PaulsBunions said:

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lol. What does "narrowly tailored" mean? You can make that mean anything.

Irrelevant language.

This whole thing is a distraction at best the way the bill is written.

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Well they have to go back and tell the House/Senate why they redacted what they redacted, and there would be FOIA requests if they keep hiding it beyond that. Its pretty obvious this issue isn't going to go away if they wait it out too, public opinion is low for the administration on how they handled this whole debacle.

"Within 15 days of completion of the release required under Section 2, the Attorney General shall submit to the House and Senate Committees on the Judiciary a report listing:

(1) All categories of records released and withheld.

(2) A summary of redactions made, including legal basis.

(3) A list of all government officials and politically exposed persons named or referenced in the released materials, with no redactions permitted under subsection (b)(1)."

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Yes, but they are likely going to redact 95% of thousands of documents so this will get dragged out just like the JFK files. We and our kids will likely be dead before we get anything from this.

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Could be, that depends on Trump/Bondi at this point to follow the law as intended.

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The law, as written, gives them wide latitude to effectively redact everything. So how it was actually written doesn't match the intention and desires of most everyone on this thread.

Which is why you had everyone but 1 person vote for it. They all know they are protected by how it was written.

Theater.

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Redact everything but also provide a satisfactory explanation to the public on what they redacted*

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*And the reasons will be all the ones already written directly into the law.

And most everyone that is not MTG or Massie will pretend anger but privately say, "Whew.". And move on.

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Guess we'll have to wait and see if the Trump DOJ does the right thing then won't we

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If Trump's DOJ doesn't that doesn't mean the next Dems DOJ won't do the right thing.

The reality is, at this point, it's just a matter of time. It can be in the next three years or in the first few weeks of the next Dem administration, maybe even the next republican administration, who knows, but it's coming.

And this is PRECISELY why Trump doesn't want them released. Russiagate was started on literally nothing (Carter Page once ordered a vodka at dinner which could ONLY mean that Trump is a KGB agent) yet spiraled into four years of impeachments, investigations, etc and plunged the country into anarchy. Based on nothing. It was a manufactured hoax.

Once the Epstein files are released, there is bound to be some throwaway, vague, unimportant reference to Trump that the left will take and use as the basis to ruin his second term like they did the first. Impeachments, investigations, whatever it takes to derail the next three years. They have proven that they have no integrity and are willing to see the country go into chaos just to get their way.

That is why he doesn't want them released.

Juan Lee Pettimore said:

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And this is PRECISELY why Trump doesn't want them released. Russiagate was started on literally nothing (Carter Page once ordered a vodka at dinner which could ONLY mean that Trump is a KGB agent) yet spiraled into four years of impeachments, investigations, etc and plunged the country into anarchy. Based on nothing. It was a manufactured hoax.

Once the Epstein files are released, there is bound to be some throwaway, vague, unimportant reference to Trump that the left will take and use as the basis to ruin his second term like they did the first. Impeachments, investigations, whatever it takes to derail the next three years. They have proven that they have no integrity and are willing to see the country go into chaos just to get their way.

That is why he doesn't want them released.

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The left is already doing that with the shutdown. They'll do those other those if they get the majority in congress.

None of that should keep pedophiles from being exposed and then facing justice for raping children.

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It's only political theatre now because Trump was swallowed by the Deep State

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He's covering for Netanyahu and AIPAC...not because they got eeem, but because he needs/wants Israel's current regime to remain stable during his presidency - for strategic reasons.

Unfortunately he's wrong. This needs to come to light and Israel (our closest and most important ally) needs to learn to stay tf out of our internal politics.

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I'm well aware.

I'm sure there's some emberrassing information on him and some friends in there as well though. He wouldn't be fighting this hard for someone that wasn't himself, he's nowhere near that good of a leader or person.

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not a snowball's chance in hell. Anything even remotely embarrassing would've been made public long before today.

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And this is PRECISELY why Trump doesn't want them released. Russiagate was started on literally nothing (Carter Page once ordered a vodka at dinner which could ONLY mean that Trump is a KGB agent) yet spiraled into four years of impeachments, investigations, etc and plunged the country into anarchy. Based on nothing. It was a manufactured hoax.

Once the Epstein files are released, there is bound to be some throwaway, vague, unimportant reference to Trump that the left will take and use as the basis to ruin his second term like they did the first. Impeachments, investigations, whatever it takes to derail the next three years. They have proven that they have no integrity and are willing to see the country go into chaos just to get their way.

That is why he doesn't want them released.

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So...you don't want them released

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And this is PRECISELY why Trump doesn't want them released. Russiagate was started on literally nothing (Carter Page once ordered a vodka at dinner which could ONLY mean that Trump is a KGB agent) yet spiraled into four years of impeachments, investigations, etc and plunged the country into anarchy. Based on nothing. It was a manufactured hoax.

Once the Epstein files are released, there is bound to be some throwaway, vague, unimportant reference to Trump that the left will take and use as the basis to ruin his second term like they did the first. Impeachments, investigations, whatever it takes to derail the next three years. They have proven that they have no integrity and are willing to see the country go into chaos just to get their way.

That is why he doesn't want them released.

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The left is already doing that with the shutdown. They'll do those other those if they get the majority in congress.

None of that should keep pedophiles from being exposed and then facing justice for raping children.

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I agree wholeheartedly, release them, but I'm just telling you exactly what the result will be when they do.

But has the left really thought this through? Let's say when they are released that they DO in fact show important people child diddling. How in the world are they going to explain away WHY they didn't release them previously when they had power?

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It's only political theatre now because Trump was swallowed by the Deep State

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He's covering for Netanyahu and AIPAC...not because they got eeem, but because he needs/wants Israel's current regime to remain stable during his presidency - for strategic reasons.

Unfortunately he's wrong. This needs to come to light and Israel (our closest and most important ally) needs to learn to stay tf out of our internal politics.

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I'm well aware.

I'm sure there's some emberrassing information on him and some friends in there as well though. He wouldn't be fighting this hard for someone that wasn't himself, he's nowhere near that good of a leader or person.

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not a snowball's chance in hell. Anything even remotely embarrassing would've been made public long before today.

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So true. Trump would also have released everything on Larry Summers and all of his other political opponent in the Epstein files during his first term.

Oh wait, he didn't either. I wonder why?

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It's only political theatre now because Trump was swallowed by the Deep State

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He's covering for Netanyahu and AIPAC...not because they got eeem, but because he needs/wants Israel's current regime to remain stable during his presidency - for strategic reasons.

Unfortunately he's wrong. This needs to come to light and Israel (our closest and most important ally) needs to learn to stay tf out of our internal politics.

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I'm well aware.

I'm sure there's some emberrassing information on him and some friends in there as well though. He wouldn't be fighting this hard for someone that wasn't himself, he's nowhere near that good of a leader or person.

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not a snowball's chance in hell. Anything even remotely embarrassing would've been made public long before today.

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So true. Trump would also have released everything on Larry Summers and all of his other political opponent in the Epstein files during his first term.

Oh wait, he didn't either. I wonder why?

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The 45 admin was turned into a ****show by the swamp. Chances are, Trump was kept in the dark on anything that could help him.

otoh, the Dems wouldn't be able to control themselves - they'd burn America to the ground to get Trump.

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Explain how unanimous support from democrats on the petition and vote, to release the entirety of the epstien files, focuses on only one person?

It's like yall aren't even trying anymore.

Juan Lee Pettimore said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

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And this is PRECISELY why Trump doesn't want them released. Russiagate was started on literally nothing (Carter Page once ordered a vodka at dinner which could ONLY mean that Trump is a KGB agent) yet spiraled into four years of impeachments, investigations, etc and plunged the country into anarchy. Based on nothing. It was a manufactured hoax.

Once the Epstein files are released, there is bound to be some throwaway, vague, unimportant reference to Trump that the left will take and use as the basis to ruin his second term like they did the first. Impeachments, investigations, whatever it takes to derail the next three years. They have proven that they have no integrity and are willing to see the country go into chaos just to get their way.

That is why he doesn't want them released.

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The left is already doing that with the shutdown. They'll do those other those if they get the majority in congress.

None of that should keep pedophiles from being exposed and then facing justice for raping children.

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I agree wholeheartedly, release them, but I'm just telling you exactly what the result will be when they do.

But has the left really thought this through? Let's say when they are released that they DO in fact show important people child diddling. How in the world are they going to explain away WHY they didn't release them previously when they had power?

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That's going to be their problem. No one being above the law means no one. And if it means going into every person and agency that knowingly held this information back then they all need to be held to account.

Thankfully there's plenty of people on the left AND the right that want justice to be done, and I'm sure they'd all agree with what I propose.

We're talking about kids here. That alone means we make sure no stone is left unturned.

Hopefully these perverts are having some sleepless nights.

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Hopefully these perverts are having some sleepless nights.

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Wait till their names are released. The internet will do it's then and then some long before the cops get to them.

'It's like y'all aren't even trying anymore'....

Yeah?
I wonder WHY.

Cool response with nothing related to the topic.

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'It's like y'all aren't even trying anymore'....

Yeah?
I wonder WHY.

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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A generic email to Jeffries implicates him in your mind but emails saying trump spent hours with a victim spark no alarm bells. Not to mention al lthe other things we know about him.

Just more proof ya'll aren't trying.

Thank you for the updates

LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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Speaks volumes that you 1) feel the need to call the first two out as "black", as if that matters...no one has mentioned race on this thread at all (BTW, Jeffries is black...you should update your post). And 2) ignore the fact that Trump's name was littered throughout the first dump, including in reference to spending time with a victim, oral sex with a dude, and being called the worst person in the world (by one of the worst people in the world, LOL)...but yeah, he's "not listed."

Ervin Burrell said:

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LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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Speaks volumes that you 1) feel the need to call the first two out as "black", as if that matters...no one has mentioned race on this thread at all (BTW, Jeffries is black...you should update your post). And 2) ignore the fact that Trump's name was littered throughout the first dump, including in reference to spending time with a victim, oral sex with a dude, and being called the worst person in the world (by one of the worst people in the world, LOL)...but yeah, he's "not listed."

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The Trump had oral sex with a guy was in the first dump? I thought that was just social media doing it's thing.

Also, it's not uncommon for the race of anyone not white to be specified in some posts. Why? Who knows, but it doesn't really add anything to the conversation.

Yes, there was an allegation that Trump gave Clinton a Lewinsky.

So Dems would have you believe that Trump likes to be peed on by Russian hookers and plays Mark May to his friends.

Makes all there other accusations all the more believable.

No Spin Ag said:

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Ervin Burrell said:

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LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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Speaks volumes that you 1) feel the need to call the first two out as "black", as if that matters...no one has mentioned race on this thread at all (BTW, Jeffries is black...you should update your post). And 2) ignore the fact that Trump's name was littered throughout the first dump, including in reference to spending time with a victim, oral sex with a dude, and being called the worst person in the world (by one of the worst people in the world, LOL)...but yeah, he's "not listed."

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The Trump had oral sex with a guy was in the first dump? I thought that was just social media doing it's thing.

Also, it's not uncommon for the race of anyone not white to be specified in some posts. Why? Who knows, but it doesn't really add anything to the conversation.

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There's a lot of BS in those emails, like denying Bill Clinton was ever there despite him being in the flight logs. Epstein's brother was on the Cuomo show and basically said "I'm not talking about the emails those are personal conversations. But the "Bubba" Jeff was referring to wasn't Bill Clinton. But yeah everything in there was a personal conversation besides the part where Trump was blowing somebody".

Dude seemed like he was even more of a snake than his brother.

Maybe Epstein meant Bibi and not Bubba that Trump was fellating...

But, I mean this is all about the victims right? And not Mossad, Trump, BJs and making rich people pay... its about justice for the victims.

Right?




Right?

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Yes, there was an allegation that Trump gave Clinton a Lewinsky.

So Dems would have you believe that Trump likes to be peed on by Russian hookers and plays Mark May to his friends.

Makes all there other accusations all the more believable.

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Nothing is real until it's real. So, if Trump's stuff isn't real with just what's been released, how can anyone else's be either?

There's going to be an eff ton of "there there" eventually, but right now we're still in the "damn I want (fill in the blank) to be true because of the letter by the name" stage.

Baby steps. It's coming.

No Spin Ag said:

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Baby steps. It's coming.

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Kool-aid. Drink it.

Just be prepared for mass disappointment.

flown-the-coop said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Baby steps. It's coming.

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Kool-aid. Drink it.

Just be prepared for mass disappointment.

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As long as everything comes out, redaction free, that's all one can ask for.

If it helps get justice brought on the pedophiles who raped and sexually assaulted minors, all the better.

Like I've always said, for me, this is about justice for minors being raped by pedophile monsters.

I think we'd all be happy if that were to come from the files being fully released, que no?

Ervin Burrell said:

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LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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Speaks volumes that you 1) feel the need to call the first two out as "black", as if that matters...no one has mentioned race on this thread at all (BTW, Jeffries is black...you should update your post). And 2) ignore the fact that Trump's name was littered throughout the first dump, including in reference to spending time with a victim, oral sex with a dude, and being called the worst person in the world (by one of the worst people in the world, LOL)...but yeah, he's "not listed."

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Wait, so now Trump is being accused of oral sex with men? LOL. Do you have the email talking about him blowing other dudes, or vice versa? Any uupdate on those pee tapes? Or russia collusion?

Are you Roland Martin? You love to race bait.

The lefties think "eh, blowing another guy? Sure, I can see any male considering that even if you aren't gay. This is credible."

DannyDuberstein said:

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The lefties think "eh, blowing another guy? Sure, I can see any male considering that even if you aren't gay. This is credible."

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Haha yep...I have said it for years...their ultimate weakness is that they are ALWAYS projecting, and they are not even aware of it. They cannot help it. They think that the other side must be of the same nature as themselves and they make accusations accordingly.

"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty"

Ervin Burrell said:

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LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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Speaks volumes that you 1) feel the need to call the first two out as "black", as if that matters...no one has mentioned race on this thread at all (BTW, Jeffries is black...you should update your post). And 2) ignore the fact that Trump's name was littered throughout the first dump, including in reference to spending time with a victim, oral sex with a dude, and being called the worst person in the world (by one of the worst people in the world, LOL)...but yeah, he's "not listed."

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LOL.

You guys should stop placing so much faith in that village idiot Michael Wolff. I swear Wolff is a sicko and dreams daily about some prison sex with Trump.

LOL.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Ervin Burrell said:

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LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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Speaks volumes that you 1) feel the need to call the first two out as "black", as if that matters...no one has mentioned race on this thread at all (BTW, Jeffries is black...you should update your post). And 2) ignore the fact that Trump's name was littered throughout the first dump, including in reference to spending time with a victim, oral sex with a dude, and being called the worst person in the world (by one of the worst people in the world, LOL)...but yeah, he's "not listed."

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Wait, so now Trump is being accused of oral sex with men? LOL. Do you have the email talking about him blowing other dudes, or vice versa? Any uupdate on those pee tapes? Or russia collusion?

Are you Roland Martin? You love to race bait.

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Never said I believed it, just pointing out to the poster saying that he's not in the files that that's a complete lie. I do know for a fact that if Biden or any other Dem were in an email in that same context, every poster on this board would be 1,000% certain said person was gay.

Ervin Burrell said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Ervin Burrell said:

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LMCane said:

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I am not enthralled with some dead criminal like 10 million others so trying to catch up here.

so far:

black democrat politician from Virgin Islands caught asking Epstein for help

black democrat politician falsely accuses Lee Zeldin and others of getting contributions from a DIFFERENT Epstein

democrat party bigwig and Harvard Professor Larry Summers forced to semi resign for his links to Epstein

Hakeem Jefferies TEMU obama asked Epstein for campaign donations

strangely, no Donald Trump listed!

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Speaks volumes that you 1) feel the need to call the first two out as "black", as if that matters...no one has mentioned race on this thread at all (BTW, Jeffries is black...you should update your post). And 2) ignore the fact that Trump's name was littered throughout the first dump, including in reference to spending time with a victim, oral sex with a dude, and being called the worst person in the world (by one of the worst people in the world, LOL)...but yeah, he's "not listed."

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Wait, so now Trump is being accused of oral sex with men? LOL. Do you have the email talking about him blowing other dudes, or vice versa? Any uupdate on those pee tapes? Or russia collusion?

Are you Roland Martin? You love to race bait.

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Never said I believed it, just pointing out to the poster saying that he's not in the files that that's a complete lie. I do know for a fact that if Biden or any other Dem were in an email in that same context, every poster on this board would be 1,000% certain said person was gay.

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Because they are.

To be honest on this whole oral sex thing, Donica Lewinsky was not on my bingo card.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/20/us/politics/jeffrey-epstein-jpmorgan-chase-ron-wyden.html?searchResultPosition=1
JPMorgan Chase waited until after Espstein's death to report over a billion dollars on suspicious activity reports.

Surely there's nothing to this! It was only Jeff and Ghislaine. No other powerful people involved. Case closed. Stop asking about the files!