Net job gains/losses since January:
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 9, 2025
American-born workers + 2,000,000
Foreign-born workers (-) 543,000
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Net job gains/losses since January:
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 9, 2025
American-born workers + 2,000,000
Foreign-born workers (-) 543,000
🇺🇸🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/4mylohPsYx
Build the wall if you want, I don't care, but it will be an ongoing expense with yet another cottage industry built by the government to maintain the wall for the foreseeable future.TexAgs91 said:American Hardwood said:I never said the actual numbers of the deportations itself was going to make the difference. It is the message it sends. You aren't looking at this from the perspective of the immigrant. Think of the promises they once believed that all you had to do is show up on the border and you'd be given a hotel to live in, free food and health care, basically an endless supply of goodies and benefits at the expense of the taxpayers.TexAgs91 said:BS again. Over 10 million illegals came in during Biden's regime. Do the math. How many deportations per day would be required to deport 10 million illegals in 4 years. Do Trump's deportation goals reach that number.American Hardwood said:TexAgs91 said:American Hardwood said:I've always considered the wall an expensive boondoggle. While it may impart partial discouragement, it isn't going to really stop much in the long run and will be a maintenance problem for a long time.TexAgs91 said:
Closing the border: B. Sure he's done excellent for stopping the flow of illegals but what bout the wall? It needs to be COMPLETED during his term which will at least be a permanent obstacle.
Deporting illegals: he's done more than any other president I've seen in my lifetime, but it's not enough. He needs to raise those deportation numbers up at least an order of magnitude to deport anywhere near 10 million illegals.
Draining the swamp: D. He seems to have all the right people in place but nothing is happening.
Economy: B ( A on the tarrifs, D on cutting the debt, B on everything else)
Foreign Policy, mideast: A
Foreign policy, Ukraine/Russia: B
Nasa: D for dumbass - letting Jarred Issaccman go and slashing Nasa's budget.
Ending Joe Biden's reign of terror: A+
I won't be paying much attention to this on July 20th. That's Moon Landing Day!
By far the best and cheapest way to solve the problem is to remove all the incentives for crossing illegally and imparting real consequences for doing so. Trump is doing a great job on that. We won't need a wall if nobody wants to risk crossing the border.
Wow.... This is your idea after seeing what Biden did the last 4 years? The next Marxist in office will open the floodgates again and make sure there are incentives to bring in as many illegals as possible.
…until the next president reverses again and away they go. Trump has shown that it is possible that the possibility of leeching off America is not guaranteed even if someone friendly to criminals is elected. The images of arrests, Alligator Alcatraz, and deportations is powerful. It will have a lasting effect even through a leftist regime should one follow Trump.
You say just deport them like it's easy.
How many terrorists made it into the country during Joe's 4 years of open border?
Do you really think we know who and where they all are and can easily just go pick them up?
How many court battles did and will Trump have to fight?
How many violent riots will happen because of the deportations and how many NG will need to be deployed during Trump's term to make this happen?
After going after the terrorist/hard criminal illegal aliens, how politically feasible will it be to deport the rest?
What if the next marxist president is a 2 term disaster?
That message has changed 180 degrees to now being you might end up in an alligator prison, deported to God knows where, maybe a max prison in El Salvidor. You won't be able to move freely about society for fear of being picked up, then your whole family and everyone else you are associated with. You have poll numbers showing that a significant majority of Americans don't want you here. You have places of work being raided.
The RISK of illegal entry has gone way, way up and the benefits way, way down. There is no guarantee that a future president will change things for any significant length of time. There is no guarantee that a future Marxist president will last more than 1 term. You are expecting people to risk their lives on that gamble?
There is a reason Homan is frequently talking tough in no uncertain terms on every available media platform. He wants the world to know the free ride is over and consequences for trying will be severe.
THAT is the benefit of this effort even if the total number of forced deportations is relatively low to the total number of illegals.
You totally missed the point with all of your comments.
None of that matters. Sure, the word is out during Trump's term, but all that goes out the window with the next Marxist. They will hype the benefits and open the floodgates again. By the time a republican comes back into office foreigners will forget about Trump's deportations and most republican's don't have the spine to do a deportation program like Trump has done anyways.
The best way to deal with illegal aliens is to prevent them from coming in the country in the first place. I know there are ways to get around the wall, but it's at least an obstacle that will slow them down if it's completed. That will be working for us during the next marxist's term.
This congress needs to also update laws to codify laws that reduce the incentive, like mandatory voter ID for federal elections. Congress needs to pass the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act.
captkirk said:Net job gains/losses since January:
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 9, 2025
American-born workers + 2,000,000
Foreign-born workers (-) 543,000
🇺🇸🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/4mylohPsYx
American Hardwood said:Build the wall if you want, I don't care, but it will be an ongoing expense with yet another cottage industry built by the government to maintain the wall for the foreseeable future.TexAgs91 said:American Hardwood said:I never said the actual numbers of the deportations itself was going to make the difference. It is the message it sends. You aren't looking at this from the perspective of the immigrant. Think of the promises they once believed that all you had to do is show up on the border and you'd be given a hotel to live in, free food and health care, basically an endless supply of goodies and benefits at the expense of the taxpayers.TexAgs91 said:BS again. Over 10 million illegals came in during Biden's regime. Do the math. How many deportations per day would be required to deport 10 million illegals in 4 years. Do Trump's deportation goals reach that number.American Hardwood said:TexAgs91 said:American Hardwood said:I've always considered the wall an expensive boondoggle. While it may impart partial discouragement, it isn't going to really stop much in the long run and will be a maintenance problem for a long time.TexAgs91 said:
Closing the border: B. Sure he's done excellent for stopping the flow of illegals but what bout the wall? It needs to be COMPLETED during his term which will at least be a permanent obstacle.
Deporting illegals: he's done more than any other president I've seen in my lifetime, but it's not enough. He needs to raise those deportation numbers up at least an order of magnitude to deport anywhere near 10 million illegals.
Draining the swamp: D. He seems to have all the right people in place but nothing is happening.
Economy: B ( A on the tarrifs, D on cutting the debt, B on everything else)
Foreign Policy, mideast: A
Foreign policy, Ukraine/Russia: B
Nasa: D for dumbass - letting Jarred Issaccman go and slashing Nasa's budget.
Ending Joe Biden's reign of terror: A+
I won't be paying much attention to this on July 20th. That's Moon Landing Day!
By far the best and cheapest way to solve the problem is to remove all the incentives for crossing illegally and imparting real consequences for doing so. Trump is doing a great job on that. We won't need a wall if nobody wants to risk crossing the border.
Wow.... This is your idea after seeing what Biden did the last 4 years? The next Marxist in office will open the floodgates again and make sure there are incentives to bring in as many illegals as possible.
…until the next president reverses again and away they go. Trump has shown that it is possible that the possibility of leeching off America is not guaranteed even if someone friendly to criminals is elected. The images of arrests, Alligator Alcatraz, and deportations is powerful. It will have a lasting effect even through a leftist regime should one follow Trump.
You say just deport them like it's easy.
How many terrorists made it into the country during Joe's 4 years of open border?
Do you really think we know who and where they all are and can easily just go pick them up?
How many court battles did and will Trump have to fight?
How many violent riots will happen because of the deportations and how many NG will need to be deployed during Trump's term to make this happen?
After going after the terrorist/hard criminal illegal aliens, how politically feasible will it be to deport the rest?
What if the next marxist president is a 2 term disaster?
That message has changed 180 degrees to now being you might end up in an alligator prison, deported to God knows where, maybe a max prison in El Salvidor. You won't be able to move freely about society for fear of being picked up, then your whole family and everyone else you are associated with. You have poll numbers showing that a significant majority of Americans don't want you here. You have places of work being raided.
The RISK of illegal entry has gone way, way up and the benefits way, way down. There is no guarantee that a future president will change things for any significant length of time. There is no guarantee that a future Marxist president will last more than 1 term. You are expecting people to risk their lives on that gamble?
There is a reason Homan is frequently talking tough in no uncertain terms on every available media platform. He wants the world to know the free ride is over and consequences for trying will be severe.
THAT is the benefit of this effort even if the total number of forced deportations is relatively low to the total number of illegals.
You totally missed the point with all of your comments.
None of that matters. Sure, the word is out during Trump's term, but all that goes out the window with the next Marxist. They will hype the benefits and open the floodgates again. By the time a republican comes back into office foreigners will forget about Trump's deportations and most republican's don't have the spine to do a deportation program like Trump has done anyways.
The best way to deal with illegal aliens is to prevent them from coming in the country in the first place. I know there are ways to get around the wall, but it's at least an obstacle that will slow them down if it's completed. That will be working for us during the next marxist's term.
This congress needs to also update laws to codify laws that reduce the incentive, like mandatory voter ID for federal elections. Congress needs to pass the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act.
But, you are flat out wrong about border interdiction being the best way to deal with this. The best way to deal with this is take away the desire to come here illegally in the first place. Then you won't need a massive border control effort consuming men and material spanning thousands of miles. Removing that desire is exactly what the administration is trying to do. And it is working, look at the massive drop in crossing attempts. It will take years for the marxists to rebuild that interest unless they ramp up their recruitment efforts tenfold, an effort which their domestic voting base is decidedly against. Good luck with that.
American Hardwood said:Build the wall if you want, I don't care, but it will be an ongoing expense with yet another cottage industry built by the government to maintain the wall for the foreseeable future.TexAgs91 said:American Hardwood said:I never said the actual numbers of the deportations itself was going to make the difference. It is the message it sends. You aren't looking at this from the perspective of the immigrant. Think of the promises they once believed that all you had to do is show up on the border and you'd be given a hotel to live in, free food and health care, basically an endless supply of goodies and benefits at the expense of the taxpayers.TexAgs91 said:BS again. Over 10 million illegals came in during Biden's regime. Do the math. How many deportations per day would be required to deport 10 million illegals in 4 years. Do Trump's deportation goals reach that number.American Hardwood said:TexAgs91 said:American Hardwood said:I've always considered the wall an expensive boondoggle. While it may impart partial discouragement, it isn't going to really stop much in the long run and will be a maintenance problem for a long time.TexAgs91 said:
Closing the border: B. Sure he's done excellent for stopping the flow of illegals but what bout the wall? It needs to be COMPLETED during his term which will at least be a permanent obstacle.
Deporting illegals: he's done more than any other president I've seen in my lifetime, but it's not enough. He needs to raise those deportation numbers up at least an order of magnitude to deport anywhere near 10 million illegals.
Draining the swamp: D. He seems to have all the right people in place but nothing is happening.
Economy: B ( A on the tarrifs, D on cutting the debt, B on everything else)
Foreign Policy, mideast: A
Foreign policy, Ukraine/Russia: B
Nasa: D for dumbass - letting Jarred Issaccman go and slashing Nasa's budget.
Ending Joe Biden's reign of terror: A+
I won't be paying much attention to this on July 20th. That's Moon Landing Day!
By far the best and cheapest way to solve the problem is to remove all the incentives for crossing illegally and imparting real consequences for doing so. Trump is doing a great job on that. We won't need a wall if nobody wants to risk crossing the border.
Wow.... This is your idea after seeing what Biden did the last 4 years? The next Marxist in office will open the floodgates again and make sure there are incentives to bring in as many illegals as possible.
…until the next president reverses again and away they go. Trump has shown that it is possible that the possibility of leeching off America is not guaranteed even if someone friendly to criminals is elected. The images of arrests, Alligator Alcatraz, and deportations is powerful. It will have a lasting effect even through a leftist regime should one follow Trump.
You say just deport them like it's easy.
How many terrorists made it into the country during Joe's 4 years of open border?
Do you really think we know who and where they all are and can easily just go pick them up?
How many court battles did and will Trump have to fight?
How many violent riots will happen because of the deportations and how many NG will need to be deployed during Trump's term to make this happen?
After going after the terrorist/hard criminal illegal aliens, how politically feasible will it be to deport the rest?
What if the next marxist president is a 2 term disaster?
That message has changed 180 degrees to now being you might end up in an alligator prison, deported to God knows where, maybe a max prison in El Salvidor. You won't be able to move freely about society for fear of being picked up, then your whole family and everyone else you are associated with. You have poll numbers showing that a significant majority of Americans don't want you here. You have places of work being raided.
The RISK of illegal entry has gone way, way up and the benefits way, way down. There is no guarantee that a future president will change things for any significant length of time. There is no guarantee that a future Marxist president will last more than 1 term. You are expecting people to risk their lives on that gamble?
There is a reason Homan is frequently talking tough in no uncertain terms on every available media platform. He wants the world to know the free ride is over and consequences for trying will be severe.
THAT is the benefit of this effort even if the total number of forced deportations is relatively low to the total number of illegals.
You totally missed the point with all of your comments.
None of that matters. Sure, the word is out during Trump's term, but all that goes out the window with the next Marxist. They will hype the benefits and open the floodgates again. By the time a republican comes back into office foreigners will forget about Trump's deportations and most republican's don't have the spine to do a deportation program like Trump has done anyways.
The best way to deal with illegal aliens is to prevent them from coming in the country in the first place. I know there are ways to get around the wall, but it's at least an obstacle that will slow them down if it's completed. That will be working for us during the next marxist's term.
This congress needs to also update laws to codify laws that reduce the incentive, like mandatory voter ID for federal elections. Congress needs to pass the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act.
But, you are flat out wrong about border interdiction being the best way to deal with this. The best way to deal with this is take away the desire to come here illegally in the first place. Then you won't need a massive border control effort consuming men and material spanning thousands of miles. Removing that desire is exactly what the administration is trying to do. And it is working, look at the massive drop in crossing attempts. It will take years for the marxists to rebuild that interest unless they ramp up their recruitment efforts tenfold, an effort which their domestic voting base is decidedly against. Good luck with that.