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TA-OP said:

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If Israel had him killed, what's the increased leftist hate?

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The idea seems preposterous. However, separate the shooter from the aftermath. It has shown the bulk of especially the "educated" Left is wicked and evil bent and very brainwashed. Their "increased" hate is simply being exposed. It doesn't have to be directly connected to the shooter. Doesn't seem Iran's choice or style but they would certainly have motive for example.

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I either misspoke or you misinterpreted. I meant why are we increasing hatred against leftist counterparts if they truly believe this was a foreign actor? That's just playing right into whatever the foreign actor's goals would be. It all seems too conspiratorial. The most likely scenario is a lone disillusioned idiot who happened to get lucky. I have faith the FBI will get him, just hope it happens sooner than later for the sake of Mr. Kirk's family.

FobTies said:

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Middle aged white leftist women across the country conspired to create an alternate reality comprised of trigger warnings and safe spaces. Over time, their postmenopausal hormonal empathy was synchronized to villify rational thought and debate. It got to a breaking point where peaceful dissenters were labeled "violent extremeist threats", and actual violent leftist assassins were celebrated.

A large herd of humans infected by the woke mind virus, controlled completely by their amygdala, with no functional use of their frontal cortex. Otherwise known as liberals.

They can be spotted in the wild, and must be approached with caution. There is only one cure for these deranged creatures, a stern backhanded slap.

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The bottom right lady has killer eyes, she's ruined peoples live over nothing guaranteed

Who is benefiting the most and has the most to gain from Charlie Kirks murder?

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titan said:

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If Israel had him killed, what's the increased leftist hate?

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The idea seems preposterous. However, separate the shooter from the aftermath. It has shown the bulk of especially the "educated" Left is wicked and evil bent and very brainwashed. Their "increased" hate is simply being exposed. It doesn't have to be directly connected to the shooter. Doesn't seem Iran's choice or style but they would certainly have motive for example.

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I either misspoke or you misinterpreted. I meant why are we increasing hatred against leftist counterparts if they truly believe this was a foreign actor? That's just playing right into whatever the foreign actor's goals would be. It all seems too conspiratorial. The most likely scenario is a lone disillusioned idiot who happened to get lucky. I have faith the FBI will get him, just hope it happens sooner than later for the sake of Mr. Kirk's family.

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Read the thread title and OP.

Thanks for the kind words
Another poster asked the relevant question who benefits and how does eliminating Kirk help there cause

Kirk knowing too much about Epstein files seems unlikely just because I think he is guy who would want to stay in his lane of podcast and campus rallies. But if he was about to go full Thomas Massie and demand the files be released then possibly he would need to be eliminated Lots of people with large amount of resources are very interested in keeping that file closed

Kirk being against Ukraine funding yes that might get a lone shooter or a handful of people to try and eliminate him but that's not really a conspiracy It's hard to figure out why the pro-funding crowd would conclude that Kirk had to be eliminated.

Epstein is the most recent high profile death that looks like a grand conspiracy was possibly responsible so Kirk being the next victim in the cover up is a place to start.
Going a little further back Epstein sweet heart plea deal is an example of very important people wanting this handled quickly and quietly

Who?mikejones! said:

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To get the conversation moving-








What am I missing?

Trained assassin- doubtful any one trained would do it in front of 3000 people. Nothing this shooter did screams "trained".

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If the goal is to both eliminate Kirk and stir up outrage then this is exactly how it would be done

Yeah, but, it wasn't a trained professional assassin.

We will find out shortly. We got him

He was concerned that Israel would take him out for changing his position on the Hamas war.

This is a one month old tweet @HarrisonHSmith put out on august 13th

"I’m not gonna name names, but I was told by someone close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against them"

Was Charlie Kirk Assassinated By Mossad For Changing His Allegiant… pic.twitter.com/XBjgh8VHKS

— Chris Paul (@Infowars1984) September 12, 2025

This is the conspiracy thread
Unlikely a trained asset did it but if there is a foreign actor responsible like
Royal Family
Mossad
Illuminati etc Ordered and paid for the hit then it was a trained asset
Those people aren't taking ads out on Craigslist

The DNC was feeling crushed by college age kids abandoning them, and Charlie Kirk was one if the main reasons.

Leftist ideology did this. Violent rhetoric did this.

This thread. Nothing surprises me on F16.

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False flag to galvanize the movement is not the craziest idea.
Once you get past the most likely / Occam's razor choice of lone deranged gunman option. Creating a martyr is not the craziest conspiracy theory

If you consider the 1-2 punch of Epstein files won't go away and row crop farmers are about to have unprecedented losses and farm bankruptcies; fanning the flames of the culture wars is not out of the question is a Government Asset killed Kirk

V for Vendetta is one of my favorite films so I can buy into a right wing govt creating a terroristic threat to grab power and galvanize their portion of the electorate

That being said most likely lone mentally unstable shooter that has actual skills with planning and a deer rifle

Iirc here on F16 some of the mass shootings during Biden Presidency were attributed to sleeper assets that were programmed to go off whenever things were going bad for Joe to distract and redirect the news cycle

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Pretty crazy

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Leftist ideology did this. Violent rhetoric did this.

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You misspelled "JEWISH"

The Kraken said:

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This thread. Nothing surprises me on F16.

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The thread is specifically for conspiracies, even little green men. OP even said in his next post it was because wild conspiracy theories were junking up the main threads.

What continues to surprise me is the utter lack of reading skills people with an Ag tag possess if it means they can launch what they thought was a zinger.

The fact that people took any of these "theories" seriously is ridiculous. No discussions were necessary.

It's a thread were by design the poster knows they're tossing out crazy theories. It is entertainment.

How far in advance did they announced the Charlie Kirk event on the UVU campus? The shooter didn't just show up with a rifle and find a vantage point with a perfect line of sight. There's got to be video of him doing reconnaissance on campus before the fact.

Some interesting stuff in this article

Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ‘frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death

A longtime friend of Kirk tells The Grayzone how the late influencer's turning point on Israel provoked a private backlash that left him angry and afraidhttps://t.co/cy7Rw4qzIr

— The Grayzone (@TheGrayzoneNews) September 12, 2025

That ag tag is embarrassing on you

Who?mikejones! said:

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Heres a thread to discuss all things conspiracy:

Were people in the crowd signaling to the shooter? No

Was there a conspiracy? Was it timed to happen with a particular set of questions? No

Was the shooter whisked away on a jet shortly thereafter? No

Was the first guy arrested a decoy? No, just a left-wing loon

Edit to add- the la times reported the shooting 1 day before it happened Haven't seen that one

Edit to add: Shooter used a .22 No, wounds not consistent with a .22

Edit to add x2- another country did it to cause chaos No, at least not directly. Could perp have been radicalized via foreign disinfo, etc,? Definitely maybe

Edit to add x3- Israel did it because Kirk was turning on them (lolz, even typing that out makes me laugh) No

Add x4- the gun found in the woods was not the weapon used to shoot kirk Ballistics test will prove or disprove so no conspiracy there



Get on it guys

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torrid said:

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How far in advance did they announced the Charlie Kirk event on the UVU campus? The shooter didn't just show up with a rifle and find a vantage point with a perfect line of sight. There's got to be video of him doing reconnaissance on campus before the fact.

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enough time that there were online petitions at both schools to disallow him from coming. And he responded to this online and interacted with Sen. Lee about this online. I read about all of this before the assassination happened.

The FBI confirmed that Russian and Chinese bots were pushing disinformation that Israel killed Charlie Kirk to sow division.

Make a list of every person who pushed this narrative. They should be investigated and prosecuted for working on behalf of a foreign government.

Brandon…

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) September 12, 2025

That wasn't the conspiracy theory

Democrats claim they are defending democracy while undermining the laws that were created through a democratic process. They're calling for political violence. The murder of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University is another example of that. Yet, the Democrats have convinced their base that it's actually the other side that's violent. I hope the FBI cracks down on antifa and other left-wing organizations.

This is THE conspiracy.

Summary so it doesn't taint my algorithm

Who?mikejones! said:

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Why are you flagging certain conspiracy posts on your "post your conspiracies thread" thread? That makes me suspicious of your true intentions, if you are censoring certain theories. But I don't wish to derail this conspiracies thread with a conspiracy about the OP. I might create another thread to discuss what I think of this thread being a possible conspiracy. Or troll.

Only the anti Semitic stuff

I am far from a conspiracy guy. But one thing I don't really understand, based on what has been reported, is the specificity of the messages he supposedly sent on Discord about retrieving the gun. It wasn't just "there's a gun in the woods by X Street". It was very specific about it being a certain unique gun, wrapped in a towel, with bullets with etchings on them. If he's just asking somebody to get the gun, why do they need to know it's a unique gun or even care if there are etchings on the bullets that they will likely never check out.

Again, I'm far from a conspiracy guy, but this just seems odd to me.

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Why are you flagging certain conspiracy posts on your "post your conspiracies thread" thread? That makes me suspicious of your true intentions, if you are censoring certain theories. But I don't wish to derail this conspiracies thread with a conspiracy about the OP. I might create another thread to discuss what I think of this thread being a possible conspiracy. Or troll.

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I remember you trolling hard during Covid. How much did you cheer when Kirk was shot? The old FBI would have promoted you.

Remember y'all going after PTA parents and Catholics?

- We have a 22 year old kid that admitted to his dad that he did it.
- His own dad turned him in.
- He drives the same car that is on surveillance video.
- surveillance video matches the kid.
- Evidence of an online note left to his roommate about where to find the gun he left in the woods.
- I'm sure the fingerprints that match.
- they have footprints that I'm sure will match.
- the kid was born and raised in Utah and was raised Mormon.
- He was arrested in similar clothes that were on surveillance video.
- there's evidence of radicalized left indoctrination.

Yeah, it must be Israel that's responsible ….

I didn't get this directly, so don't shoot me if it's incorrect and not from Tim

FobTies said:

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Middle aged white leftist women across the country conspired to create an alternate reality comprised of trigger warnings and safe spaces. Over time, their postmenopausal hormonal empathy was synchronized to villify rational thought and debate. It got to a breaking point where peaceful dissenters were labeled "violent extremeist threats", and actual violent leftist assassins were celebrated.

A large herd of humans infected by the woke mind virus, controlled completely by their amygdala, with no functional use of their frontal cortex. Otherwise known as liberals.

They can be spotted in the wild, and must be approached with caution. There is only one cure for these deranged creatures, a stern backhanded slap.

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And here we have on display those that could be members of the White Guilt Influence Society - front hole branch. Associate members in the back hole branch include the likes of Newsome, Walz, Kelly, Sanders, and many others.