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If Israel had him killed, what's the increased leftist hate?

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Hard to say. You are in the minds of the left, maybe you could send us some clues.

When conspiracies start to become reality then you know how bad the left is...

It appears Tyler Robinson & Lance Twiggs are in a conspiracy together that could expand out to others involved.

Authorities took Lance Twiggs out of his apartment at gunpoint.

Twiggs now cooperating with the FBI.

— JLR© (@JLRINVESTIGATES) September 14, 2025

I have resisted posting a few things because it's so crazy. But if you look, you will find plenty of reputable sources saying that it sure looks like at least six people had prior knowledge to what was going to happen. All part of a larger fiend circle.

Mind sharing?

Who is Twiggs? I'll be honest when I read Trump was in the situation room I figured there was more to this than the public knew.

The roommate

Umm. A guy intent on destroying his twig and berries.

Colonel Kurtz said:

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Some interesting stuff in this article

Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ‘frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death

A longtime friend of Kirk tells The Grayzone how the late influencer's turning point on Israel provoked a private backlash that left him angry and afraidhttps://t.co/cy7Rw4qzIr

— The Grayzone (@TheGrayzoneNews) September 12, 2025

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Interesting

Tim Poole / Timcast has aggregated the claims and sources

Martels Hammer said:

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I have resisted posting a few things because it's so crazy. But if you look, you will find plenty of reputable sources saying that it sure looks like at least six people had prior knowledge to what was going to happen. All part of a larger fiend circle.

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In the spirit of this thread topic- are we considering the media and FBI to be "reputable" sources?

Good point. Actually great point, I stand corrected.

The author was on this weeks Tim Dillon podcast, discussing this article and was an interesting listen.

FobTies said:

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Middle aged white leftist women across the country conspired to create an alternate reality comprised of trigger warnings and safe spaces. Over time, their postmenopausal hormonal empathy was synchronized to villify rational thought and debate. It got to a breaking point where peaceful dissenters were labeled "violent extremeist threats", and actual violent leftist assassins were celebrated.

A large herd of humans infected by the woke mind virus, controlled completely by their amygdala, with no functional use of their frontal cortex. Otherwise known as liberals.

They can be spotted in the wild, and must be approached with caution. There is only one cure for these deranged creatures, a stern backhanded slap.

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Id say it's a good bet to follow this guy...
https://x.com/JLRINVESTIGATES

He's pretty fast. I dont know if there's ever been anything breaking by him but he does live coverage pretty well and is on top of things

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Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

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They would release it and use it as a cudgel to end the war. But you'd have to be an all-time idiot to think Israel would have an interest in risking their diplomatic relations by killing Charlie Kirk, an ardent Israel supporter.

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This is the angle of the conspiratorial story lines that I do not understand. Did Charlie have some axe to grind with Israel or vice versa? Did I miss something? I was at lunch yesterday after church with a large group and this was brought up by the fella's talk at my end of the table. Something about unmarked and unfamiliar vehicles being reported at killer's home some amount of time prior to the assassination.

I find it hard to believe Israel would be involved.

Randomly on my X feed yesterday, a lot of things came up about this "black pill meme society", apparently playing off the red bill/blue pill idea from the Matrix movies. Some research into that was very eye-opening to the evil one can get into if you spend a lot of time on forums like 4chan, reddit and discord.

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Did Charlie have some axe to grind with Israel or vice versa?

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No, he loved the Israeli people wa was very much a "Zionist"

Lots of charlatans on the right trying to slander his memory and the facts by claiming there was ill will.

Martels Hammer said:

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Tim Poole / Timcast has aggregated the claims and sources

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Is there something in writing one could look at or is it just part of one of his podcasts?

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waitwhat? said:
Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

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They would release it and use it as a cudgel to end the war. But you'd have to be an all-time idiot to think Israel would have an interest in risking their diplomatic relations by killing Charlie Kirk, an ardent Israel supporter.

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This is the angle of the conspiratorial story lines that I do not understand. Did Charlie have some axe to grind with Israel or vice versa? Did I miss something? I was at lunch yesterday after church with a large group and this was brought up by the fella's talk at my end of the table. Something about unmarked and unfamiliar vehicles being reported at killer's home some amount of time prior to the assassination.

I find it hard to believe Israel would be involved.

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The reasoning for the "Israel did it" goes something like this. Since the 1990s, israel has had a pretty total control over the GOP. It may have started even before that. Pat Buchanon famously brought it to light and his career was destroyed because of it. Today, with social media and free speech on Twitter, there is a lot of discussion now about what's really going on with this. Where as before, and MSM would just not acknowledge it, now discussions are being had.

Most people's political views which they carry for the rest of their lives are shaped in their college years. It is in Israel's interests to make sure that the new generation of "conservatives" was just as pro Israel as the boomers and Gen X. Charlie Kirk was achieving this goal. He was the most influential conservative influencer for the college kids. He took a lot of money from Zionist donors and pushed the boiler plate GOP position on Israel- "our greatest ally, God will bless you if you bless Israel, all that stuff".

Since the Gaza situation began, his position on the Israeli government was showing cracks. I'll link the gray zone article at the bottom which explains most of those details. Allegedly, Kirk told a friend he feared Israel would kill him. Basically, the theory goes, israel cannot afford to have young conservatives adopting an anti Israel position.


https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/amp/

TAMUallen said:

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When conspiracies start to become reality then you know how bad the left is...

It appears Tyler Robinson & Lance Twiggs are in a conspiracy together that could expand out to others involved.

Authorities took Lance Twiggs out of his apartment at gunpoint.

Twiggs now cooperating with the FBI.

— JLR© (@JLRINVESTIGATES) September 14, 2025

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Where is the poster that said this guy deserves respect and privacy?

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Randomly on my X feed yesterday, a lot of things came up about this "black pill meme society", apparently playing off the red bill/blue pill idea from the Matrix movies. Some research into that was very eye-opening to the evil one can get into if you spend a lot of time on forums like 4chan, reddit and discord.

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as a former 4chan ****poster, i can say that the politics of these people would be utterly incomprehensible to the average person. best way i can describe it is radical nihilism that sometimes spills over into irl violence.

Old McDonald said:

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canaAg12 said:

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Randomly on my X feed yesterday, a lot of things came up about this "black pill meme society", apparently playing off the red bill/blue pill idea from the Matrix movies. Some research into that was very eye-opening to the evil one can get into if you spend a lot of time on forums like 4chan, reddit and discord.

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as a former 4chan ****poster, i can say that the politics of these people would be utterly incomprehensible to the average person. best way i can describe it is radical nihilism that sometimes spills over into irl violence.

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That is what I learned in the brief research I did. Really quite scary to think about, and how it has deeply influenced people.

Call me Tin fool but I believe there was an entire organized plot to kill others along with Kirk with serious funding and resources behind it. Again, Trump spending the day in the Situation Room has to mean something.

Jesus....I'm too old to decipher this.....help?

This is the best explanation I've seen of Tyler Robinson's motives for assassinating Charlie Kirk. pic.twitter.com/51EIqrIXq1

— Jake Broe (@RealJakeBroe) September 14, 2025

This is the narrative the left is trying to push to associate the shooter with an online Alt-Right background. Basically trying to imply that the shooter is as far right as can be and killed Charlie because he wasn't right enough.

This all gets thrown out because the shooter was living and ****ing a ****** roommate.

Thank you.
Loons, ALL.

The odds are 1 in 2 billion that George Zinn was a witness to the 9/11 attacks where he described seeing the planes hit the towers, then he got arrested in 2013 for emailing a bomb threat "joke" to the Salt Lake City Marathon shortly after the Boston bombing, and he was detained… https://t.co/WSmzXDYgzn pic.twitter.com/yDrzlwVDse

— RyanMatta 🇺🇸 🦅 (@RyanMattaMedia) September 12, 2025

At Charlie Kirk’s UVU event, 71-year-old George Zinn told police he fired at Kirk to divert attention so the real shooter could flee.

“I shot him, now shoot me,” Zinn reportedly said right after the incident.

He later told investigators his goal was to “draw attention from the… pic.twitter.com/3yzkf5G0mh

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) September 16, 2025

Who is this guy?!

Even if you're a nut, it is beyond weird.

Has anything been released about the shooter doing a reconnaissance run or how he gained access to the roof?

Kirk always seemed to be speaking underneath a tent. It could be he just wanted to stay out of the sun, but I've wondered if it was a security measure to block lines of sight.

It was the Jews. We know Candace.

Charlie Kirk invited me to speak at Amfest a few weeks ago before he was martyred.
This was after I called for AIPAC to register under FARA and said that the nuclear armed secular government of Israel was committing genocide in Gaza and killing innocent children, Christians, and… pic.twitter.com/Mk7WTQnT0M

— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) September 17, 2025

I’m just going to leave this here… https://t.co/tBaeHpNXu6

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) September 17, 2025

🤔 The Times of Israel on Charlie Kirk... pic.twitter.com/tlJDqquUGt

— Eric Conn (@Eric_Conn) September 17, 2025

I have personal knowledge as to many of the claims Tucker is making here.

They are 100 percent true. https://t.co/w7XoLiMl3m

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) September 17, 2025

A number of people have said that Kirk was receiving an immense amount of pressure from Israel in the past month to support them more to the point where he was losing large donations for not capitulating.

Israel may not have been involved in his death but this all looks mighty suspicious. Why did this meeting even happen?

It's really weird how 30 terminally online conservative influencers with a collective 100 million followers went to an event in the Hamptons on an extremely wealthy zionists dime, to talk about israel, and only two posted photos from there (with no context other than that they… https://t.co/YB9eyAYpKr

— Cassandra MacDonald (@CassandraRules) September 17, 2025