"A single persons action" is not applicable on a side where ~30% agree that violence has a place when people disagree with you.

Where are you getting that 30%? Because it seems like you're pulling it out of your ass.

I'll leave y'all with this, the fact of the matter is no person, regardless of their stance on anything, should be murdered. Human life is invaluable and nobody deserves to be killed. Why people kill others is beyond me and it's sickening seeing it happen so often in our great nation.

Goodness.

Stop voting for people who dehumanize their political foes. Stop voting for people who use violent rhetoric. Your side killed a man today who debated anyone and everyone and who just wanted to have open dialog. This is sick.

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I'll leave y'all with this, the fact of the matter is no person, regardless of their stance on anything, should be murdered. Human life is invaluable and nobody deserves to be killed. Why people kill others is beyond me and it's sickening seeing it happen so often in our great nation.

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You 100% voted for Biden with that bull***** Y'all called for a murder and one came.

TheRealJacob said:

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I'll leave y'all with this, the fact of the matter is no person, regardless of their stance on anything, should be murdered. Human life is invaluable and nobody deserves to be killed. Why people kill others is beyond me and it's sickening seeing it happen so often in our great nation.

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So do you come to cry or lecture? Maybe both? That's so sweet of you. Cry for Charlie, yall killed him.

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Where are you getting that 30%? Because it seems like you're pulling it out of your ass.

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There have been many polls with disproportionate willingness to infringe on rights from the left.

Assassination culture is spreading on the left. Forty-eight percent of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump.

In California, activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangione.

The… pic.twitter.com/xiGAAvoPHy

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) April 7, 2025

Over 30% of Americans who identify as “very liberal” believe violence is justified to achieve political goals.

That’s millions of people.

And that’s the base of the Democrat Party. pic.twitter.com/R9XHdMA6Vy

— BDW (@BryanDeanWright) March 12, 2021

The most depressing finding of this report is how deeply illiberal the American students are who describe themselves as liberal. The worst of it is their disgusting enthusiasm for informing on professors and one another. https://t.co/Z72cwuMRYy pic.twitter.com/3vRqUL4OD5

— Niall Ferguson (@nfergus) June 17, 2021

New Rasmussen poll is stunning:

• 29% of Dems support taking your kids if you refuse to take the vaccine
• 59% of Dems support you being put on house arrest if you refuse the jab
• 48% of Dems say you should be jailed if you question the vax online

They’re far left fascists. pic.twitter.com/yEi0jYUF0z

— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) January 17, 2022

You claim that democrats use violent rhetoric. I have not heard any prominent democratic leaders calling for violence. I do however notice that leaders from both sides immediately condemned the shooting of Charlie Kirk, but when it was the assassination of a Minnesota congresswoman, many republicans refused to condemn the assassination. I mention this only to denounce the claim that the Democratic Party is the party using violent rhetoric as that claim is seemingly untrue from everything I've seen. If you have a source with examples of violent rhetoric from a big-name democrat I'm all ears. All this aside, America needs to come together as one, and by pointing fingers at one side or the other we are pushing each other apart.

That is deeply concerning. There definitely is a problem on the far left that needs to be addressed immediately. I do not know where the next steps are to fix that problem but it is needed. Thank you for supplying some data 30% is a jaw-dropping number and it was hard to believe at first.

I was not old enough to vote last election cycle. However I did not like either of the candidates and wouldn't feel good voting for either of them. If he would've won the primary I would've been happy to vote for Ramaswamy for president.

I don't know where you're get the "y'all" from. If you killed my brother I wouldn't say your whole family was responsible for the murder. Both parties are huge and both have a spectrum of what you believe. I do not believe what the left believes. I believe in moderate conservative values on the majority of issues. Think George H. W. Bush, he was one of the most prominent moderate conservatives.

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I don't know where you're get the "y'all" from. If you killed my brother I wouldn't say your whole family was responsible for the murder. Both parties are huge and both have a spectrum of what you believe. I do not believe what the left believes. I believe in moderate conservative values on the majority of issues.

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Cool. I do not care

Yall killed a conservative leader who was fair and nice.

You tried to kill our POTUS

This isn't about being nice or touchy feely anymore

I am not sure how I had any ties to either of those events but I'm going to let you chill man. I think you got yourself a little worked up. You might want to get some rest.

TheRealJacob said:

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I am not sure how I had any ties to either of those events but I'm going to let you chill man. I think you got yourself a little worked up. You might want to get some rest.

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2029 is far away to be trolling

Then you haven't paid a lick of attention. It's been constant since Hussein was callling for y'all to "get in people's faces" and
"Bring a gun."

And the repeated lies by many on the left about conservatives and patriots being the biggest threats to the Republic. It's a lie and it led to Charlie Kirk's death.

Call the dogs off.

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I was not old enough to vote last election cycle. However I did not like either of the candidates and wouldn't feel good voting for either of them. If he would've won the primary I would've been happy to vote for Ramaswamy for president.

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Great, you should see clearly the rules of the game now. Did you post about the Ukrainian girl? Lying bull****

https://wibc.com/108211/pew-study-white-liberals-disproportionately-suffer-from-mental-illness/

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Young folks are hurting tonight. Charlie Kirk was highly influential with those under 30. My kids have been deeply affected by this. All their friends are impacted. Any kid on a college campus in the last decade has been to a TP USA event.

They feel like they've been directly attacked for loving God, their families and being patriots. Thats what he was and he was killed for it.

Listen to them. Let them know you understand what they are feeling. Encourage them to stand steadfast and not be silenced. He went into the lions den . Charlie could not be silenced or demoralized. So they killed him.

He was a voice of reason and a God fearing family man.

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I was absolutely ignorant of this fine man's influence on the younger generations until today. My son is 17 and is really upset about this. We talked for a good while about people, politics, and God. I wish I would have learned more about him before this tragedy occurred.

I believe that if the intention of this act was to silence a voice, then they have failed. My wish and I think reality is that this has just reinforced a growing movement of young people.

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It is a tragedy but you bring up a good point. His death will bring more awareness to his message. He was first a devoted Christian and good man. I think many of us are surprised at how hard this is hitting people of all ages.

Tell that to JB...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jb-pritzker-condemns-political-violence-after-charlie-kirks-death-says-trumps-rhetoric-often-foments-it

This one really hurts. He might've had more impact in the 2024 presidential election than any other single human being. He definitely made it cool to be conservative again with young people.
I don't know if there's anyone on deck that even compares to him. The conservative movement took a huge hit losing Charlie.

Thats the thing, you think Ken Martin isnt celebrating, Democrats have been losing badly with young people.

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Yes, I agree there is a lot in our country that needs to be fixed, but continuing with pointing fingers and blame is not going to fix the problem. By uniting as one America and having both sides realize that violence is not the answer and these things can be settled in a respectful way political violence can be stopped. Over the past few years there's been multiple political attacks and it needs to stop. Both sides leaders and prominent figures have said they want an end to violence. What needs to change is can't tell you but pushing people against one another is not going to help the cause at all.

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That ship has sailed.

I've always enjoyed a Charlie Kirk sound bite here on TexAgs but never personally followed him. After school yesterday my grandson called me to talk about it and I was surprised by Charlie's influence on my grandson and his friends. They were all shocked and reeling from the news. I followed your advice and we had a long conversation.

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All he did was try to debate. He went into the lions den and forced them to defend the indefensible. They tried to label him and he would be labeled.

The Marxist playbook is simple. Silence you if I can, it doesn't attract as much attention. Read The Gulag Archipelago.... demoralization is the goal. If I can get you to admit to something preposterous, then I can get you to do anything. When you can't be silenced or demoralized, they kill.

Love God, Love your family, Love your country. Let the young folks know "that is the way".

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This is one of the best things I have seen on the internet in the past day. I copied and pasted and sent to those I help it helps. My son is in college and he was the one who told me about it. I have spoken to him several times during the past 18 hours or so. He said the mood on his college campus last night was "tense", with a combination of sadness and anger.

I feel, sadly, that what you wrote is true. The Left certainly does not represent all who vote Democrat, but they lead the party around by the nose. You will kiss the ring, bow down to their ideology, etc. If not, they will insult you and try to marginalize you. If that fails, they will doxx you and try to get you removed from your job, shamed, etc. Failing that, you will be sued. Failing that, violence is the answer.

Yes, both sides of the political argument have their extremes, but one cannot deny that violence is the tool more often embraced by the Left. To deny such is to act with intellectual dishonesty. "Without God, everything is permitted." is the quote from Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov that comes to mind for me. Once you push God out of your life, there are no guide rails and no consequences for your actions. I feel, sadly, that is where we are heading. I hope and pray I am wrong.

See post below yours. Any other questions, Jacob? Or will you continue to have your head up your ass?

My students have already asked me about Kirk's assassination today and it was interesting to hear their takes. I shared that even if we agree or disagree with someone, taking someone's life because of their words is not acceptable. One of my more liberal students even made the point that his children now live without a father and they probably won't remember anything about him when they get older.

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Yes, I agree there is a lot in our country that needs to be fixed, but continuing with pointing fingers and blame is not going to fix the problem. By uniting as one America and having both sides realize that violence is not the answer and these things can be settled in a respectful way political violence can be stopped. Over the past few years there's been multiple political attacks and it needs to stop. Both sides leaders and prominent figures have said they want an end to violence. What needs to change is can't tell you but pushing people against one another is not going to help the cause at all.

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Kirk was the last moderate, your side killed the last man willing to engage in debate from the right. The will be no compromise or discussions anymore. Your side is an enemy of the state and will be treated as such.

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Yes, I agree there is a lot in our country that needs to be fixed, but continuing with pointing fingers and blame is not going to fix the problem. By uniting as one America and having both sides realize that violence is not the answer and these things can be settled in a respectful way political violence can be stopped. Over the past few years there's been multiple political attacks and it needs to stop. Both sides leaders and prominent figures have said they want an end to violence. What needs to change is can't tell you but pushing people against one another is not going to help the cause at all.

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Your myopic version of us all holding hands and singing Kumbaya is touching but hollow.
Not recognizing, ACKNOWLEDGING and turning a blind eye TO the cause damn sure won't help.

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Yes, I agree there is a lot in our country that needs to be fixed, but continuing with pointing fingers and blame is not going to fix the problem. By uniting as one America and having both sides realize that violence is not the answer and these things can be settled in a respectful way political violence can be stopped. Over the past few years there's been multiple political attacks and it needs to stop. Both sides leaders and prominent figures have said they want an end to violence. What needs to change is can't tell you but pushing people against one another is not going to help the cause at all.

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Your myopic version of us all holding hands and singing Kumbaya is touching but hollow.
Not recognizing, ACKNOWLEDGING and turning a blind eye TO the cause damn sure won't help.

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Their vision is the same it's always been. "Coming together" means accepting their lunacy.

So did mine.

CHARLIE KIRK DEAD. New Dawn America 9/10/2025 Rogue Special Edition https://t.co/bxfSncUD1p

— RogueNewsESW (@RogueNewsESW) September 11, 2025

For those that have the responsibility of raising young men, I suggest you listen to this podcast.

It's real men discussing how this assassination fits into the big picture.

Yes, its a long discussion and meanders into global finance, world history and other seemingly unrelated topics however what they discuss is 100% relevant to what this generation of young men are facing in the very near future.



Also, if you haven't read or studied it, Read or watch some videos on the Fourth Turning. History is repeating and we are knee deep in it right now.

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You claim that democrats use violent rhetoric. I have not heard any prominent democratic leaders calling for violence. I do however notice that leaders from both sides immediately condemned the shooting of Charlie Kirk, but when it was the assassination of a Minnesota congresswoman, many republicans refused to condemn the assassination. I mention this only to denounce the claim that the Democratic Party is the party using violent rhetoric as that claim is seemingly untrue from everything I've seen. If you have a source with examples of violent rhetoric from a big-name democrat I'm all ears. All this aside, America needs to come together as one, and by pointing fingers at one side or the other we are pushing each other apart.

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Show me any Republican that "refused to condemn" the murders in Minnesota, which was very suspicious because the 2 Democrat politicians opposed what their party was doing. It would be like is Liz Cheney was murdered and then Democrats were blamed. That story went away faster than a trans activist shooting because the narratives didn't add up. I'm sure you can find some that didn't comment but that's not the same thing, it wasn't remotely the level of this story.

Yesterday you had Democrats in the House booing because they were trying to say a prayer for Kirk after he was shot but was still fighting for his life. You had Pritzker blaming Donald Trump for saying things he doesn't like. You had other Democrats immediately going to gun control as if somehow that had anything to do with this. The folks online were beyond disgusting with countless people openly celebrating. We are not the same. I guess you missed this speech as well:

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This is definitely a very tragic event to happen, and I am praying for his family. However, I do not think there should be an attack or blame against the left. A single persons action, that people both sides of the aisle denounced regardless on how they feel towards Charlie, should not be used as ammunition against a whole party. That's not what the right thing to do in response to a tragic event like this.

TLDR: While the event is tragic, it should not be used to attack the other side, rather bring everyone together in prayer and in unity against violence in general.

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This attitude has gotten us to where we are. These days have passed.

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The left did this. The media did this. Democrat politicians did this. Joe Biden and Hussein Obama did this. You're damned right they'll get the blame. They made it happen.

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