I don't have any reason to believe this but if you were a foreign government looking to stir things up in the US... you couldn't ask for much more than this.

Any larger target would have more extensive security. Any smaller target might not generate a much anger. Writing something pro trans or pro antifa and leaving the gun to be found without a killer? /chefkiss

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Im Gipper said:

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It is pretty crazy how quickly some out on X (and here) were to blame The JOOOOOOZ.


As above poster said, why would they do that? What do they gain?

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There is a country that is behind this, and it is the good old land of milk and honey. Either directly or indirectly through rhetoric or indoctrination the left of this country is responsible. Nothing more than that.

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The only thing you got right is the bolded.

Im Gipper said:

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JB!98 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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It is pretty crazy how quickly some out on X (and here) were to blame The JOOOOOOZ.


As above poster said, why would they do that? What do they gain?

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There is a country that is behind this, and it is the good old land of milk and honey. Either directly or indirectly through rhetoric or indoctrination the left of this country is responsible. Nothing more than that.

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The only thing you got right is the bolded.

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I think you and I are on the same page here, but I am curious what is wrong about the rest of that post. Not wanting to start some pissing match but interested.

This rifle was planted. Any accomplished shooter instantly knows why you can't shoot it with the scope mounted like this. This is clearly fake evidence. The FBI is jerking our chain yet again... https://t.co/hY9W358fAm

— HealthRanger (@HealthRanger) September 11, 2025

Would the shooter have been able to hear the speakers from their vantage point? I'm curious if it's possible if they waited for a question related to shootings.

Why is the plane being dismissed so fast? They can't seem to find who did this? Is it at all possible the plane that took off 30 minutes after the shooting is involved?

I'll play. If a foreign government wants to stir unrest, they'll do several more in a short time frame. All against popular conservative or libertarian/right leaning figures. They'll plant information that it was politically motivated.

Eventually they'll start going the other direction while still maintaining a steady pace targeting the right. It'll become like two cars that slowly turn into a drag race after one does the initial floor it/engine rev a few times. They may even have the left/right target count pull even.

It is possible for a very wealthy person or group of persons to pull this off. Governments spy on each other too much to not have something like this get out.

Watch for demon spawn of Soros to start making moves to crash the $.

Ok. Time to take the tin foil off and use it to bake a casserole.

That happened before the event even started. Not after the shot.

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This rifle was planted. Any accomplished shooter instantly knows why you can't shoot it with the scope mounted like this. This is clearly fake evidence. The FBI is jerking our chain yet again... https://t.co/hY9W358fAm

— HealthRanger (@HealthRanger) September 11, 2025

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If the FBI wanted to pull one over on us, why would they mount a scope incorrectly? They would want it to look legit. Some people are so damn stupid.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

My youngest (who is still in high school) said that there is a video clip of two men standing near Charlie Kirk that started doing hand signals right before Charlie was shot. He said they looked like a private security detail or undercover secret service. I'd like to find out who those two men are. I think my kid said one was wearing a baseball cap.

If you want answers to that kind of question, you chose the wrong thread friend

John Solomon on Hannity just now saying the FBI is investigating foreign influence in Kirk's assassination.

That's false. It's at the exact time everyone is crouching down and in the video you can see Kirk's security team carrying him to the SUV in the background.

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ScottishFire said:

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This rifle was planted. Any accomplished shooter instantly knows why you can't shoot it with the scope mounted like this. This is clearly fake evidence. The FBI is jerking our chain yet again... https://t.co/hY9W358fAm

— HealthRanger (@HealthRanger) September 11, 2025

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If the FBI wanted to pull one over on us, why would they mount a scope incorrectly? They would want it to look legit. Some people are so damn stupid.

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Doesn't look wrapped in a blanket to me….

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False flag to galvanize the movement is not the craziest idea.
Once you get past the most likely / Occam's razor choice of lone deranged gunman option. Creating a martyr is not the craziest conspiracy theory

If you consider the 1-2 punch of Epstein files won't go away and row crop farmers are about to have unprecedented losses and farm bankruptcies; fanning the flames of the culture wars is not out of the question is a Government Asset killed Kirk

V for Vendetta is one of my favorite films so I can buy into a right wing govt creating a terroristic threat to grab power and galvanize their portion of the electorate

That being said most likely lone mentally unstable shooter that has actual skills with planning and a deer rifle

Iirc here on F16 some of the mass shootings during Biden Presidency were attributed to sleeper assets that were programmed to go off whenever things were going bad for Joe to distract and redirect the news cycle

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I think all of what you wrote are realistic possibilities.

I will add a few theories spreading around the lunch table at my kid's high school and in text group chats.

Most think it has something to do with Epstein files. They think think Charlie had been given access to copies of the unredacted Epstein files and certain high level people weren't comfortable with someone as popular and trusted as Kirk having such damning physical evidence in his possession.

Others think it was done just to get people to stop focusing on the Epstein case.

Some think it has to do with Peter Thiel or Heritage Foundation for some reason, but the reasoning behind that wasn't explained to me.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOeVbYSErao/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

After reading these comments and listening to my kid:

The conspiracy theory that I now believe is that the same people who I have for years believed to be behind the killing of Epstein are also responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk.

The English Royal Family

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That happened before the event even started. Not after the shot.

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nope

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15089591/charlie-kirk-shooter-man-cheering-explains-actions.html

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After reading these comments and listening to my kid:

The conspiracy theory that I now believe is that the same people who I have for years believed to be behind the killing of Epstein are also responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk.

The English Royal Family

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That Meghan Markel ***** has always hated Trump. Makes sense.

The royal Family is competent at tabloids, weddings and funerals. That is all.

This thread should really blow up in the next few days

if we're throwing out conspiracy theories, might as well add foreign adversarial agitators into the mix

I added that to the op already.

Charlie was very against Ukraine funding. That's one place where folks have military training

They would have just fpv droned him

Israel killed him. He had too much influence over younger generations and would eventually convince these yutes we do not need to be giving Israel hundreds of billions every year. The FBI and other agencies know Israel killed him and they are stalling the investigation. If it was some whack job lone shooter he/she would be caught with the amount of toys and resources at the government's disposal.
The other option is powerful leftist In collusion with the cia killed him for reasons similar to the above theory; money.

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If you consider the 1-2 punch of Epstein files...

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Oh man, I forgot about the whole epstein thing.......WOAHHHHH!!!!!

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Seems Mossad-esque...

If Israel had him killed, what's the increased leftist hate?

Why is Netanyahu going on every tv station in the country talking about an American's murder? It's like he's the official spokesman or something. Unsolicited denial much

Why did he insert himself in this in the first place?

Israeli PM Netanyahu denied allegations that Israel assassinated Charlie Kirk and called them “absurd rumors.”

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— AF Post (@AFpost) September 12, 2025

Are the first persons asking questions connected to the killer?

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If Israel had him killed, what's the increased leftist hate?

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A distraction Israel and every non leftist knows is obvious.

Gut reaction to every non leftist when asked "who shot him" would be a leftist.

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If Israel had him killed, what's the increased leftist hate?

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The idea seems preposterous. However, separate the shooter from the aftermath. It has shown the bulk of especially the "educated" Left is wicked and evil bent and very brainwashed. Their "increased" hate is simply being exposed. It doesn't have to be directly connected to the shooter. Doesn't seem Iran's choice or style but they would certainly have motive for example.