The past couple years have already made a huge impact on my kids (8 year old twins).

They were watching the tv when Trump was shot at. They watched last night on the news about Charlie and us having to explain the situation.

Every time they see Trump they immediately speak about the day he was shot and they always follow it up with a positive statement about the man about his bravery. I have no doubts these events are cementing into my kids why our family, friends, etc are all conservatives. They are in second grade but they already know how F'ed up the left is.

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Young folks are hurting tonight. Charlie Kirk was highly influential with those under 30. My kids have been deeply affected by this. All their friends are impacted. Any kid on a college campus in the last decade has been to a TP USA event.

They feel like they've been directly attacked for loving God, their families and being patriots. Thats what he was and he was killed for it.

Listen to them. Let them know you understand what they are feeling. Encourage them to stand steadfast and not be silenced. He went into the lions den . Charlie could not be silenced or demoralized. So they killed him.

He was a voice of reason and a God fearing family man.

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I was absolutely ignorant of this fine man's influence on the younger generations until today. My son is 17 and is really upset about this. We talked for a good while about people, politics, and God. I wish I would have learned more about him before this tragedy occurred.

I believe that if the intention of this act was to silence a voice, then they have failed. My wish and I think reality is that this has just reinforced a growing movement of young people.

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No offense to you, but this is shocking to me. There were people on another TA board that said they had never even heard of him!

We all need to double down on putting ourselves where our kids are and really educate ourselves on who is influencing them, both good and bad. We could learn a few things. And I'm 100% including myself here so not picking on you!

Discussed it with my 11 year old last night. He didn't know who Charlie was but he understands conservative and liberal beliefs. He is a big fan of Trump. I will say he is one of the most patriotic kids that I know, and it makes me so proud to see. He often talks about going to the military one day to protect our country.

Nice compilation...well done.

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This is definitely a very tragic event to happen, and I am praying for his family. However, I do not think there should be an attack or blame against the left. A single persons action, that people both sides of the aisle denounced regardless on how they feel towards Charlie, should not be used as ammunition against a whole party. That's not what the right thing to do in response to a tragic event like this.

TLDR: While the event is tragic, it should not be used to attack the other side, rather bring everyone together in prayer and in unity against violence in general.

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This attitude has gotten us to where we are. These days have passed.

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These days have passed only if "we"(Americans) allow them to pass.

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I don't know where you're get the "y'all" from. If you killed my brother I wouldn't say your whole family was responsible for the murder. Both parties are huge and both have a spectrum of what you believe. I do not believe what the left believes. I believe in moderate conservative values on the majority of issues. Think George H. W. Bush, he was one of the most prominent moderate conservatives.

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Joe Biden stood up in front of this hellish red background and said God fearing family men were the single biggest threat that existed to the nation...all us evil "radical" conservatives...half the country he said were the biggest threat facing the nation. The last four Democrat candidates for President have said I am an extremist for believing that the Living God is real, that my family is my treasure here on earth and is my mission and loving my country to the point that I signed a check backed by my life when I was a young man to defend it...and will again if called on to do so...these things make me dangerous to the nation. I'm a bitter clinger...I'm deplorable...

What he meant was they make me a threat to the Democrat party's relentless grip on power.



They tried to demonize Charlie Kirk. That's always step 1. Get you to cower so you want be called Hitler or Racist or pick the label dejour. When that fails you and your base must be demoralized. That is the basis of all Marxist indoctrinations and power plays. If I can get you to buy into something that is patently absurdly untrue, then I've shamed you into submission and you are no longer a threat. Just say "men can have babies"....just once...and they've got you. When those methods fail, well, sadly we saw that yesterday.

I recommend reading the Gulag Archipeligo...they're not even trying to hide what they're doing.

Talk to the young people in your life...especially the young men. They feel directly attacked by this. He was killed because he was like them...God fearing, family loving, patriots.

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All he did was try to debate. He went into the lions den and forced them to defend the indefensible. They tried to label him and he would be labeled.

The Marxist playbook is simple. Silence you if I can, it doesn't attract as much attention. Read The Gulag Archipelago.... demoralization is the goal. If I can get you to admit to something preposterous, then I can get you to do anything. When you can't be silenced or demoralized, they kill.

Love God, Love your family, Love your country. Let the young folks know "that is the way".

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This is one of the best things I have seen on the internet in the past day. I copied and pasted and sent to those I help it helps. My son is in college and he was the one who told me about it. I have spoken to him several times during the past 18 hours or so. He said the mood on his college campus last night was "tense", with a combination of sadness and anger.

I feel, sadly, that what you wrote is true. The Left certainly does not represent all who vote Democrat, but they lead the party around by the nose. You will kiss the ring, bow down to their ideology, etc. If not, they will insult you and try to marginalize you. If that fails, they will doxx you and try to get you removed from your job, shamed, etc. Failing that, you will be sued. Failing that, violence is the answer.

Yes, both sides of the political argument have their extremes, but one cannot deny that violence is the tool more often embraced by the Left. To deny such is to act with intellectual dishonesty. "Without God, everything is permitted." is the quote from Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov that comes to mind for me. Once you push God out of your life, there are no guide rails and no consequences for your actions. I feel, sadly, that is where we are heading. I hope and pray I am wrong.

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Amen. In their world view, sadly the "god" is "me". Glad to hear you've been in touch with your son.

And when did I say I liked Biden or that I agreed with what he says? I didn't. But you have your head up your ass thinking that just because I don't like the far right MAGA movement that I automatically like the far left. Nobody seems to be able to comprehend that America is not black and white politically and that there is a scale of where people can be politically. Just because I have a few values that don't align with the modern conservative agenda does not mean I'm far left liberal.

Our son texted us yesterday. Wife was distraught and cried. This morning he was up with the rest of his ROTC/Guard college classmates to commemorate 9/11 by doing a ruck in the football stadium of the flight of stair equivalent the NYPD and first responders climbed.

Daughter talked with us a long time last night as well. She told us her social circle is ever dwindling because all her "friends" want to go out, party, drink, etc. That's fine. But it's not her. Her faith is unwavering and she won't compromise. She's also an athlete, headed to play in college next year. Party. Don't party. Fine, but don't give into social pressures to do things you are not comfortable doing. Told her it's sometimes hard to stay the path. Sometimes you feel alone, but you never truly are. friends from Church. Church camp. Her team.

Having convictions is the point. I think the pivot is happening with more and more kids.

It's probably already been said here but ill reiterate if so. Yesterday only created more Charlie Kirk's. That isn't stopping this. It's realizing that murdering one voice just emboldens others. Conservatives, especially young men and women, just got their realization of what they are now voting for is correct and worth fighting for.

Ironically, its similar to what we see when Muslim Terrorist leaders get killed. Ideologies don't die off when an individual is killed--there has to be mass murder and control to change that. Just as if we saw a murder of some lib blowhard, like an actor, media member, or talk show host. All it does is embolden their desire to fight harder.

What leftists can't even begin to understand is that not only are there more of us, we have lots of guns and ammo, we have lots of alpha males, and we have a strong faith. A strong man with an ideal to fight for and against, with knowledge of how to use a firearm and a willingness to do so will no doubt cause more destruction to a collectivist mentality than anything they could ever dream of.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/sen-mike-lee-faces-criticism-posts-minnesota-shooting/story?id=122930819

I refuse to defend the house democrats for their actions yesterday. That was absurd.

I have said there needs to be change. How do you get to that change is beyond me. I don't know if what you're wanting is for a democrat to be assassinated or what. Because killing more people is not going to fix anything.

I'm going to say this again I'm conservative, but not jump off the deep end conservative. So by you saying "my" side I think you mean to say the "radical left".

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You claim that democrats use violent rhetoric. I have not heard any prominent democratic leaders calling for violence.

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Our son texted us yesterday. Wife was distraught and cried. This morning he was up with the rest of his ROTC/Guard college classmates to commemorate 9/11 by doing a ruck in the football stadium of the flight of stair equivalent the NYPD and first responders climbed.

Daughter talked with us a long time last night as well. She told us her social circle is ever dwindling because all her "friends" want to go out, party, drink, etc. That's fine. But it's not her. Her faith is unwavering and she won't compromise. She's also an athlete, headed to play in college next year. Party. Don't party. Fine, but don't give into social pressures to do things you are not comfortable doing. Told her it's sometimes hard to stay the path. Sometimes you feel alone, but you never truly are. friends from Church. Church camp. Her team.

Having convictions is the point. I think the pivot is happening with more and more kids.

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100% well said.

My boy did the stair climb multiple times when he was there...he enjoyed that. This assassination has hit the young military (especially officer class) very hard. My sons feed and mine of their parents has been blowing up.

Tough on young women to resist that peer pressure. Yes, play the long game. Stay away from the idiots. It's a great long term strategy. I lost touch with 99% of the folks I went to college with. I've never regretted it. Those few who had staying power have been an asset in my life.

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You claim that democrats use violent rhetoric. I have not heard any prominent democratic leaders calling for violence.

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Also ... remember this inflammatory speech? The one where Biden called Republicans "a threat to this country who do not respect the Constitution."

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And when did I say I liked Biden or that I agreed with what he says? I didn't. But you have your head up your ass thinking that just because I don't like the far right MAGA movement that I automatically like the far left. Nobody seems to be able to comprehend that America is not black and white politically and that there is a scale of where people can be politically. Just because I have a few values that don't align with the modern conservative agenda does not mean I'm far left liberal.

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The guy saying those things was the leader of the party and POTUS. He represents the party. By your own logic, that makes the entire democrat party Far Left.

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You claim that democrats use violent rhetoric. I have not heard any prominent democratic leaders calling for violence.

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Also ... remember this inflammatory speech? The one where Biden called Republicans "a threat to this country who do not respect the Constitution."

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One of the most insane political displays I've ever seen. And that's saying a lot.

I grappled with the JFK and RFK killings as most did. Wonder who would grapple with the Left list today?

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My son is 24 and conservative. I haven't heard him talk about Charlie before but I figured with his age he's probably heard of him.

Turns out he was devastated by this and watched many of his videos and debates. He unfortunately saw the video of the shooting and was horrified that this happened to someone he had looked up to. The left is truly evil.

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My son who is 25 feels the same way. We talked about it last night after he got off of work and besides being devastated, he's also pissed. If the 18-30 year old demographic can channel their energy, anger and frustration this event could very well be a watershed moment that truly changes the course that the US is currently on. The left may have achieved their goal of silencing CK, but they may have lost the war in the process.

Never heard liberals say anything inflammatory?

This is Chris Murphy, the Democratic senator from Connecticut, in an interview just a couple of weeks before Charlie Kirk was murdered. Watch it to the end.

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Never heard liberals say anything inflammatory?

This is Chris Murphy, the Democratic senator from Connecticut, in an interview just a couple of weeks before Charlie Kirk was murdered. Watch it to the end.

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Same guy was on Twitter yesterday saying there should be "no tolerance for political violence."

Which is it, Sen. Murphy? Are Democrats in a war, and they should do whatever is necessary? Or is there no tolerance for political violence? Perhaps you should speak more clearly.

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I don't know where you're get the "y'all" from

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We are watching leftists use murder and violence over and over and over and over. It is obvious you refuse to hold your side accountable. It is only coming from your side.

That is EXACTLY the problem.

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Wow, oceanfront property in Arizona? Is that listed next to the latest "guaranteed promises" from politicians on both sides? If there's one thing they deliver, tall tales make oceanfront property in Arizona look almost believable. If believing Charlie Kirk getting shot is on Obama and Biden, maybe you should check Zillow there might actually be a beachfront resort in the desert where logic goes to retire.

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Kamala...that you?

Not so fun fact: the right has more violent attacks and has more attacks than the left does. I don't know what world you're living in where the right is some perfect group of Americans but they aren't. Both sides face this issue and both sides need to call for its end.

https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/comparison-political-violence-left-wing-right-wing-and-islamist-extremists-united

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Where are you getting that 30%? Because it seems like you're pulling it out of your ass.

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You went from quoting Bible verses to cussing. Your fake Christian persona is disgusting.

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Not so fun fact: the right has more violent attacks and has more attacks than the left does. I don't know what world you're living in where the right is some perfect group of Americans but they aren't. Both sides face this issue and both sides need to call for its end.

https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/comparison-political-violence-left-wing-right-wing-and-islamist-extremists-united

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Nobody is saying the right doesn't have a crazy group too. The lies that a Trump supporter tried to kill Trump because he registered as a republican at some point. A MAGA supporter kills him, you really think that? A MAGA supporter kills Kirk, do you believe that? Jews, Democrats, or a ****** is the most likely. MAGA not so much.

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Not so fun fact: the right has more violent attacks and has more attacks than the left does. I don't know what world you're living in where the right is some perfect group of Americans but they aren't. Both sides face this issue and both sides need to call for its end.

https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/comparison-political-violence-left-wing-right-wing-and-islamist-extremists-united

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The talking points are out, this bull**** is all over twitter. You'd think a Democrat was killed if you talk to people like this.

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Wow, oceanfront property in Arizona? Is that listed next to the latest "guaranteed promises" from politicians on both sides? If there's one thing they deliver, tall tales make oceanfront property in Arizona look almost believable. If believing Charlie Kirk getting shot is on Obama and Biden, maybe you should check Zillow there might actually be a beachfront resort in the desert where logic goes to retire.

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Kamala...that you?

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Now he's a moderate

I think the mods should just close this thread now....
I will say again, the young folks are hurting on this. Let them know it's going to be ok. And more importantly, don't waiver. We're not in this for the world. We're playing the long game. Someone will step up and lead...but in the meantime they must know that the direction they are on is right and this does not change that. This animals that killed Charlie tried to stymie this movement and they will not succeed. God wins.

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I think the mods should just close this thread now....
I will say again, the young folks are hurting on this. Let them know it's going to be ok. And more importantly, don't waiver. We're not in this for the world. We're playing the king game. Someone will step up and lead...but in the meantime they must know that the direction they are on is right and this does not change that. This animals that killed Charlie tried to stymie this movement and they will not succeed. God wins.

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And hide liberal insanity? They're hurting because a good person and leader to them was killed. Let them see what liberals think about it. Looks like y'all are just digging a deeper hole* for yourselves with them. They don't believe the nonsense any more than adults, actually probably recognize it better.

I was really disappointed to learn that my 15 yo daughter had been shown the graphic video of him being shot.

I'm going to have to have a discussion with my kids about it. it bothers me that she's now seen someone die.

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I was really disappointed to learn that my 15 yo daughter had been shown the graphic video of him being shot.

I'm going to have to have a discussion with my kids about it. it bothers me that she's now seen someone die.

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Should probably show her the Charlotte video now that she's seen death. That video could save her life someday.

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Young folks are hurting tonight. Charlie Kirk was highly influential with those under 30. My kids have been deeply affected by this. All their friends are impacted. Any kid on a college campus in the last decade has been to a TP USA event.

They feel like they've been directly attacked for loving God, their families and being patriots. Thats what he was and he was killed for it.

Listen to them. Let them know you understand what they are feeling. Encourage them to stand steadfast and not be silenced. He went into the lions den . Charlie could not be silenced or demoralized. So they killed him.

He was a voice of reason and a God fearing family man.

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I talked to my VMI daughter and yeah, her and a lot of her friends have taken the Charlie Kirk murder pretty hard.

Thanks for the prompt to do so.

I was just stunned and hadn't even thought to talk to my daughter at first.