000 instead of Trump sending me a check for example.

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If any money is sent, send it to those who are paying income tax, not those who don't and are likely already a drain on the system.

You, and those with a similar mindset, can send money to Homeless Steve.

infinity ag said:

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Nothing wrong in wealth distribution to poor people. We distributed a lot of money to CEOs and wealthy people and you did not complain about that, did you?

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There is plenty wrong with wealth "redistribution" to poor people.

What was distributed to the CEOs that you have such a hard on over and to wealthy people?

How about using the tariffs to pay down the meager debt they can actually pay down?

God I hate liberals.

flown-the-coop said:

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Talk of Trump screwing people in business is vastly overstated, overestimated.

I know plenty of business me who are not dirty, including myself.

Always, Trump got this BigRob.

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Exactly what a dirty businessman would say.

;-)

As to Trump....tell that to all of the people he screwed over, like the 200 Irishmen who helped build one of his buildings.

He's better than Harris would have been, for sure.

That's a low bar to set....also for sure.

As to this tariff idiocy and the money pilfered from citizens (all taxation is theft) , just use it to pay down the debt. Any idea of handouts is doubling down on stupid.

infinity ag said:

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YouBet said:

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I would like Homeless Steve to get $2000 instead of Trump sending me a check for example.

The American habit of not saving and blowing up any spare cash they get their hands on needs to be curbed and curtailed.

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Seems contradictory.

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How so?

Homeless Steve needs money to eat and put a roof over his head.

I am well past that (never was in that situation). I am saving for retirement. Poor Steve has no chance of a good retirement as he will be panhandling at 80.

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We have a homeless "Steve" that comes by the food pantry, the local HUB office paid him $20 for cleaning up some trash. He bought beer and shared it with his local buddies. Another pantry visitor with a family got a grocery voucher, he bought meat and had a cookout with his homies. There is a reason the homeless and indigent are that way and it isn't due to lack of help.

infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Point to me the part of Regans economy that wasn't good?

Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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perfect reply

jeremy said:

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infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Point to me the part of Regans economy that wasn't good?

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Does Black Monday ring any bells?

BigRobSA said:

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Moronic idea.

Like tariffs.

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I thought you thought that the $ was lost anyways.

Might as well use that printed money to give it to working stiffs instead of banks.

Nope, I was a child. All I remember was after Regan got rolling, almost everyone had excess. Money, innovation, and excess was rampant across every class for the first time in America, really.

infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Empty spear throwing and name calling.

What was the worst part of trickle-down economics? What was the worst policy decision Regan made in that regard. Where was he wrong?

Do you agree that it was a good idea to reduce the top marginal income tax rate in 1979?

Because that and killing inflation were pretty good economic policies.

jeremy said:

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Nope, I was a child. All I remember was after Regan got rolling, almost everyone had excess. Money, innovation, and excess was rampant across every class for the first time in America, really.

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That's no excuse; I was a child then as well.

Maybe read a book.

BusterAg said:

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infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Empty spear throwing and name calling.

What was the worst part of trickle-down economics? What was the worst policy decision Regan made in that regard. Where was he wrong?

Do you agree that it was a good idea to reduce the top marginal income tax rate in 1979?

Because that and killing inflation were pretty good economic policies.

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I didn't call Reagan names. The name calling was for his his economy policy.

The worse part of trickle down economics is to give tax breaks to corps and to trust them enough that they will invest it back in a way that will create jobs and help the poor/middle classes. That did not happen to the level promised.

Trust anyone is a bad idea. You have to create regulations and penalize people for not following them. We had lax rules for H1B so we have situations where Indian companies file up to 80 H1B petitions for a single person. Trust no one.

infinity ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Empty spear throwing and name calling.

What was the worst part of trickle-down economics? What was the worst policy decision Regan made in that regard. Where was he wrong?

Do you agree that it was a good idea to reduce the top marginal income tax rate in 1979?

Because that and killing inflation were pretty good economic policies.

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I didn't call Reagan names. The name calling was for his his economy policy.

The worse part of trickle down economics is to give tax breaks to corps and to trust them enough that they will invest it back in a way that will create jobs and help the poor/middle classes. That did not happen to the level promised.

Trust anyone is a bad idea. You have to create regulations and penalize people for not following them. We had lax rules for H1B so we have situations where Indian companies file up to 80 H1B petitions for a single person. Trust no one.

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We aren't talking about H1B's. Don't derail.

Do you think that lowering the highest marginal personal income tax rate from the highs in 1970's was good or bad policy, or completely irrelevant?

As for how much US companies invested in themselves, how would you go about measuring that? Do you have a statistic that you would like to recommend? I'm interested in the data that you are relying on to come to your conclusion.

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jeremy said:

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Nope, I was a child. All I remember was after Regan got rolling, almost everyone had excess. Money, innovation, and excess was rampant across every class for the first time in America, really.

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That's no excuse; I was a child then as well.

Maybe read a book.

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I read lots of books. 80s economics isn't high on my list. If someone here is so educated on the subject
they are free to share. You seem well versed. Explain to me black Monday and why it was regans fault.

infinity ag said:

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If this is true and Trump is not trolling, then BAD TRUMP.

Here is what he should do instead.

1. Take all the tariff money and put it towards the federal debt. It won't be significant but it will show everyone that he is serious about the debt.
2. If he doesn't want to do it and do something populist instead, send the money to people who are not wealthy and struggling, not to wealthy folks like most of us here. I would like Homeless Steve to get $2000 instead of Trump sending me a check for example.

The American habit of not saving and blowing up any spare cash they get their hands on needs to be curbed and curtailed.


Trump could send Americans $2k tariff checks: How to invest it
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/trump-could-send-americans-2k-173020363.html

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US President Trump has floated giving American taxpayers an up to $2,000 check, in a payment "almost like a dividend" funded by tariffs.

PNC Asset Management Group chief investment officer Amanda Agati and Yahoo Finance Senior Reporters Brooke DiPalma and Ines Ferr discuss the potential Trump check.

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Tariffs will estimate to cost American people about $2,400 so this is just evening the score. Pretty much to buy off the voters that the tariffs are a bad idea. Just like the money going to the farmers, none of this money is going towards the debt

FFS it's "Reagan" not "Regan".

Donald Regan worked for Ronald Reagan

YouBet said:

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Well hell, Trump is now a fascist and a socialist at the same time!

Is there anything this guy can't accomplish?

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releasing the epstein files

Give the first round of checks to only Black people, reparations done forever, racism solved, liberal heads explode (literally). ...if only it were that easy.

infinity ag said:

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If this is true and Trump is not trolling, then BAD TRUMP.

Here is what he should do instead.

1. Take all the tariff money and put it towards the federal debt. It won't be significant but it will show everyone that he is serious about the debt.
2. If he doesn't want to do it and do something populist instead, send the money to people who are not wealthy and struggling, not to wealthy folks like most of us here. I would like Homeless Steve to get $2000 instead of Trump sending me a check for example.

The American habit of not saving and blowing up any spare cash they get their hands on needs to be curbed and curtailed.


Trump could send Americans $2k tariff checks: How to invest it
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/trump-could-send-americans-2k-173020363.html

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US President Trump has floated giving American taxpayers an up to $2,000 check, in a payment "almost like a dividend" funded by tariffs.

PNC Asset Management Group chief investment officer Amanda Agati and Yahoo Finance Senior Reporters Brooke DiPalma and Ines Ferr discuss the potential Trump check.

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This is a dumb idea. $2K isn't life changing money. It should be used towards the debt BUT…

You want to give my $2K (it's mine because I'm a net tax Payer) to a homeless person that going to spend it on dope or booze?

I want my money back so I can invest it. To hell with the poor. It's time we cater to the folks paying the damn bills around here.

Vegas would be happy because all the Dumbest and poorest citizens would go to Vegas on their check !

BusterAg said:

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infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Empty spear throwing and name calling.

What was the worst part of trickle-down economics?

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The worst part of trickle-down economics is it's a Democrat concept.

Reagan believed in Supply-Side Economics which is nothing more than less governmental interference on businesses. Anybody who thinks this is a bad thing is an economic dumbass. Anybody who believes this was to help wealth "trickle-down" to the poor is a bigger economic dumbass.

A poor attempt at compensating for a bad idea.

BTKAG97 said:

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BusterAg said:

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infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Empty spear throwing and name calling.

What was the worst part of trickle-down economics?

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The worst part of trickle-down economics is it's a Democrat concept.

Reagan believed in Supply-Side Economics which is nothing more than less governmental interference on businesses. Anybody who thinks this is a bad thing is an economic dumbass. Anybody who believes this was to help wealth "trickle-down" to the poor is a bigger economic dumbass.

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Yes, if recall correctly that was an MSM term to smear Reagan's concept, kind of like "Star Wars" put to SDI, but the latter didn't take. The idea just seemed too cool to many.

Remember the media was not unlike the feckless ones they are now, just not as bad, but already on that side of the fence of heavily pro Democrat and liberal and painting any Republican stupid or dangerous.

As for the 1987 crash ---- is that the one China somewhat side-stepped by simply closing the market for a few days? Something limited it going all the way around the world super severely and seems that was it.

BTKAG97 said:

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BusterAg said:

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infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Empty spear throwing and name calling.

What was the worst part of trickle-down economics?

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The worst part of trickle-down economics is it's a Democrat concept.

Reagan believed in Supply-Side Economics which is nothing more than less governmental interference on businesses. Anybody who thinks this is a bad thing is an economic dumbass. Anybody who believes this was to help wealth "trickle-down" to the poor is a bigger economic dumbass.

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Shhhh. Don't help him. I'm hoping he does some research on this topic so that he can own me.

IIIHorn said:

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A poor attempt at compensating for a bad idea.

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What was the bad idea?

Why was it bad?

Where's the $5000 checks that Musk was going to send out?

TexasAggie73 said:

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Where's the $5000 checks that Musk was going to send out?

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Well, son of a *****!! We are now in the hole worse than we were!

Obama: (2,500) - memory holed
Trump: 2,000 - Proposed

Net: (500)

Musk: (5000) - memory holed

Net Total: (5,500)

BusterAg said:

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IIIHorn said:

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A poor attempt at compensating for a bad idea.

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What was the bad idea?

Why was it bad?

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Sorry that my post was pretty vague.

I am not in favor of tariffs.

Put it toward the debt, or literally burn the money to reduce inflation.

BusterAg said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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BusterAg said:

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infinity ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it should just go to CEO's


They are the drivers of this economy and country, both morally and fiscally.

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That is what Reagan did with his brain-dead idea of trickle down economics.

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Empty spear throwing and name calling.

What was the worst part of trickle-down economics?

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The worst part of trickle-down economics is it's a Democrat concept.

Reagan believed in Supply-Side Economics which is nothing more than less governmental interference on businesses. Anybody who thinks this is a bad thing is an economic dumbass. Anybody who believes this was to help wealth "trickle-down" to the poor is a bigger economic dumbass.

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Shhhh. Don't help him. I'm hoping he does some research on this topic so that he can own me.

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Owning people is wrong!

We fought a war over that!!!!1

Libs do enjoy owning people and being owned. It's hard to find the right solution for them.

IIIHorn said:

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BusterAg said:

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IIIHorn said:

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A poor attempt at compensating for a bad idea.

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What was the bad idea?

Why was it bad?

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Sorry that my post was pretty vague.

I am not in favor of tariffs.

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The world would be a better place with free trade.

So would world peace, governments that have no corruption, etc.

I have no problem with Trump giving away tax rebates for whatever reason. If he collects enough money in tariffs to pay for this, than I'm ok with it.