Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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Mort Rainey
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Muy said:

And guarantee that lady can't afford to live up here raising 5 boys on her own when she has time to stand out there all week.


Sure she can because the government pays for them. You and I support her kids more than she does.
fc2112
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jrdaustin said:

And to the dip**** on Court TV who is complaining because Karmello "only stabbed him once"

I wonder, in his mind, how many times one needs to stab someone else for it to be murder.
TRX
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Can y'all post some of these Court TV clips? I want to laugh too!

I'm on the website and there's a trial about a boat accident in FL.

EDIT: used the YT link posted previously and rewound. LMAO! Those people are insane.
ULTRA MAGA
Mort Rainey
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JerryHelper said:

With all due respect, where exactly are those black people today? Where are the black people saying he's an embarrassment to their race? Where are the black people saying this is Justice?

Because the only black people im hearing from are the ones singing from the same old playbook of crying victim, not caring about violence against innocent white people, and excusing crimes purely because of the color of someone's skin.

They have no one to blame but themselves for this image because it's the only one they put out to the world.


Say it louder!
Highway6
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Mort Rainey said:

Gaeilge said:




You literally can't move far enough away from these people.

I sure as hell tried
Danny Vermin
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#FJB
FireAg
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I did not follow this trial closely…

Did the defense really put a witness on the stand who admitted that KA provoked the confrontation to begin with?
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jrdaustin said:

Old_Ag_91 said:

I went back and listened again and heard the one guy say "he only stabbed him once", yes he stabbed him in the chest directly into the heart and killed him. He was asked to leave multiple times. Why do these court tv nutballs question that the jury came up with murder?! Sounds pretty dang murderous to me. Manslaughter seems more like an accident if anything but KA seemed to have intent to kill someone (he brought a knife with him after all).

My mother asked me the difference between manslaughter and murder. I said manslaughter is someone who's driving and staring at their phone as they plow over a pedestrian. (To be fair, that might also fall under criminally negligent homicide). But murder involves a willful, deliberate act that could knowingly cause the death of another.

Baiting someone with a "Touch me and find out" challenge, then sticking a knife in their chest is about an easy of a murder call as there is.

And to the dip**** on Court TV who is complaining because Karmello "only stabbed him once", WTF do you expect of plunging a knife into the chest of another? If he really wants to split hairs, and even allowing for the possession of a knife at a track meet, as well as outright provoking the scenario, the ONLY way I would consider a manslaughter charge would have been if Karmello would have used a slicing motion and somehow caught an artery. And likely not even then. But a full-on stab wound???? Not a chance.


Manslaughter and murder are homicides governed by statutes in the various states. CLASSICAL criminal law puts homicides in one of 4 areas according to the mind and/or method of the actor (mens rea, etc.): intentionally, knowingly, negligently or recklessly. The first two are murder 1 and 2 respectively; the second two are man 1 and 2 (I may have those backwards).

Again, this is CLASSICAL criminal law and not necessarily representative of statutes in Texas or anywhere else. But it is a way to think about it.
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fc2112 said:

jrdaustin said:

And to the dip**** on Court TV who is complaining because Karmello "only stabbed him once"

I wonder, in his mind, how many times one needs to stab someone else for it to be murder.

Iryna Zarutska was stabbed once and it was enough to end her life.
Ellis Wyatt
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FireAg said:

I did not follow this trial closely…

Did the defense really put a witness on the stand who admitted that KA provoked the confrontation to begin with?
Yes. There were no actual witnesses who could defend the murder.
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FireAg said:

I did not follow this trial closely…

Did the defense really put a witness on the stand who admitted that KA provoked the confrontation to begin with?

Yep...
Tree Hugger
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Another take from the "lady with 5 boys" video.

The doofus filming beside her saying "Rest in Peace Trayvon Martin" out of nowhere and for no apparent reason.
A Net Full of Jello
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JerryHelper said:

With all due respect, where exactly are those black people today? Where are the black people saying he's an embarrassment to their race? Where are the black people saying this is Justice?

Because the only black people im hearing from are the ones singing from the same old playbook of crying victim, not caring about violence against innocent white people, and excusing crimes purely because of the color of someone's skin.

They have no one to blame but themselves for this image because it's the only one they put out to the world.

Look up Officer Brandon Tatum on youtube.
Mort Rainey
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" After the jury returned to the courtroom, Judge Roach explained that the issue of "sudden passion" had been raised. He said that if jurors believe he committed the murder under sudden passion, they will decide between a sentencing range of two to 20 years.

If the jurors do not reach a unanimous verdict, Judge Roach said, they will decide between 5 and 99 years in prison."

This isn't over yet. He could still slide through on a much lighter sentence.
jrdaustin
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BMX Bandit said:

fc2112 said:

Mort Rainey said:

Gaeilge said:




You literally can't move far enough away from these people.

Why do you think the Dallas North Tollway is being extended to the Red River?



Connecting Indian county to Indian country

ISWYDT. Underrated post.
Muy
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Mort Rainey said:

" After the jury returned to the courtroom, Judge Roach explained that the issue of "sudden passion" had been raised. He said that if jurors believe he committed the murder under sudden passion, they will decide between a sentencing range of two to 20 years.

If the jurors do not reach a unanimous verdict, Judge Roach said, they will decide between 5 and 99 years in prison."

This isn't over yet. He could still slide through on a much lighter sentence.


If Austin were my son I'd beg the judge to let Karmelo out today.
Serious Lee
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is Savanah right, same lady?

"Better mine than yours!"

TAMUallen
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Mort Rainey said:

" After the jury returned to the courtroom, Judge Roach explained that the issue of "sudden passion" had been raised. He said that if jurors believe he committed the murder under sudden passion, they will decide between a sentencing range of two to 20 years.

If the jurors do not reach a unanimous verdict, Judge Roach said, they will decide between 5 and 99 years in prison."

This isn't over yet. He could still slide through on a much lighter sentence.


I sure hope they don't **** this up.
usmcbrooks
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Mort Rainey said:

" After the jury returned to the courtroom, Judge Roach explained that the issue of "sudden passion" had been raised. He said that if jurors believe he committed the murder under sudden passion, they will decide between a sentencing range of two to 20 years.

If the jurors do not reach a unanimous verdict, Judge Roach said, they will decide between 5 and 99 years in prison."

This isn't over yet. He could still slide through on a much lighter sentence.

Why would the DA agree to that, mercy, compassion?
4stringAg
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Mort Rainey said:

" After the jury returned to the courtroom, Judge Roach explained that the issue of "sudden passion" had been raised. He said that if jurors believe he committed the murder under sudden passion, they will decide between a sentencing range of two to 20 years.

If the jurors do not reach a unanimous verdict, Judge Roach said, they will decide between 5 and 99 years in prison."

This isn't over yet. He could still slide through on a much lighter sentence.

So they have to be unanimous on sudden passion to get to the 2 to 20 year range.

My guess in all of this is it settles around 30-40 years. If someone is asking about 'sudden passion' then there are probably some in the jury pool willing to give him a lighter sentence while others want to go for max time. End result is maybe a meet somewhere in the middle.
Im Gipper
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Not really a basis to object to that instruction, so why build in potential error?

Has nothing to do with mercy.

I'm Gipper
usmcbrooks
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Im Gipper said:

Not really a basis to object to that instruction, so why build in potential error?

Has nothing to do with mercy.

So that is pretty common?
aggiehawg
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He said that if jurors believe he committed the murder under sudden passion, they will decide between a sentencing range of two to 20 years.


Obviously the jury did not have that on their radar as they negated self defense since Anthony was the instigator in their view. As the fact finder, that is their purview. But from what I have seen, there was little to no evidence to support sudden passion and Anthony didn't testify.
Muy
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Doesn't sound like Karmelo has shown any level of remorse for this. I wonder if he had a DGAS look on his face during the trial, and if that will influence the jury sentencing.
Im Gipper
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usmcbrooks said:

Im Gipper said:

Not really a basis to object to that instruction, so why build in potential error?

Has nothing to do with mercy.

So that is pretty common?


When there is some evidence it sudden passion, it's required.


aggiehawg post above on this is very accurate in my view.

I'm Gipper
fc2112
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usmcbrooks said:

Mort Rainey said:

" After the jury returned to the courtroom, Judge Roach explained that the issue of "sudden passion" had been raised. He said that if jurors believe he committed the murder under sudden passion, they will decide between a sentencing range of two to 20 years.

If the jurors do not reach a unanimous verdict, Judge Roach said, they will decide between 5 and 99 years in prison."

This isn't over yet. He could still slide through on a much lighter sentence.

Why would the DA agree to that, mercy, compassion?

Because it won't happen. Jurors need to be unanimous in believing "sudden passion" for it to become the new sentencing guideline.

That won't happen, so it will remain 5-99.

One less thing for defense to point at in appeal.
Hardcore Greg
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Mort Rainey said:

Gaeilge said:




You literally can't move far enough away from these people.

Saw someone recently point out that our real estate industry is essentially based almost entirely around how far you can live away from people like this. Hard to argue.

We have quite a few educated mid and upper income Nigerians out here in NW burbs of Houston and they have ZERO patience for people like this. Some of them do not hide it at all...almost like they are proactively signaling "please do not confuse us with these people".
Tree Hugger
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Serious Lee said:

is Savanah right, same lady?

"Better mine than yours!"



Is that a little bottle of wine in her claw with the QT cup?
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Pylon Cam said:

All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.


If you've ever wondered why nobody takes you seriously here, this is why.

You post the worst takes I've ever seen, which is rather impressive given what shows up here on a daily basis.

Like many others have said, if you want to leave Texas, I'd be more than happy to help you pack.
Got a Natty!
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25Lighters said:




This guy knows Collin County better than I, but I don't think they will give a teenager a life sentence.

My guess is 30 will be his maximum. Unless he really pisses the jury off when he testifies at punishment. Which could happen.
aggiehawg
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Im Gipper said:

Not really a basis to object to that instruction, so why build in potential error?

Has nothing to do with mercy.

Also, there was no evidence of any sudden passion. Nor events that may have given rise to one. I mean he was asked to leave multiple times but on the 10th time it really really pissed him off?
BlueMiles
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Sure looks like (a small bottle of wine).
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JerryHelper said:

With all due respect, where exactly are those black people today? Where are the black people saying he's an embarrassment to their race? Where are the black people saying this is Justice?

Because the only black people im hearing from are the ones singing from the same old playbook of crying victim, not caring about violence against innocent white people, and excusing crimes purely because of the color of someone's skin.

They have no one to blame but themselves for this image because it's the only one they put out to the world.

There are a few.
But the black community has perpetuated its own destruction by aligning themselves to the democrat party. The party that openly panders to that race, because when all you have is a racist hammer, everything is a racist nail. This is reflected in this thread - orange (pylons) being the new black - and in the media where you have liberals openly supporting the murder of an innocent kid, because the perp is black.
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F him and his family
usmcbrooks
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Hardcore Greg said:

Mort Rainey said:

Gaeilge said:




You literally can't move far enough away from these people.

Saw someone recently point out that our real estate industry is essentially based almost entirely around how far you can live away from people like this. Hard to argue.

We have quite a few educated mid and upper income Nigerians out here in NW burbs of Houston and they have ZERO patience for people like this. Some of them do not hide it at all...almost like they are proactively signaling "please do not confuse us with these people".

This is true in the Wylie school district in Abilene. 487,000 for my 2800 sqft house. Houses that come up for sale in Elm Creek are usually 400k or higher, with a 600 dollar a year HOA fee.
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