Kilmar Abrego Garcia is on his way back to the US

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redcrayon said:

Pacifico said:

G Martin 87 said:

W00chang said:

I agree with it may end up being good politically for Republicans for the democrats to continue to fawn over the gangbanger, but for an administration trying to cut costs and be more efficient, this cannot be good. How many hundreds of thousands of $$$ is it to find him, deport him once, bring him back, charge him, try him in court and then potentially deport him again?
Well, if it's any consolation, it has to cost a lot less to rename the USNS Harvey Milk.
I know Harvey Milk was in the Navy for four years. Is that why they named the boat after him or was it for some other reason?
You don't get a ship named after you for merely being in the Navy for four years. HTH

Then why is it named Harvey Milk?
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sam callahan said:

Actually gives the democrats an out. Once convicted they will be able to distance from him and say "we are glad justice prevailed. All we wanted was the rule of law and Trump is lawless"

This is a problem of ruling republicans living in the DC bubble. They lose touch very easily and cave.
Yeah sure, keep telling yourself that...meanwhile:
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Don't engage with your liberal friends over this. Let them defend it.
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pdc093 said:

These malcontents are now interfering with ICE and LOCAL LE at Courthouses, causing complete CHAOS.

Every one of those "activists" just committed a felony.

Welcome to PRISON for your activism idiots.

If you haven't noticed, THIS administration actually tries to prosecute that *****
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Pacifico said:

Don't engage with your liberal friends over this. Let them defend it.
WTF are those?

I don't have any liberal anything.
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Charpie said:

WTF? WHY?


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Mistakenly deported Salvadoran native Kilmar Abrego Garcia is on his way back to the United States where he will face criminal charges for allegedly transporting undocumented migrants within the U.S., according to sources familiar with the matter.

More than two months after the Trump administration admitted it mistakenly deported Abrego Garcia from Maryland to his native El Salvador, a federal grand jury has indicted him for allegedly transporting undocumented migrants within the United States, ABC News has learned.

Just leave him there!


https://abcnews.go.com/US/mistakenly-deported-kilmar-abrego-garcia-back-us-face/story?id=121333122&cid=social_twitter_abcn
Yeah, let them commit crimes, arrest them, deport them, just to they can come right back and commit more crimes. Liberals, I swear.
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YokelRidesAgain said:

BadMoonRisin said:

How does one mistakenly deport someone to their native country?

What kind of r*tarded fools believe any of this nonsense?
There was an unchallenged court order barring his deportation to El Salvador, although not his deportation in general. The administration could have, in theory, deported him to any other country willing to accept him.
Should have deported him to a 3rd country.

Then maybe that 3rd country decides they don't want him and deport him to El Salvador.

Not OUR fault now, is it.
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Such a GREAT KID - Concerned Moderate
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YokelRidesAgain said:

BadMoonRisin said:

How does one mistakenly deport someone to their native country?

What kind of r*tarded fools believe any of this nonsense?
There was an unchallenged court order barring his deportation to El Salvador, although not his deportation in general. The administration could have, in theory, deported him to any other country willing to accept him.
Again, given the allegations and charges now, WHY do we live in a society that issues court orders barring deporting people back to the country where they have citizenship and instead insists on keeping them in the country they broke into?

My question stands...

How does one mistakenly deport someone to their native country?

What kind of r*tarded fools believe any of this nonsense? And what kind of ****** government dictate these insane outcomes?

TPS for Venezuela was ended a few weeks ago, so this dude is just going to either stay in prison here or get shipped right back 'Zuela Prime in just a few weeks.
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BadMoonRisin said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

BadMoonRisin said:

How does one mistakenly deport someone to their native country?

What kind of r*tarded fools believe any of this nonsense?
There was an unchallenged court order barring his deportation to El Salvador, although not his deportation in general. The administration could have, in theory, deported him to any other country willing to accept him.
Again, given the allegations and charges now, WHY do we live in a society that issues court orders barring deporting people back to the country where they have citizenship and instead insists on keeping them in the country they broke into?

My question stands...

How does one mistakenly deport someone to their native country?

What kind of r*tarded fools believe any of this nonsense? And what kind of ****** government dictate these insane outcomes?

TPS for Venezuela was ended a few weeks ago, so this dude is just going to either stay in prison here or get shipped right back 'Zuela Prime in just a few weeks.
Correct, after he gets out of jail it is adios back to the crap hole he came from
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You voted for this
Charpie
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No I didn't
ts5641
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I thought Bukele was refusing to send him back? We just need to ignore every federal judge's orders on immigration for the next 3 1/2 years. It's what the left would and will do.
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LOL. Well, bye.
Ellis Wyatt
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Then he is an idiot.
Ellis Wyatt
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They absolutely followed the process.
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Quote:

My question stands...

How does one mistakenly deport someone to their native country?



Your question was answered.

There was a withholding order in place from 2019 saying he could not be deported to El Salvador because he was fearful for his life or something like that. The Trump administration did not appeal it and released him. I think he even got a work permit at that time.

He was mistakenly deported to El Salvador due to administrative error because they failed to get that withholding order lifted before deporting him. His gang membership would have been sufficient to get that done.

So once that order was gone, they could deport him.


The Trump position is that despite of the administrative mistake, the court lacked jurisdiction to hear the habeas case because he was already gone. The US attorney was fired for not zealously advocating the lack of jurisdiction position at the hearing in district court.


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What kind of r*tarded fools believe any of this nonsense?


Among others, The solicitor general, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito

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And what kind of ****** government dictate these insane outcomes?


A government of laws.

Trump administration does not like the result, but they followed it. And are making the best of it by indicting this human trafficker
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Rapier108 said:

4stringAg said:

Rapier108 said:

This gives the rogue judges now unlimited power to do whatever they want.

He will never be deported again; in fact a judge will likely grant him residency if not citizenship.

Soon a judge will likely put a complete halt to all deportations nationwide if not stop ICE completely from arresting anyone.

The left has won and in 2029, they will grant citizenship to the army they let invade us for 4 years.
Trump will end up ignoring the courts before he'll halt the deportations and stop ICE from doing the job they are supposed to do.
I doubt it.

He's caved to their every single demand so far.

And if he ignores it, there will be enough votes in the House for impeachment.


He's doing it to use it as a political sledgehammer against the left. Expose all the atrocities this man committed and link it to the support the left gave him.
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ts5641 said:

We just need to ignore every federal judge's orders on immigration for the next 3 1/2 years. It's what the left would and will do.


See post on page 2. No matter how much some want Trump to be lawless, he's not going to be.

Vote Democratic if you want someone to ignore the law
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aggie93 said:

This actually works out better politically. Keeps the story in the news and they get to show how Democrats went and pleaded to bring back a child trafficker to the US and got their wish so he can rot in jail here. It also shatters any of the "Maryland man" crap permanently.
Yes, correct.

Let him become the face of the Democratic Party.
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LOL

Now he will be found guilty of human smuggling and trafficking of drugs/guns in the United States and after he's found guilty (which will be easy), he'll be deported back to El Salvador where he will be put in prison again.

Except this time, the Democrats will look like the complete fools they are.
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Except this time


This time?


They looked that way from the jump on this.
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zephyr88 said:

LOL

Now he will be found guilty of human smuggling and trafficking of drugs/guns in the United States and after he's found guilty (which will be easy), he'll be deported back to El Salvador where he will be put in prison again.

Except this time, the Democrats will look like the complete fools they are.

That depends. He may end up serving his sentence here and then be deported. They can do one or the other. I can see a situation where he agrees to plead guilty and serve his sentence here and then be deported, because I'm sure he'd rather spend time in prison here than in El Salvador.
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HTownAg98 said:

zephyr88 said:

LOL

Now he will be found guilty of human smuggling and trafficking of drugs/guns in the United States and after he's found guilty (which will be easy), he'll be deported back to El Salvador where he will be put in prison again.

Except this time, the Democrats will look like the complete fools they are.

That depends. He may end up serving his sentence here and then be deported. They can do one or the other. I can see a situation where he agrees to plead guilty and serve his sentence here and then be deported, because I'm sure he'd rather spend time in prison here than in El Salvador.
It's all a W, now just a matter of choosing which W they want. Is it better to keep him here and in prison or send him to El Salvador? Pretty sure they can make either legal argument. Wouldn't surprise me if Trump doesn't choose whatever will make Dems squeal more so he can keep the case in the headlines.
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The Democrats wanted Garcia, now they're going to get him, and he will be a figurative anchor around their necks.

I really believe they thought Trump would never give in and bring him back, and that they could stand on their soap box and use it as a politcial hammer. Now they are the nail.
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Yep, I hope it goes to trial and he pleads not guilty. They'll be forced to cover this one. Make his wife plead spousal privilege against testifying as to domestic abuses as well.

Maybe even get him to become an informant about his bosses and other MS13 gang members.
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Next lawyer out the door?



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Pacifico said:

This guy is a Maryland man according to FOX news Austin.
He is not. He is a citizen of El Salvador.
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HTownAg98 said:

annie88 said:

He wasn't mistakenly deported, no matter what the left says. The guy is a citizen of El Salvador was here illegally and was doing illegal things. The Trump administration said if the El Salvador president wanted to send him back they would deal with it, but they weren't going to push for it. And if he was sent back, he would've been deported immediately or he will be tried for his crimes. They warned him. They warned everyone. But the Democrats didn't care. They made him their cause celeb.

This isn't a bad luck on the Trump side. It's a bad luck on the Democrats and the judges side. HTH.

It isn't just the left saying that. SCOTUS said it, because the government admitted it. That would make it a true statement.
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The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal. The United States represents that the removal to El Salvador was the result of an "administrative error."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf
That's just talking about his removal apparently, regarding an order forbidding his removal. Not sure if that came from the Biden administration or what.

EDIT: But I get your point technically he was deported mistakenly, but only because of the protective order and he should've been anyway because he was illegal. And apparently a massive criminal. Which I have to believe they knew about before he was given this protection order. Either way I hope the guy is screwed.

He was and always has been a citizen of El Salvador.
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BigRobSA said:

Pacifico said:

Don't engage with your liberal friends over this. Let them defend it.
WTF are those?

I don't have any liberal anything.
You're gonna sit here and tell us you don't have liberal use of barbecue sauce or queso?
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The withholding order was in 2019. Trump admin did not appeal, so he was then allowed to live/work here. He chose to be human trafficker.

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Im Gipper said:

The withholding order was in 2019. Trump admin did not appeal, so he was then allowed to live/work here. He chose to be human trafficker.
And he's always been an illegal, citizen of El Salvador.

Still can't believe this is the guy the Democrats threw their **** behind. Of course, after George Floyd and Eric Brown we should've realized.

They are always championing thugs and perpetrating lies.
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No wonder he didn't want a real job! WOW!


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So he's staying in ICE custody.


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