Rossticus said:

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Russia trolling Trump. Only way to see this, really.

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Voters dont care, they only care about immigration, crime, inflation, and jobs.

BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because a significant chunk of American prosperity relies on a stable Europe.

And yes, we go to war to defend our standard of living. Just the way of things of the past 50 years, love it or hate it.

Well, they wanted our attention, they got our attention.

A U.S. Air Force RC-135V “Rivet Joint” Signals Intelligence Aircraft is taking a look at Northwestern Russia tonight over Estonia and the Baltic Sea, while a U.S. Navy P-8A “Poseidon” Maritime Patrol and Surveillance Aircraft is doing rounds off the coast of the Russian exclave… pic.twitter.com/lHphQo0z8v

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 25, 2025

Round 2

BREAKING:

Denmark announces that the Aalborg Air Base of the Danish Air Force and Aalborg Airport have both just been closed after new drone intrusions by unknown drones

🇩🇰 pic.twitter.com/yiwNracVi1

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 25, 2025

Rossticus said:

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Round 2

BREAKING:

Denmark announces that the Aalborg Air Base of the Danish Air Force and Aalborg Airport have both just been closed after new drone intrusions by unknown drones

🇩🇰 pic.twitter.com/yiwNracVi1

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 25, 2025

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I wonder if they just don't have the personnel to determine where these are coming from. Maybe the airborne radar will have better luck.

Denmark's Prime Minister following the country's drone incursions:

"It is a hybrid war that we are seeing unfold on Danish soil, as we also see in other European countries. We see cyberattacks, one day, hacking attacks. Drones, and then sabotage. I believe we have only seen the…

— Faytuks News (@Faytuks) September 25, 2025

Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because a significant chunk of American prosperity relies on a stable Europe.

And yes, we go to war to defend our standard of living. Just the way of things of the past 50 years, love it or hate it.

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How was going to war with Iraq defending our standard of living, How was going to war in Vietnam defending our standard of living. Europe has been a mess since the days of Caesar. We are worried about Russia, while Muslims are invaded European countries, we are worried about the boogie man in Moscow.

Call me a Russian bot for all I care. I see what's really happening in England, Scotland, Ireland, France, Germany, Sweden. Russia is the least of Europe's problem. Hell.... its happening in our own back yard. Just look at Dearborn Michigan.

But by all means keep beating the war drum.

Russian propaganda/misinfo/disinfo machine is turned up to 11.

MORE | Potential Russian-Instigated Protests After the Election:

- Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) absurdly claimed on September 23 that NATO is planning to invade Moldova, likely to stimulate fear and anti-European, anti-Ukrainian sentiment within Moldova, as well… https://t.co/37V71XLU1g

— Institute for the Study of War (@TheStudyofWar) September 25, 2025

Their anti drone capabilities have been exposed horribly which they have now know. That being said, they did report they tried to take one down (unknown method) tonight with no success. They also said they will not attempt takedowns unless over safe areas to do so. Which I guess we can't fault them for.

Psycho Bunny said:

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Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because a significant chunk of American prosperity relies on a stable Europe.

And yes, we go to war to defend our standard of living. Just the way of things of the past 50 years, love it or hate it.

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How was going to war with Iraq defending our standard of living, How was going to war in Vietnam defending our standard of living. Europe has been a mess since the days of Caesar. We are worried about Russia, while Muslims are invaded European countries, we are worried about the boogie man in Moscow.

Call me a Russian bot for all I care. I see what's really happening in England, Scotland, Ireland, France, Germany, Sweden. Russia is the least of Europe's problem. Hell.... its happening in our own back yard. Just look at Dearborn Michigan.

But by all means keep beating the war drum.

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C'mere. I know a secret…

ADDRESSING THE RUSSIAN PROBLEM DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU FROM ALSO ADDRESSING THE OTHER PROBLEM(S)! THEY'RE LOGICALLY DISTINCT ISSUES WHICH AN INDIVIDUAL CAN BELIEVE SHOULD BOTH BE MITIGATED!

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

🇵🇱 Polish Embassy Urges Citizens to Leave Belarus Urgently.

The diplomats’ statement refers to the need to leave the country by all available means due to the “risk of unforeseen circumstances.”

The embassy recommends that Polish citizens not delay their departure and plan… pic.twitter.com/It8xO6mpQX

— MAKS 25 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) September 25, 2025

Ratchet up the rhetoric and sale as many weapons as we can.

Didn't see his response to me but you summed up what I would have said. What a wild concept having the intellect to understand and acknowledge TWO different issues at the same time!

Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because a significant chunk of American prosperity relies on a stable Europe.

And yes, we go to war to defend our standard of living. Just the way of things of the past 50 years, love it or hate it.

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Italy and Spain are sending the military to help Greta deliver aid to terrorist. Why aren't they helping defend NATO borders. Europe hasn't even tried to,defend themselves. We don't need this,war they can handle it

The U.S. Air Force and Navy are continuing to keep an extremely close eye tonight on Russian military activity in the Baltic Sea and Kaliningrad. pic.twitter.com/NH4EmeVki9

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 26, 2025

BQ_90 said:

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Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because a significant chunk of American prosperity relies on a stable Europe.

And yes, we go to war to defend our standard of living. Just the way of things of the past 50 years, love it or hate it.

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Italy and Spain are sending the military to help Greta deliver aid to terrorist. Why aren't they helping defend NATO borders. Europe hasn't even tried to,defend themselves. We don't need this,war they can handle it

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Where in the hell did everyone get this idea that everything is so f'ing binary these days??

How do you know that they are not helping defend NATO borders AND helping to safeguard aid convoys? I promise, you do not actually know off the top of your head. You are just assuming. For what reason, I have no idea. It tickles your world view I'm guessing. Like nations are not capable of doing two things at once is such a stretch of the imagination...

And for the record, Yes. Yes, they are helping on NATO's borders with both troops and command structure and logistics. Both nations. Have been for at least two years I know of. I know this because I actually pay attention to these things. Hell, Spain helmed one of the main battle groups last year.

Eliminatus said:

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Their anti drone capabilities have been exposed horribly which they have now know. That being said, they did report they tried to take one down (unknown method) tonight with no success. They also said they will not attempt takedowns unless over safe areas to do so. Which I guess we can't fault them for.

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To me, it looks like this is why we haven't and won't see much of a direct response from NATO. Even a small drone wave would wreck shop on military bases anywhere in Eastern Europe. Russia would ultimately lose a war, but these countries would take a major hit in the opening stages of a conflict.

I mean, look at this response from to the latest drones in Denmark:

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On Friday, Denmark will join several Nato allies and Ukraine to discuss the idea of erecting a "drone wall", proposed by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to protect the EU's eastern borders.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g96gvql99o

You think it's time to start planning a drone defense?! Meanwhile, Putin can leverage any response as an existential threat in his own country and buy some time against the upheaval caused by fuel shortages.

Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because a significant chunk of American prosperity relies on a stable Europe.

And yes, we go to war to defend our standard of living. Just the way of things of the past 50 years, love it or hate it.

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Italy and Spain are sending the military to help Greta deliver aid to terrorist. Why aren't they helping defend NATO borders. Europe hasn't even tried to,defend themselves. We don't need this,war they can handle it

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Where in the hell did everyone get this idea that everything is so f'ing binary these days??

How do you know that they are not helping defend NATO borders AND helping to safeguard aid convoys? I promise, you do not actually know off the top of your head. You are just assuming. For what reason, I have no idea. It tickles your world view I'm guessing. Like nations are not capable of doing two things at once is such a stretch of the imagination...

And for the record, Yes. Yes, they are helping on NATO's borders with both troops and command structure and logistics. Both nations. Have been for at least two years I know of. I know this because I actually pay attention to these things. Hell, Spain helmed one of the main battle groups last year.

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Then why haven't one European country shot down a single drone that has flown into any of these countries airspace?

BQ_90 said:

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Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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Eliminatus said:

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BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because a significant chunk of American prosperity relies on a stable Europe.

And yes, we go to war to defend our standard of living. Just the way of things of the past 50 years, love it or hate it.

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Italy and Spain are sending the military to help Greta deliver aid to terrorist. Why aren't they helping defend NATO borders. Europe hasn't even tried to,defend themselves. We don't need this,war they can handle it

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Where in the hell did everyone get this idea that everything is so f'ing binary these days??

How do you know that they are not helping defend NATO borders AND helping to safeguard aid convoys? I promise, you do not actually know off the top of your head. You are just assuming. For what reason, I have no idea. It tickles your world view I'm guessing. Like nations are not capable of doing two things at once is such a stretch of the imagination...

And for the record, Yes. Yes, they are helping on NATO's borders with both troops and command structure and logistics. Both nations. Have been for at least two years I know of. I know this because I actually pay attention to these things. Hell, Spain helmed one of the main battle groups last year.

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Then why haven't one European country shot down a single drone that has flown into any of these countries airspace?

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They've tried, and failed so far when they felt it was safe to do so. I don't know what else to tell ya, bub. I don't speak for NATO and their capabilities and regulations in regards to civilians in harms way.

ETA: Unless you are referring to the Poland drone excursion earlier this month. In which case, NATO forces did in fact, engage and destroy some of those drones. Not all though. Which is another concern in itself but it does absolutely refute your assertion completely. Your ignorance on this topic is beyond telling. Why are you even trying? Most Aggies don't just make up **** just to make up *****

pilgrimshadow said:

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Eliminatus said:

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Their anti drone capabilities have been exposed horribly which they have now know. That being said, they did report they tried to take one down (unknown method) tonight with no success. They also said they will not attempt takedowns unless over safe areas to do so. Which I guess we can't fault them for.

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To me, it looks like this is why we haven't and won't see much of a direct response from NATO. Even a small drone wave would wreck shop on military bases anywhere in Eastern Europe. Russia would ultimately lose a war, but these countries would take a major hit in the opening stages of a conflict.

I mean, look at this response from to the latest drones in Denmark:

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On Friday, Denmark will join several Nato allies and Ukraine to discuss the idea of erecting a "drone wall", proposed by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to protect the EU's eastern borders.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g96gvql99o

You think it's time to start planning a drone defense?! Meanwhile, Putin can leverage any response as an existential threat in his own country and buy some time against the upheaval caused by fuel shortages.

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Yeah, it's not great. Pretty much the one thing every serious analyst has been fearing for years has come true. For differing reasons perhaps but the net result is the same.

And that is, the hardest lessons learned in blood and fire in Ukraine are not being implemented fast enough by NATO and even the US to a degree. Again, the reasons are probably many and intermingled but it is what it is currently.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/09/25/russia-moves-to-extend-gasoline-export-ban-until-2026-as-shortages-show-no-sign-of-letting-up-a90619

Fuel shortages is a real problem in Russia right now.

Russia denies any involvement with drones over Denmark

"The Russian side firmly rejects the absurd speculations of involvement in the incidents," - Russia's Embassy in Copenhagen.

Denmark says recent drone incursions over multiple airports were carried out by a "professional… pic.twitter.com/a7FWZ239fN

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 25, 2025

In other news:

Never trust the Kremlin. pic.twitter.com/X5REfaG2RS

— Johanna Nyman (@JohannaNyman5) September 25, 2025

BQ_90 said:

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If Europe can't defend itself then why should we have to defend them?

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Because we don't want our economy to collapse due to the result of that?

GAC06 said:

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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Can somebody smarter than I am tell me what Putin is trying to accomplish? Yes we probably won't respond in any major way because it's a handful of drones and not a real threat, but even if we don't respond, what does he gain from taunting NATO? This is like betting a grand to win a dollar.

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the alliance is worthless

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Correct

Police in Estonia have discovered large fragments of what is believed to be a Russian one-way attack drone washed up near the Luitemaa Nature Reserve along the Baltic Sea coast of Southwestern Estonia, close to the border with Latvia. pic.twitter.com/aTVcpF9erT

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2025

Drones spotted over Denamark's largest military base

Authorities confirm unauthorized drone activity over Karup military airbase Friday night. The base, home to Denmark’s air command, has heightened security as similar sightings spread across Scandinavia near key military and… pic.twitter.com/mw2YDj0wEF

— AlexandruC4 (@AlexandruC4) September 27, 2025

NEW: In the Netherlands, Schiphol Airport's Polderbaan runway was shut down for 45 minutes after pilots reported a drone near their planes around 12:10 p.m.

One captain said it flew within 50 meters of his aircraft. Police and a helicopter searched but found nothing; it’s… pic.twitter.com/GHht6CtJUY

— Clash Report (@clashreport) September 27, 2025

🇳🇴🇳🇱 Norway and the Netherlands are reporting new appearances of unknown drones over their territories right now.

See the latest updates with us: @visionergeo pic.twitter.com/UKHdAbQvjY

— Visioner (@visionergeo) September 27, 2025

NATO will increase its presence in the Baltic Sea with “new assets,” including at least one air-defense frigate, likely from Standing NATO Maritime Group One (SNMG1), in response to recent drone intrusions over sensitive military sites in Denmark, according to Reuters. pic.twitter.com/kIu1oCn1dn

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2025

🤥 “We don’t attack NATO”: Lavrov plays the same old record

Russia’s foreign minister held a press conference following his visit to New York with the usual set of mantras. He claimed that Russia “has no intention and never had any intention of attacking NATO or the EU,” while… https://t.co/oPoDJrchjh pic.twitter.com/LsxCdIgLi3

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) September 27, 2025

Lavrov:

The North Atlantic Alliance continues its expansion right up to our borders. We have repeatedly offered NATO capitals to respect their obligations and agree on legally binding security guarantees. Our proposals of 2008, and the next ones, including December 2021 [the one… https://t.co/iRiXy2BJOl pic.twitter.com/0wUBy2g2Kc

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) September 27, 2025

Speaking at the UN, Lavrov says:

“Arabic isn’t banned in Israel, Hebrew isn’t banned in Arab countries and Iran, but Russian is banned in Ukraine”

In reality, Russian isn’t banned in Ukraine. However, Ukrainian-speakers are persecuted in the Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine pic.twitter.com/zALnj7tyXr

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 27, 2025

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Stone Choir said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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The Ruskies have balls of stone. Think Stalingrad...You can't squeeze them hard enough to break them. The West isn't willing to pay the price it would take to beat them.

The Euros think they want to fight...Sounds like Trump is taking the smarter path: Stay out of the way and make money selling weapons.

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Russia will break when we decide to break them.

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Okay, then you go sign up with the military to fight them.

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Already serving, thanks for your concern

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You mean: already serving. Thank you for your attention to this matter.