David_Puddy said:
Dear liberal idiots,
YOU'RE COMMITTING A CRIME WHEN YOU ENTER THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
Sincerely,
Non radical American citizens
No, he is an enemy of our Republic. Deep port him.redcrayon said:
"The new data obtained by NBC News shows that from Oct. 1 to May 31, ICE arrested 752 people convicted of homicide and 1,693 people convicted of sexual assault, meaning that at the absolute most, the Trump administration has detained only 6% of the undocumented immigrants known to ICE to have been convicted of homicide and 11% of those known to ICE to have been convicted of sexual assault."
Yamiche is dumb.
One of my favorite things to do when I'm bored now is find some liberal about deportations that comes through my X feed and quote back their "No one is above the law" tweets. It's fantastic value.David_Puddy said:
Dear liberal idiots,
YOU'RE COMMITTING A CRIME WHEN YOU ENTER THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
Sincerely,
Non radical American citizens
David_Puddy said:
Dear liberal idiots,
YOU'RE COMMITTING A CRIME WHEN YOU ENTER THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
Sincerely,
Non radical American citizens
Ayto Siks said:David_Puddy said:
Dear liberal idiots,
YOU'RE COMMITTING A CRIME WHEN YOU ENTER THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
Sincerely,
Non radical American citizens
See the George O quotes from yesterday's post: "There is no swifter route to the corruption of thought than through the corruption of language"
This is why the verbiage was changed from illegal alien to undocumented worker to migrant/refugee to asylum seeker to farmer or hotel worker.
Emotional Support Cobra said:The Marksman said:
Doesn't matter if they've committed homicide. They've entered our country illegally. That's a crime. They have to go back.
But, but, they are asylees!!!1!
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She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do at a salary she is willing to pay.
DVM97 said:
While I understand the concept of "illegal immigrants" breaking the law by just being here, we really need to look at things from a big picture.
I have a very good friend (Trump voter/supporter), she runs/owns a very high end landscaping business in the River Oaks, Memorial area of Houston. She normally has 3 FT crews, each generally working on $100k landscaping projects. She is down to 2 crews, she cannot find workers because they are scared to work. She is literally losing over $600k in annual revenue because no one else will work in the Summer heat planting and cleaning flower beds. She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do. She is upset with the administration because it was her understanding that only the "worst of the worst" were going to be targeted. Not her work crews.
A good friend in construction can't find framers, hence slowing down his home building business.
Another friend has a grass farm, he sells over $3 million in sod to the Houston market. He can't find help to keep up with demand and has trucks and trailers sitting waiting for grass pallets to be loaded and shipped. No one wants to work in the sun loading sod onto trailers.
I have looked into the H2-B visa for an individual that is currently here "illegally" the process for the employer is tedious. The requirements on the business owner to get H2-B visa workers is cumbersome, with very stringent requirements that small businesses likely can't afford.
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
No, they are not all terrible and many of them work hard and just want to be left alone.Quote:
Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
That is weird, because when I cant hire employees you know what I have to do? I have to offer more money. This whole no one will work in the sun is bull. Outside of the corporate leeches our entire company is manual labor in the sun, 50 hours or more a week. It is just more expensive.DVM97 said:
While I understand the concept of "illegal immigrants" breaking the law by just being here, we really need to look at things from a big picture.
I have a very good friend (Trump voter/supporter), she runs/owns a very high end landscaping business in the River Oaks, Memorial area of Houston. She normally has 3 FT crews, each generally working on $100k landscaping projects. She is down to 2 crews, she cannot find workers because they are scared to work. She is literally losing over $600k in annual revenue because no one else will work in the Summer heat planting and cleaning flower beds. She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do. She is upset with the administration because it was her understanding that only the "worst of the worst" were going to be targeted. Not her work crews.
A good friend in construction can't find framers, hence slowing down his home building business.
Another friend has a grass farm, he sells over $3 million in sod to the Houston market. He can't find help to keep up with demand and has trucks and trailers sitting waiting for grass pallets to be loaded and shipped. No one wants to work in the sun loading sod onto trailers.
I have looked into the H2-B visa for an individual that is currently here "illegally" the process for the employer is tedious. The requirements on the business owner to get H2-B visa workers is cumbersome, with very stringent requirements that small businesses likely can't afford.
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
I've never met anyone who believes that "all illegals are terrible people." Even the most ardent anti-immigration folks recognize that many are here for opportunity.DVM97 said:
Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
This. Once language becomes meaningless, society is broken. The left has been trying to do this for decadesAyto Siks said:David_Puddy said:
Dear liberal idiots,
YOU'RE COMMITTING A CRIME WHEN YOU ENTER THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
Sincerely,
Non radical American citizens
See the George O quotes from yesterday's post: "There is no swifter route to the corruption of thought than through the corruption of language"
This is why the verbiage was changed from illegal alien to undocumented worker to migrant/refugee to asylum seeker.
You're missing the point that most of the ones that have been captured by ICE have criminal records IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY!!!! WGAF if they haven't been accused or been convicted of a crime here in the US yet.Ragoo said:
Reading is hard.
6% of the KNOWN
752/0.06 =12,533
Or
12533 * 0.06 =752
So the admin has arrested a bunch of illegals but their focus hasn't been on the worst of the worst as what was communicated during the campaign. The media is trying to say that trump is a liar but I say who cares.
One other point ... the idea that illegal workers are a victimless crime is false. Many of them pass E-Verify using stolen identities, which causes real hardship for those citizens. That's how ICE busted the Glen Valley plant in Nebraska.DVM97 said:
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
Tell her to pay more and she can get all the workers she needs.DVM97 said:
While I understand the concept of "illegal immigrants" breaking the law by just being here, we really need to look at things from a big picture.
I have a very good friend (Trump voter/supporter), she runs/owns a very high end landscaping business in the River Oaks, Memorial area of Houston. She normally has 3 FT crews, each generally working on $100k landscaping projects. She is down to 2 crews, she cannot find workers because they are scared to work. She is literally losing over $600k in annual revenue because no one else will work in the Summer heat planting and cleaning flower beds. She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do. She is upset with the administration because it was her understanding that only the "worst of the worst" were going to be targeted. Not her work crews.
A good friend in construction can't find framers, hence slowing down his home building business.
Another friend has a grass farm, he sells over $3 million in sod to the Houston market. He can't find help to keep up with demand and has trucks and trailers sitting waiting for grass pallets to be loaded and shipped. No one wants to work in the sun loading sod onto trailers.
I have looked into the H2-B visa for an individual that is currently here "illegally" the process for the employer is tedious. The requirements on the business owner to get H2-B visa workers is cumbersome, with very stringent requirements that small businesses likely can't afford.
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
But somehow the true content of the tweet doesn't sound any better than the false information in the tweet.unmade bed said:
The OP is about the tweet-er misinterpreting the statistic but most of the responses to this thread are running with the misinterpretation.
The statistic is that only 6% of the illegals that ICE told congress last fall it knows of that are in the country and convicted of murder have been deported.
So last fall, ICE said there were 13,099 illegals in the country that had been convicted of murder. Thus far, ICE has only deported 752 of them (or 6%).
torrid said:
We can all have a good laugh about the statistics and the poor wording, but clearly the reporter expected 100% of the initial deportation efforts to focus on muderers/violent criminals. That at least acknowledges there are illegals who are murderers and violent criminals.
Do you see the irony here? She's losing $600 K but can't afford the time or effort to do it right?DVM97 said:
While I understand the concept of "illegal immigrants" breaking the law by just being here, we really need to look at things from a big picture.
I have a very good friend (Trump voter/supporter), she runs/owns a very high end landscaping business in the River Oaks, Memorial area of Houston. She normally has 3 FT crews, each generally working on $100k landscaping projects. She is down to 2 crews, she cannot find workers because they are scared to work. She is literally losing over $600k in annual revenue because no one else will work in the Summer heat planting and cleaning flower beds. She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do. She is upset with the administration because it was her understanding that only the "worst of the worst" were going to be targeted. Not her work crews.
A good friend in construction can't find framers, hence slowing down his home building business.
Another friend has a grass farm, he sells over $3 million in sod to the Houston market. He can't find help to keep up with demand and has trucks and trailers sitting waiting for grass pallets to be loaded and shipped. No one wants to work in the sun loading sod onto trailers.
I have looked into the H2-B visa for an individual that is currently here "illegally" the process for the employer is tedious. The requirements on the business owner to get H2-B visa workers is cumbersome, with very stringent requirements that small businesses likely can't afford.
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
Looks like you have a lot of friends who are going to have to increase what they pay their employees.DVM97 said:
While I understand the concept of "illegal immigrants" breaking the law by just being here, we really need to look at things from a big picture.
I have a very good friend (Trump voter/supporter), she runs/owns a very high end landscaping business in the River Oaks, Memorial area of Houston. She normally has 3 FT crews, each generally working on $100k landscaping projects. She is down to 2 crews, she cannot find workers because they are scared to work. She is literally losing over $600k in annual revenue because no one else will work in the Summer heat planting and cleaning flower beds. She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do. She is upset with the administration because it was her understanding that only the "worst of the worst" were going to be targeted. Not her work crews.
A good friend in construction can't find framers, hence slowing down his home building business.
Another friend has a grass farm, he sells over $3 million in sod to the Houston market. He can't find help to keep up with demand and has trucks and trailers sitting waiting for grass pallets to be loaded and shipped. No one wants to work in the sun loading sod onto trailers.
I have looked into the H2-B visa for an individual that is currently here "illegally" the process for the employer is tedious. The requirements on the business owner to get H2-B visa workers is cumbersome, with very stringent requirements that small businesses likely can't afford.
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
For Dem run cities it's an improvement.DrEvazanPhD said:
That's a reasonable number of murderers, wouldn't you say?
Sorry, but emotional plays for sympathy are falling on deaf ears.DVM97 said:
While I understand the concept of "illegal immigrants" breaking the law by just being here, we really need to look at things from a big picture.
I have a very good friend (Trump voter/supporter), she runs/owns a very high end landscaping business in the River Oaks, Memorial area of Houston. She normally has 3 FT crews, each generally working on $100k landscaping projects. She is down to 2 crews, she cannot find workers because they are scared to work. She is literally losing over $600k in annual revenue because no one else will work in the Summer heat planting and cleaning flower beds. She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do. She is upset with the administration because it was her understanding that only the "worst of the worst" were going to be targeted. Not her work crews.
A good friend in construction can't find framers, hence slowing down his home building business.
Another friend has a grass farm, he sells over $3 million in sod to the Houston market. He can't find help to keep up with demand and has trucks and trailers sitting waiting for grass pallets to be loaded and shipped. No one wants to work in the sun loading sod onto trailers.
I have looked into the H2-B visa for an individual that is currently here "illegally" the process for the employer is tedious. The requirements on the business owner to get H2-B visa workers is cumbersome, with very stringent requirements that small businesses likely can't afford.
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
The amount of social freebies that illegals get is not sustainable. All hospital care and schools are free, yet illegal immigrants do not contribute to the tax base. You cannot run your house budget on a deficit, yet that is what this country is doing.CDUB98 said:No, they are not all terrible and many of them work hard and just want to be left alone.Quote:
Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
I am 100% in favor of a guest worker type program where we can provide these folks a way to do a lot of this hard labor so long as we can 100% verify their identity, their lack of criminal history, and their vaccination status BEFORE they ever cross the border.
We would need more resources at the gov't level to do this, but it is a viable, workable solution.......but nobody wants that.
Sounds like your friends need some help with payroll taxes as well.....DVM97 said:
While I understand the concept of "illegal immigrants" breaking the law by just being here, we really need to look at things from a big picture.
I have a very good friend (Trump voter/supporter), she runs/owns a very high end landscaping business in the River Oaks, Memorial area of Houston. She normally has 3 FT crews, each generally working on $100k landscaping projects. She is down to 2 crews, she cannot find workers because they are scared to work. She is literally losing over $600k in annual revenue because no one else will work in the Summer heat planting and cleaning flower beds. She is upset because her crews are not criminals, thugs, rapists, they are hard workers who do the work that NO ONE else will do. She is upset with the administration because it was her understanding that only the "worst of the worst" were going to be targeted. Not her work crews.
A good friend in construction can't find framers, hence slowing down his home building business.
Another friend has a grass farm, he sells over $3 million in sod to the Houston market. He can't find help to keep up with demand and has trucks and trailers sitting waiting for grass pallets to be loaded and shipped. No one wants to work in the sun loading sod onto trailers.
I have looked into the H2-B visa for an individual that is currently here "illegally" the process for the employer is tedious. The requirements on the business owner to get H2-B visa workers is cumbersome, with very stringent requirements that small businesses likely can't afford.
I'd just like folks to look at things big picture wise. Not all "illegals" are terrible people. They pay sales tax, gasoline taxes, rents, etc. and do help the economy by keeping small businesses going.
