Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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In reply to Got a Natty! • 11:50a, 6/9/26
Got a Natty! said:
sam callahan said:
what is really on trial here is our judicial system. If it's anything less than a verdict of guilty of murder we will know even the most straightforward case in a metro suburb can't be tried fairly because of race baiting.

I disagree with you on our judicial system. The problem is bigger than that. It would reflect on our entire society in our country. And that has reared its head for decades but seems like a much bigger problem now than ever before.


Agree. You have an entire segment of this country that thinks the rules don't apply to them. From looting during natural disasters, to rioting over things they don't agree with, to something as simple as not being a garbage human being on a flight or cruise. Race relations have gone straight down the crapper in my lifetime.
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In reply to normalhorn • 11:50a, 6/9/26
normalhorn said:
I've got the same guess.

But with a side bet - if he's in the "wrong" prison, does his sentence end early with him being wheeled out after a skinhead decides to finish him off?


I posted a video awhile back from a dude who served ten years and he said the Aryan Brotherhood will more than likely go at him.
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In reply to Martin Cash • 11:50a, 6/9/26
Yes, that's what I meant
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11:52a, 6/9/26
Quote:
I disagree with you on our judicial system. The problem is bigger than that. It would reflect on our entire society in our country.


I see you improved upon my post, and thank you for it.
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11:56a, 6/9/26
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11:57a, 6/9/26


Damani
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In reply to nbbob • 11:58a, 6/9/26
nbbob said:
Prosperdick said:
nbbob said:
To answer the poster asking for predictions…..

Verdict today
Manslaughter 20 years w 10 served. He will be out before he is 30.

I sure hope you're wrong. Sadly I bet that's the outcome and the KA defenders will STILL be outraged.


I hope I'm wrong too - the Metcalfs deserve justice. But I think there are so many outside elements to this case that the jurors will say "we can satisfy both sides somewhat with a guilty verdict but not one so harsh he is in jail for 50 years."


I hope the jurors are smarter than that. 50 years isn't harsh, Austin Metcalf didn't even get one more day.
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11:59a, 6/9/26
In reality, prisoners that aren't lifers aren't going to risk parole/time credit.

Even for the ones that are lifers, prisoners get tablets now, and no one wants their tablets taken away. They have been pacified the same as a noisy toddler at a restaurant.

Not saying he won't run into a little trouble here and there, but this Oz-esque fantasy of him being constantly assaulted simply isn't what's going to happen.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:59a, 6/9/26
So am I reading that right and the jury can't consider self defense? Branca may have been right about yesterday after all
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In reply to Tergdor • 12:02p, 6/9/26
Tergdor said:
So am I reading that right and the jury can't consider self defense? Branca may have been right about yesterday after all

Pages 4-6.

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In reply to Im Gipper • 12:03p, 6/9/26
My understanding of self defense is that it must be disproven before moving to charges, so it wouldn't make sense to put it after. Maybe I'm wrong but the wording of those charges makes it seem like it was never a consideration
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In reply to normalhorn • 12:06p, 6/9/26
normalhorn said:
I've got the same guess.

But with a side bet - if he's in the "wrong" prison, does his sentence end early with him being wheeled out after a skinhead decides to finish him off?

He'll get himself in a bind with his own people far quicker, especially if the money stops.
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In reply to Tergdor • 12:08p, 6/9/26
Tergdor said:
My understanding of self defense is that it must be disproven before moving to charges, so it wouldn't make sense to put it after. Maybe I'm wrong but the wording of those charges makes it seem like it was never a consideration

You have that reversed. They only consider self-defense after they have decided State proved murder beyond a reasonable doubt.

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In reply to FriscoKid • 12:09p, 6/9/26
FriscoKid said:


Damani

Need more people like that dude. I don't mean more black people like that dude. I mean more people like that dude. Trey too.
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In reply to nbbob • 12:10p, 6/9/26
nbbob said:
Prosperdick said:
nbbob said:
To answer the poster asking for predictions…..

Verdict today
Manslaughter 20 years w 10 served. He will be out before he is 30.

I sure hope you're wrong. Sadly I bet that's the outcome and the KA defenders will STILL be outraged.


I hope I'm wrong too - the Metcalfs deserve justice. But I think there are so many outside elements to this case that the jurors will say "we can satisfy both sides somewhat with a guilty verdict but not one so harsh he is in jail for 50 years."

We spend too much time these days trying to satisfy both sides instead of doing what is right. Its the reason we are in the shape we are in. Schools, governments, churches corporations all do it. And if courts do it-- we have no hope for our country.
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12:16p, 6/9/26
Haven't been able to follow today. Has it gone to jury yet?
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In reply to Sea Speed • 12:17p, 6/9/26
Yes.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 12:17p, 6/9/26
Yes
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12:19p, 6/9/26
Awesome thanks, what time did they go in to deliberations?
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In reply to Sea Speed • 12:20p, 6/9/26
About 11 am
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In reply to Z3phyr • 12:22p, 6/9/26
Z3phyr said:
About 11 am


Thank you. My guess is they will have a verdict by 1500.
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12:29p, 6/9/26
Do they determine verdict and sentence at the same time or just verdict now?
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In reply to Teslag • 12:34p, 6/9/26
I believe just the verdict for now
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12:36p, 6/9/26
what kind of timeline. being they went back to deliberate at 11ish, do they normally start with lunch or did they start deliberating for a bit and break for lunch?
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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In reply to Teslag • 12:36p, 6/9/26
Teslag said:
Do they determine verdict and sentence at the same time or just verdict now?

Just guilt or innocence.


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In reply to Im Gipper • 12:37p, 6/9/26
Im Gipper said:
Teslag said:
Do they determine verdict and sentence at the same time or just verdict now?

Just guilt or innocence.



How long after that do they typically announce sentencing?
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In reply to bmac_aggie18 • 12:39p, 6/9/26
bmac_aggie18 said:
Im Gipper said:
Teslag said:
Do they determine verdict and sentence at the same time or just verdict now?

Just guilt or innocence.



How long after that do they typically announce sentencing?

They will then "immediately" start with the sentencing portion of the trial after a guilty verdict. Prosecution calls witnesses, etc.



"Immediately" doesn't mean necessarily right then. The judge may take a few hours break or let them go home for the day. It all just depends. But it won't be next week or anything like that.

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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 12:40p, 6/9/26
AgBQ-00 said:
what kind of timeline. being they went back to deliberate at 11ish, do they normally start with lunch or did they start deliberating for a bit and break for lunch?

Assuming sequestration was not waived, they will start deliberating and food will be brought to them.
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12:42p, 6/9/26
Do defense attorneys "prepare" their clients facing long prison sentences in any way? Obviously they are there to help their client win, but do they coach them on what to do if found guilty and what happens next when facing decades behind bars?
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In reply to Martin Cash • 12:47p, 6/9/26
In the one big felony jury I was on, the lunches were very good. Judge Westfall took care of her jurors.
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12:47p, 6/9/26
No questions yet.
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In reply to Martin Cash • 12:49p, 6/9/26
thanks
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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12:52p, 6/9/26
Kind of random, but is it possible the defense did not have KA testify in his own defense because they anticipate a guilty verdict and would rather save his words for a meaningful apology/allocution during the punishment phase?
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In reply to CheeseSndwch • 12:58p, 6/9/26
CheeseSndwch said:
Kind of random, but is it possible the defense did not have KA testify in his own defense because they anticipate a guilty verdict and would rather save his words for a meaningful apology/allocution during the punishment phase?
maybe? But most likely is simply that most blue collar defendants are too stupid not to say anything stupid while on the stand.
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 12:59p, 6/9/26
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
CheeseSndwch said:
Kind of random, but is it possible the defense did not have KA testify in his own defense because they anticipate a guilty verdict and would rather save his words for a meaningful apology/allocution during the punishment phase?
maybe? But most likely is simply that most blue collar defendants are too stupid not to say anything stupid while on the stand.



That trait is also common amongst white collar defendants as well.
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