Accountability for Russiagate coming?

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SgtStiglitz
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2017, RUBIO: "Active measures taken by Putin to influence and manipulate public opinion…. to sow chaos and division in our politics, and doubt about the legitimacy of our elections…"

So did Trump's now Secretary of State do a treason too?
eric76
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FobTies said:

No evidence to suggest the secret service received any advanced notice, other than same day, just prior to the raid. No one claimed it was a "no knock" warrant.

How much advance notice do you think that the FBI should have given the Secret Service?

From what I've read, they gave them more than enough time to check that the warrant was legitimate and to notify their agents so as to avoid problems.

I don't know how much they have given, but I remember reading at least a report or two that it was on the order of several hours.

They did not just show up and start searching.
nortex97
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Throwback to when McCain was still unfortunately respirating and telling lies about Trump, passing the Ohr-Steele-Clinton dossier to buzzfeed, and the Brennan ICA was worshipped as true.
Henriques
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SgtStiglitz said:

2017, RUBIO: "Active measures taken by Putin to influence and manipulate public opinion…. to sow chaos and division in our politics, and doubt about the legitimacy of our elections…"

So did Trump's now Secretary of State do a treason too?


Much like you, I'm sure he was influenced by intelligence estimates now absolutely known to be based on a seditious fraud from Barack Obama and his bootlicking cronies.

The difference? Rubio knows by now it was all garbage.

You? You remain in that place with Schiff, a Piss Tape Prophet believing somewhere, somehow the Moscow video exists.

Obama and his cohorts need to pay for attempting to overthrow the President of the United States through fraudulent evidence.

Whether they are eventually found guilty or not, they need to be held to the legal process. This was a coup attempt and it should not be allowed to slide.

Otherwise you are simply going to get the same thing the next time a Republican takes control of the White House.


FobTies
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Tulsi is doing about everything we could hope for. She is repeatedly stressing the most important thing is accountability and consequences to ensure it doesnt happen again. The DOJ needs to bring the hammer.
Ellis Wyatt
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SgtStiglitz said:

2017, RUBIO: "Active measures taken by Putin to influence and manipulate public opinion…. to sow chaos and division in our politics, and doubt about the legitimacy of our elections…"

That is the talking point Hussein Obama put out yesterday. Glad you read it somewhere.

Did you also read that the SIC did not have access to all of this information? Did you read that Durham did not have access to this information while doing his investigation? These documents were hidden from anyone who could have held Hussein accountable.
Ellis Wyatt
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It is remarkable to me that I have not seen a single liberal here or anyone else condemn what Obama and his corrupt goons did. Lots of deflection and obfuscation, but not a condemnation to be found.

Even Hussein didn't say in his statement that he is innocent. He said the allegations were "bizarre." Well, I consider a president weaponizing the government, illegally, against his successor to be "bizarre."
Ellis Wyatt
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eric76 said:

How much advance notice do you think that the FBI should have given the Secret Service?

From what I've read, they gave them more than enough time to check that the warrant was legitimate and to notify their agents so as to avoid problems.


Eric, we are way past this. It has been revealed that this was a political hit set in motion well before the raid. Merrick Garland had no legitimate reason to order it, and nothing was found in it. It was nothing more than a show of force and an attempt, illegally, to lock up a political foe. They even illegally used a grand jury in DC to work around due process issues. Stop defending it.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

It is remarkable to me that I have not seen a single liberal here or anyone else condemn what Obama and his corrupt goons did. Lots of deflection and obfuscation, but not a condemnation to be found.

Even Hussein didn't say in his statement that he is innocent. He said the allegations were "bizarre." Well, I consider a president weaponizing the government, illegally, against his successor to be "bizarre."

Because their overlords are still providing cover. MSN isn't talking about it and Berry is just now putting out a statement. It will go like this:

Continue denying- currently here
Stop denying and accept it happened, but it was akkktually Trump that did wrong
Accept it, promote it, claim they were just fighting evil. Donate now.
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Ellis Wyatt
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True. A few have claimed "it's old news. We knew all of this long ago." Some of us knew a lot of this, but America did not.

Still, none of those people have condemned it. There are no ethical people in the democrat party. It is as simple as that. They condone every bit of what has been done.
aggiehawg
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Ellis Wyatt said:

SgtStiglitz said:

2017, RUBIO: "Active measures taken by Putin to influence and manipulate public opinion…. to sow chaos and division in our politics, and doubt about the legitimacy of our elections…"

That is the talking point Hussein Obama put out yesterday. Glad you read it somewhere.

Did you also read that the SIC did not have access to all of this information? Did you read that Durham did not have access to this information while doing his investigation? These documents were hidden from anyone who could have held Hussein accountable.


Two points here. Going back to when Sidney Powell took over Flynn's defense. She had major questions about what happened to the original 302 of Pientka's interview of Flynn in January 2017. Were was it? And she was adamant that the FBI's Sentinel computer software should have that, yet it doesn't. So she starts raising questions about the vulnerability of the Sentinel system. She didn't accuse the FBI of subverting their own system to hide things but wondered if outside parties could have accessed it.

Fast forward to when Kash Patel takes over the FBI this year. What does he find? FBI had been hiding records, taking them out of Sentinel (or sequestering them somehow) so that Congress, the IG's office, Special Prosecutor Durham never saw them.
Ellis Wyatt
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Fast forward to when Kash Patel takes over the FBI this year. What does he find? FBI had been hiding records, taking them out of Sentinel (or sequestering them somehow) so that Congress, the IG's office, Special Prosecutor Durham never saw them.

Right, so anyone claiming that "Rubio said..." or "Durham found..." is lying by omission. Our FBI and the very top of the Executive Branch were illegally hiding information.
captkirk
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SgtStiglitz said:

2017, RUBIO: "Active measures taken by Putin to influence and manipulate public opinion…. to sow chaos and division in our politics, and doubt about the legitimacy of our elections…"

So did Trump's now Secretary of State do a treason too?

No one is questioning there was some meddling. There always is. What was faked in the report was that Putin wanted Trump to win. Brennan insisted that conclusion be added against the will of everyone else that worked on the report. Brennan claimed to be privy to "secret" information that proved it. He didn't.

Also, Obama and Hillary both claimed publicly that the election had been "hacked". Obama knew that wasn't true and had the intel that proved that hidden so President Elect Trump would not have access to it in the daily briefing.

captkirk
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WOW. Page 17 of the declassified House intelligence committee report is wild. It reveals that Russia had huge amounts of potential anti-Clinton dirt that it sat on in the final days of the 2016 campaign. It included:

-Internal claims that Hillary was on "heavy tranquilizers" and suffering "instensified psycho-emotional problems."
-Evidence of severe health ailments like type 2 diabetes and ischemic heart disease.
-Internal DNC comms that Obama and others found Hillary's health "extraordinarily alarming."
-Evidence of secret meetings with religious leaders where Clinton offered "signficant increases in funding" from the State Department in return for their support.
-Internal Democrat admissions that European allies were unenthusiastic about a Clinton presidency and thought she was not up to the job of head of state.

If Russia was really all-in on supporting Trump and hurting Clinton, it would have leaked this information in October 2016 when her lead in the RCP average slipped to just +1.3.

Instead, Russia didn't completely debunking the core assumptions of the Russia hoax. Rather than admit they were wrong, Brennan's CIA buried the info and manufactured a completely alternative reality to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump.



Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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If they can put Trump in handcuffs for made-up lawfare Trump should be able to put them in handcuffs for executing a conspiracy to overthrow the duly elected POTUS. But it's not really a question of can they it's will they. Not holding my breath


“ How you fellas doin? We about to have us a little screw party in this red Prius over here if you wanna join us.”
nortex97
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It's why Putin chuckled and mocked the matter as American politics when asked about it in early 2017. They did functionally zip, zilch, nada to hurt Hillary or boost Trump in the campaign.

Anyone would have been easier to control or buy vs Trump, as the Chinese and Russians alike knew/know.
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aggiehawg
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Anybody else remember this? Farkas spilled the beans in March 2017.

captkirk
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Sooper Jeenyus
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Can we get Tulsi a bulletproof vest and 24-hour security detail?
aggiehawg
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FobTies
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WH press sec just very clearly articulated it and Tulsi backed her up. This admin gets an F on Epstein, but an A+ on Russia Gate. Its an uphill battle with libtard judges and juries, but hopefully Comey, Clapper, and/or Brennan get perp walked for something, lying would be acceptable.



Lol! Tulsi just dropped that Hillary was often "heavily sedated with tranquilizers"


flown-the-coop
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Press in the room continue to point to Rubio report and trying to conflate Obama & Friends manipulating intel reporting to point to Trump all the way through Schiff gaslighting about the "classified" intel he had seen and the FACT that Russia tries to influence all elections where it can.

Obama misled the US and set Trump 1.0 up for constant undermining and an attempted impeachment, then actual impeachment.

Gabbard and Leavitt doing the work this afternoon.

Kaitlan Collins now going back again to the Rubio report trying to get Gabbard to say Rubio was wrong. Also threw in that Trump said Gabbard had bad intel before trying to establish a riff. Leavitt back shutting that down.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Tulsi has confirmed all the old stories of Hillary getting hysterical and going into screaming fits of rage
“ How you fellas doin? We about to have us a little screw party in this red Prius over here if you wanna join us.”
Ellis Wyatt
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flown-the-coop said:

Press in the room continue to point to Rubio report and trying to conflate Obama & Friends manipulating intel reporting to point to Trump all the way through Schiff gaslighting about the "classified" intel he had seen and the FACT that Russia tries to influence all elections where it can.

Rubio did not have access to all the information that was hidden from his committee. Collins and Hussein Obama are lying sacks of *****
Bulldog73
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Ellis Wyatt said:

It is remarkable to me that I have not seen a single liberal here or anyone else condemn what Obama and his corrupt goons did. Lots of deflection and obfuscation, but not a condemnation to be found.

Even Hussein didn't say in his statement that he is innocent. He said the allegations were "bizarre." Well, I consider a president weaponizing the government, illegally, against his successor to be "bizarre."

As a thought experiment, let's suppose that some generic Republican president was accused of the very same thing Obama and Biden have been accused of, this time substituting a democrat candidate/president elect/sitting president for Trump. No names, no personalities, just some generic Republican and some generic democrat candidate/president elect/sitting president.

What would be the response of every democrat official/congressman/appointee/spokesman and every main stream media type?

IMO opinion, it would be what the Republicans are saying and doing x 1000. You would see lunatic lefties trying to assassinate every Republican even arguably involved. You would see the FBI conducting no knock raids against every accused. You would see non-stop coverage of every rumor and demands for arrests, convictions and punishments. You would see the DOJ investigating and prosecuting in ways that would make Lav Beria blush. You would see non-stop hearings from Congress, and demands that every single voice counseling restraint and the even handed application of law be silenced and doxed.

Instead you see silence, ridicule, deflections and counter-accusations from the people who would demand lynchings, metaphorical and actual, if the shoe were on the other foot. They seem to believe that the actions taken were acceptable and justifiable.

I haven't seen a single lefty say so much as, "If this proves true, I want to see every democrat involved tried, convicted and sent to prison."

So my conclusion is that the leftists have no guiding principle apart from power. They do not accept the rule of law, the Constitution, justice, accountability, or democratic elections except when those concepts can be twisted and perverted into the irrevocable racheting of power into their hands.

Ellis Wyatt
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...and WBAP leads with the Epstein files in their news, not the biggest political scandal in American history.
Ellis Wyatt
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I haven't seen a single lefty say so much as, "If this proves true, I want to see every democrat involved tried, convicted and sent to prison."

Yep. The ends justify the means. No morals. No ethics. Just power.

captkirk
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Remember this little Gem

aggiehawg
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Well, the Tango on the Tarmac wasn't happenstance. Lorretta and Bill meeting alone on her plane was not about grandkids and golf.
LMCane
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Ellis Wyatt said:

eric76 said:

How much advance notice do you think that the FBI should have given the Secret Service?

From what I've read, they gave them more than enough time to check that the warrant was legitimate and to notify their agents so as to avoid problems.


Eric, we are way past this. It has been revealed that this was a political hit set in motion well before the raid. Merrick Garland had no legitimate reason to order it, and nothing was found in it. It was nothing more than a show of force and an attempt, illegally, to lock up a political foe. They even illegally used a grand jury in DC to work around due process issues. Stop defending it.

As Beto O'Rourke stated sunday "the democrats need to be RUTHLESS"

Sam Stein sits down with Beto O'Rourke for a VERY blunt conversation about the state of American democracy. From gerrymandered districts in Texas to national political fights, Beto lays out how the next few months could decide everything and why Democrats need to be willing to do anything to win.
El Gallo Blanco
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First, I want to be absolutely clear...this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama's sexuality (I have a few gay and bi friends and colleagues), but I hope somehow someway he gets what he deserves in all of this. It's almost impossible to imagine...it does not even compute in my brain...but that is how A&M ever joining the SEC or the Astros winninig a WS felt to me at one time. Again, I know libs and CM's might accuse me of homophobia, because Obama has admitted to dreaming and fantasizing about sex with men, but this has literally ZERO to do with that. I dislike him for many other reasons, his bisexuality not even being on my list.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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The Law Professor posted a 78 post thread on the files release

“ How you fellas doin? We about to have us a little screw party in this red Prius over here if you wanna join us.”
Prosperdick
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Don't ever change CNN...pathetic losers.
Logos Stick
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Ellis Wyatt said:

flown-the-coop said:

Press in the room continue to point to Rubio report and trying to conflate Obama & Friends manipulating intel reporting to point to Trump all the way through Schiff gaslighting about the "classified" intel he had seen and the FACT that Russia tries to influence all elections where it can.

Rubio did not have access to all the information that was hidden from his committee. Collins and Hussein Obama are lying sacks of *****


Cade Collins is a little worker bee for the Democratic Party.
 
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