How are all the people posting on X if no cameras/phones?

Prosecution closing argument Bill Wirskye

On Karmelo’s touch me comment

“Do not let them turn threat into a warning”

“You heard the testimony, you know it was a threat it wasn’t a warning”

On defense testimony that austin could have stabbed himself

“That’s ludicrous”

“What…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 9, 2026

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Prosecution closing argument Bill Wirskye

On Karmelo's touch me comment

"Do not let them turn threat into a warning"

"You heard the testimony, you know it was a threat it wasn't a warning"

On defense testimony that austin could have stabbed himself

"That's ludicrous"

"What should be important is mindset, he took a knife to a track meet"

"He was going to come out on top of any hostile encounter"

"That's mindset"

"This is one of those rare cases where every important fact can be boiled down to one sentence, you do not get to meet a shove with a stab, especially if you provoke the shove"

"It's crystal clear, the facts are simple, you don't get to meet a shove with a stab, especially if you provoke the shove"

"They said he was confused because the twins were coming at him, again trying to turn the threat into a warning"

"There was no fuse on this thing, they went from zero to a hundred like that"

"Thank goodness we have the video, the video tells the story"

"Why didn't he just not walk away?"
"You see had a choice to walk away and abandon the encounter"

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Remember, Karmelo does not have to prove he was justified in believing deadly force was needed to protect himself from Austin. He just has to convince the jury that there is reasonable doubt as to whether the State proved Karmelo was not justified.

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Going to quibble with your phrasing a bit. The jury will be tasked with deciding if Anthony was reasonable in a belief that deadly force against him was imminent and that Metcalf presented such a threat of death or serious bodily harm. Right or wrong, was that a reasonable conclusion on Anthony's part?

MsDoubleD81 said:

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How are all the people posting on X if no cameras/phones?

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Probably taking short hand and a runner takes the paper out and posts it.

I must have missed reading anywhere that Austin said if he didn't leave he was going to beat KA's ass. Was that from one of the couple of defense witnesses?

aggiehawg said:

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Closing arguments are 35 minutes each.
Prosecutor Bill Wirskye waived right to open so lead defense attorney Mike Howard is starting 

“Austin Metcalf had no legal right to use force to eject Karmelo Anthony from that tent”

“He had no legal right to put his hands on…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 9, 2026

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"Austin Metcalf had no legal right to use force to eject Karmelo Anthony from that tent"

"He had no legal right to put his hands on Karmelo…Karmelo is in a public place"

"We ask you this incredibly tough task which is to follow the law"

"The government wants to make this case about Melo could have just left"

"You heard that a track event is a social event, it was completely common for kids to be milling about and go by and say hi, stop into the tent"

"We know that it was raining, i don't know why we had to have this argument about whether it was raining"

"We know how Texas weather is, so it's easy to think, boy i better get out of this rain"

He says a witness testified "we had no problem with him under the tent while it was raining"

"You have to put yourself in his (Karmelo's) shoes, so you start under that tent, you want to get out of the rain"

"Sure enough one of the people at Memorial says, yea, come on over"

"Then all of the sudden Hunter Metcalf, or Austin say who are you? You need to leave?"

"These guys are much bigger than you, do you turn your back and walk away and take a chance that these teenage boys with their raging hormones"

"Austin and Hunter had the right to tell Melo to leave but they did have the right to use deadly force to make him leave"

"Melo had an absolute right to defend himself against that"

"How do you know in a split second of chaos when it's too late"

"Because if you wait too late to defend yourself self defense is meaningless"

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And Caramello had no right to stab someone in the heart for being asked to leave or in response to being shoved, regardless of the tent, the milling about. Austin and Hunter did not try to use deadly force. What a tard

it was not reported by anyone who has covered the trial I've seen. Could have gotten lost in the wash. would be interested to see if it was worded that way

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I must have missed reading anywhere that Austin said if he didn't leave he was going to beat KA's ass. Was that from one of the couple of defense witnesses?

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Only thing I saw reported was the opposite that Austin said something to the effect that he wasn't going to get into a fight at a track meet.

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Remember, Karmelo does not have to prove he was justified in believing deadly force was needed to protect himself from Austin. He just has to convince the jury that there is reasonable doubt as to whether the State proved Karmelo was not justified.

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Going to quibble with your phrasing a bit. The jury will be tasked with deciding if Anthony was reasonable in a belief that deadly force against him was imminent and that Metcalf presented such a threat of death or serious bodily harm. Right or wrong, was that a reasonable conclusion on Anthony's part?

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"Touch me and see."

The exact opposite.

With closing arguments presented, what are your predictions?


Verdict: guilty of murder
Sentence: no more than 20 years

aggiehawg said:

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Closing arguments are 35 minutes each.
Prosecutor Bill Wirskye waived right to open so lead defense attorney Mike Howard is starting 

“Austin Metcalf had no legal right to use force to eject Karmelo Anthony from that tent”

“He had no legal right to put his hands on…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 9, 2026

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"Austin Metcalf had no legal right to use force to eject Karmelo Anthony from that tent"

"He had no legal right to put his hands on Karmelo…Karmelo is in a public place"

"We ask you this incredibly tough task which is to follow the law"

"The government wants to make this case about Melo could have just left"

"You heard that a track event is a social event, it was completely common for kids to be milling about and go by and say hi, stop into the tent"

"We know that it was raining, i don't know why we had to have this argument about whether it was raining"

"We know how Texas weather is, so it's easy to think, boy i better get out of this rain"

He says a witness testified "we had no problem with him under the tent while it was raining"

"You have to put yourself in his (Karmelo's) shoes, so you start under that tent, you want to get out of the rain"

"Sure enough one of the people at Memorial says, yea, come on over"

"Then all of the sudden Hunter Metcalf, or Austin say who are you? You need to leave?"

"These guys are much bigger than you, do you turn your back and walk away and take a chance that these teenage boys with their raging hormones"

"Austin and Hunter had the right to tell Melo to leave but they did have the right to use deadly force to make him leave"

"Melo had an absolute right to defend himself against that"

"How do you know in a split second of chaos when it's too late"

"Because if you wait too late to defend yourself self defense is meaningless"

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Now they're claiming Austin's shove of Anthony constitutes "deadly force". They think the jury is stupid.

aggiehawg said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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I must have missed reading anywhere that Austin said if he didn't leave he was going to beat KA's ass. Was that from one of the couple of defense witnesses?

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Only thing I saw reported was the opposite that Austin said something to the effect that he wasn't going to get into a fight at a track meet.

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Report From Saturday

The witness [a 17-year old student from Memorial High School] recalled telling investigators that Anthony said to Metcalf: "Nobody has a problem with me being here, but you." He also told investigators last year in an interview that Metcalf said something to the effect of "I'll beat your ass" in a moderate tone.
The witness told jurors Metcalf went up one row during the argument, which was one row below Anthony.
He told jurors that Metcalf tapped Anthony on the shoulder while Anthony is seated with his hand in his backpack. The witness recalled Metcalf reaching out with both hands in a pushing motion.

A Net Full of Jello said:

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With closing arguments presented, what are your predictions?


Verdict: guilty of murder
Sentence: no more than 20 years

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He will get less than a white kid committing the same crime I would bet.+

More prosecution closing 

On whether manslaughter would apply in this case instead of murder

“If you think AM impaled himself on Karmelo Anthony’s knife, find him guilty of manslaughter”

On witnesses 

“They all said Karmelo Anthony provoked it”

Why self defense doesn’t apply…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 9, 2026

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More prosecution closing

On whether manslaughter would apply in this case instead of murder

"If you think AM impaled himself on Karmelo Anthony's knife, find him guilty of manslaughter"

On witnesses

"They all said Karmelo Anthony provoked it"

Why self defense doesn't apply

"You can meet deadly force with deadly force in Texas, but you can't meet force, a shove, with deadly force, a stab"

"Size differential, it doesn't work in this case, you don't get to kill someone just because they are bigger than you"

"Self defense has to be a reasonable belief, a reasonable belief means a belief that would held by an ordinary and prudent person in the same situation as the defendant"

"It has to be immediately necessary, where was the immediate necessity to plunge a knife into an unarmed, young man"

"It's not self defense folks, it's murder, murder, plain and simple"

"No one's standing up, no one's surrounding Karmelo Anthony"

"The Memorial kids hadn't turned on him, the video was so, so important, you can see with your own eyes, how normal that day was"

"At some point when he reached into the bag he opened it and had it ready to go"

"Did Austin Metcalf have defensive wounds, no. He never saw it coming"

"If this case was really about a young man trying to stay out of the rain, get under the bleachers"

On why he ran for an exit instead of a coach

"It's a guilty, guilty mindset"

"He touched me, he did this, he did that…what would he have said if he was really confronted by both of the twins, his words alone belie the fact that this was one on one, this was not a mob of Memorial kids"

Reciting a witness who testified about Karmelo's behavior

"He had it in his mind what he was going to do"

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Wonder who is paying for all the Karmelo Anthony signs?

https://www.youtube.com/live/SWjeJwf_JGc?si=UwLdRvrfZDYUJSF2

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Same folks who pay for the trucks to bring in bricks at BLM "peaceful protests"

Thinking.....what would have happened if he had just pulled the knife out and just showed it to everyone? Everyone scattered.

Not common at all.

Murder 30+ years and jury finds him guilty before 4 today.

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Thinking.....what would have happened if he had just pulled the knife out and just showed it to everyone? Everyone scattered.

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Yes.

Did the judge instruct to a self defense claim? Branca was arguing last night that the delay yesterday was likely the prosecution arguing that it shouldn't even be read since there's no evidence it can be applied here

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“You didn’t hear the words motive in the jury charge, but you can make reasonable deductions as to how that applies to intent”

“Karmelo has no motive other than he absolutely felt like he was in danger”

“The evidence is very clear these kids didn’t know each other”

“This case…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 9, 2026

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On the "touch me and find out comment from Karmelo

"That is the ultimate warning it is the ultimate backoff"

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No, it is escalating a confrontation, negating the claim of self defense.

Verdict watch

Final closing

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More prosecution closing

"I'm not going to fight you, Austin says multiple times,"

On the one witness who knew about Austin and Karmelo

"It wasn't a hard push it was a small shove"

"Karmelo Anthony was trying to prove that he could do a violent act, well he sure did folks, he sure did"

"All told you the exact same thing, it's not self defense, Austin didn't want to fight"

"It's a tragedy for everyone involved, and there's a lot of truth in that outside this courtroom."

"It's not a tragedy for Karmelo Anthony, it's a tragedy because of the decisions he made"

"It is senseless that AM lost his life on a Wednesday morning at a high school track meet"

"We don't take weapons to school events, but he did"

"Ultimately this case is about accountability, what kind of community do you want to live in?"
"You represent the community today, as unpleasant as it may be it's your duty to follow your oath and hold this young man accountable for this senseless, senseless murder."

"I beg you to make justice swift in this case."

Closing arguments over, judge is giving instructions to alternate jurors

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at least they get to cry in their cadillac escalade courtesy of tribalistic morons that donate to defend a murderer 🤣🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/hZ4MykzQQb

— Yisan (@00yisan) June 9, 2026

Pathetic, and not just as parents.

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"These guys are much bigger than you, do you turn your back and walk away and take a chance that these teenage boys with their raging hormones"

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96 times out of 100 in this scenario, yes. That's exactly what I do.

Of the other 4 times, three times I was drunk and bowed up due to liquid courage. Of those once I got thrown out of the place, once the dude walked away, and once I got my ass kicked with no boldily harm and no threat to my life whatsoever. The fourth I was sober but in front of a girl I was trying to impress and the result was ending up becoming buddies with the other side.

If the bar is prudent, Anthony falls way short of that. Not even close.

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Wonder who is paying for all the Karmelo Anthony signs?

https://www.youtube.com/live/SWjeJwf_JGc?si=UwLdRvrfZDYUJSF2

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Same folks who pay for the trucks to bring in bricks at BLM "peaceful protests"

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I doubt it was the protesters. All of the words were spelled correctly.

The jury left the courtroom at 10:50 a.m. to begin deliberations.

11 a.m.
Closing arguments ended.

10:30 a.m.
Prosecutor Bill Wirskye next delivered his closing arguments.

"Do not let them turn a threat into a warning," he urged jurors. "This is not some benign warning."

"This is ludicrous," Wirskye said. What matters isn't motive; it should be "mindset," he said.

Anthony "had a secret -- he had a knife that day. He was always gonna come out on top that day! That is a mindset."

"You dont get to meet a shove with a stab -- especially if you provoke a shove," Wirskye told jurors.

"This is unjustified, provoked, murder," he said, repeating a phrase he used in opening arguments last week.

"Why didn't he just walk away?" Wirskye asked, noting that no witnesses offered any answers to this question.

"You can meet a shove with a shove," the prosecutor said. "It has to be proportional." The stabbing was not proportional, he said.

"You don't get to kill someone just because they are bigger than you," Wirskye told jurors.

"Any ordinary, prudent, reasonable person would not have plunged a knife into the chest of Austin Metcalf, an unarmed young man," Wirskye said.

Wirskye took the replica knife and flicked it open. "It's still murder at the end of the day," he told jurors.

If Anthony wanted to get out of the rain, there were other tents.

Wirskye referred to Anthony's "secret knife" that he had in his backpack. He reminded jurors that some witness described Metcalf giving Anthony "light pushes," that a witness quoted Metcalf telling Anthony, "I'm not going to fight you, bro."

There are two jurors who are shaking their heads in agreement during Wirskye's closing argument.

"Austin didn't deserve it," he said. "It was murder."

He quoted witnesses who said Anthony said under that tent, "Make me move." "Touch me, see what happens."

Wirskye acknowledged there were discrepancies between some of the young witnesses' accounts. He said they're kids, they are simply mistaken.

"It's not self-defense. It's murder," he told jurors. "It is a tragedy for everyone involved."
"This was plain and simple murder," he said. "We don't take weapons to school events. With his mindset, (Anthony) did."

"What kind of county do you want to live in? What kind of society do you want to live in? Hold this young man accountable. And send a message that this won't be tolerated in our community."

9:45 a.m.
The prosecution waived its right to start off the closing arguments, so defense attorney Mike Howard went first.

Austin Metcalf had "no legal right to eject" Karmelo Anthony from the Memorial High School tent at the track meet on April 2, 2025, he said.

"He had no legal right to put his hands on 'Melo,'" Howard told jurors, referring to Anthony by his nickname. "He was in a public place."

Prosecutors contend Anthony "could have just left" when confronted by Metcalf, Howard said. "I am sure he wishes he did."

Howard referred to earlier testimony that track meets are social and open and that athletes can come and go. He said he disagrees with prosecutors that his client "slipped" into Memorial's tent. Rather, Anthony was invited in -- and "dapped up" -- by "a friend."

Howard told jurors that it was reasonable for Anthony to want to be under the tent when it began raining. Anthony's school had not brought a tent to the event.

"'Melo' was seated throughout this," Howard told jurors. "They had a right to tell him to leave, they didn't have a right to use force to eject him."

Howard said his client could have left but he was facing a group of "teenage boys with raging hormones" getting increasingly madder.

Anthony had the right to defend himself when "someone is so much bigger than you."

Howard told jurors that witnesses gave "jumbled" accounts of various aspects of the incident, including the range of intensity of the shove Metcalf gave Anthony, where people were sitting in the Memorial tent, and whether Anthony ran, walked or jogged after the stabbing.

He said Howard could have left the stadium afterwards, but he decided to walk back onto the field. "Everyone who saw 'Melo' said he was crying," Howard said, saying that his client was remorseful and genuinely distraught.

Howard recalled the testimony of a coach who told Anthony, "If that young man dies, your life will change." Anthony responded, "He's not going to die." Howard said this speaks to Anthony's intent.

Howard conceded Anthony bringing a multitool folding knife to the school track meet was "a violation of policy."

"The thing about self defense, you cannot wait until it is too late," Howard said. "The thing about a split second of chaos ... you don't know what's going to happen."

Howard told jurors they "must put yourself in his shoes." He said that it did not make sense for Anthony to pick a fight with someone "so much bigger than him" and a twin "so much bigger than him" and twenty other guys.

"It's not about race," Howard said. "There's no evidence that 'Melo' did anything but think he was defending himself in that split second of chaos."

"Maybe he mouthed off because you're a 17-year-old dumb kid," Howard said of his client. When Anthony said, "don't touch me and find out... That is the ultimate warning, not provocation."

"I don't think we're going to ever know what happened under that tent," Howard said. "We've got 15 different stories."

"You don't ask the decedent's friends (witnesses) about self defense and provocation," Howard said. He reminded jurors it's now their job to use the law to find Anthony not guilty.

You don't get to act like an ******* and create a situation that requires you to use deadly force to get yourself out of the situation.

This is the actual law in Texas. The defense has no way around this.

If this guy gets off then we are all hosed and the precedent is terrible.

Backyard Gator said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Closing arguments are 35 minutes each.
Prosecutor Bill Wirskye waived right to open so lead defense attorney Mike Howard is starting 

“Austin Metcalf had no legal right to use force to eject Karmelo Anthony from that tent”

“He had no legal right to put his hands on…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 9, 2026

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"Austin Metcalf had no legal right to use force to eject Karmelo Anthony from that tent"

"He had no legal right to put his hands on Karmelo…Karmelo is in a public place"

"We ask you this incredibly tough task which is to follow the law"

"The government wants to make this case about Melo could have just left"

"You heard that a track event is a social event, it was completely common for kids to be milling about and go by and say hi, stop into the tent"

"We know that it was raining, i don't know why we had to have this argument about whether it was raining"

"We know how Texas weather is, so it's easy to think, boy i better get out of this rain"

He says a witness testified "we had no problem with him under the tent while it was raining"

"You have to put yourself in his (Karmelo's) shoes, so you start under that tent, you want to get out of the rain"

"Sure enough one of the people at Memorial says, yea, come on over"

"Then all of the sudden Hunter Metcalf, or Austin say who are you? You need to leave?"

"These guys are much bigger than you, do you turn your back and walk away and take a chance that these teenage boys with their raging hormones"

"Austin and Hunter had the right to tell Melo to leave but they did have the right to use deadly force to make him leave"

"Melo had an absolute right to defend himself against that"

"How do you know in a split second of chaos when it's too late"

"Because if you wait too late to defend yourself self defense is meaningless"

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Now they're claiming Austin's shove of Anthony constitutes "deadly force". They think the jury is stupid.

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You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

How nerve wracking to be a Frisco resident, knowing the fate of your town's future could rest in the mind of a lone liberal suburban mom that could hang the jury.

Verdict before lunch?

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Verdict before lunch?

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nah. The jury will at least stay through lunch to get a free meal.

For the prosecutors here, I have an interesting question:

If I am on the jury, and me all the others save one are ready to convict on murder, but we have one single holdout who is adamant that they will support no more than manslaughter; and, nothing that is said will move them from that position...

Would you prefer the jury settle on the manslaughter charge, or would you prefer the jury to hang and try the case again?

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11 a.m.
Closing arguments ended.

10:30 a.m.
Prosecutor Bill Wirskye next delivered his closing arguments.

"Do not let them turn a threat into a warning," he urged jurors. "This is not some benign warning."

"This is ludicrous," Wirskye said. What matters isn't motive; it should be "mindset," he said.

Anthony "had a secret -- he had a knife that day. He was always gonna come out on top that day! That is a mindset."

"You dont get to meet a shove with a stab -- especially if you provoke a shove," Wirskye told jurors.

"This is unjustified, provoked, murder," he said, repeating a phrase he used in opening arguments last week.

"Why didn't he just walk away?" Wirskye asked, noting that no witnesses offered any answers to this question.

"You can meet a shove with a shove," the prosecutor said. "It has to be proportional." The stabbing was not proportional, he said.

"You don't get to kill someone just because they are bigger than you," Wirskye told jurors.

"Any ordinary, prudent, reasonable person would not have plunged a knife into the chest of Austin Metcalf, an unarmed young man," Wirskye said.

Wirskye took the replica knife and flicked it open. "It's still murder at the end of the day," he told jurors.

If Anthony wanted to get out of the rain, there were other tents.

Wirskye referred to Anthony's "secret knife" that he had in his backpack. He reminded jurors that some witness described Metcalf giving Anthony "light pushes," that a witness quoted Metcalf telling Anthony, "I'm not going to fight you, bro."

There are two jurors who are shaking their heads in agreement during Wirskye's closing argument.

"Austin didn't deserve it," he said. "It was murder."

He quoted witnesses who said Anthony said under that tent, "Make me move." "Touch me, see what happens."

Self defense argument negated right here according to Texas law.

Wirskye acknowledged there were discrepancies between some of the young witnesses' accounts. He said they're kids, they are simply mistaken.

"It's not self-defense. It's murder," he told jurors. "It is a tragedy for everyone involved."
"This was plain and simple murder," he said. "We don't take weapons to school events. With his mindset, (Anthony) did."

"What kind of county do you want to live in? What kind of society do you want to live in? Hold this young man accountable. And send a message that this won't be tolerated in our community."

9:45 a.m.
The prosecution waived its right to start off the closing arguments, so defense attorney Mike Howard went first.

Austin Metcalf had "no legal right to eject" Karmelo Anthony from the Memorial High School tent at the track meet on April 2, 2025, he said.

"He had no legal right to put his hands on 'Melo,'" Howard told jurors, referring to Anthony by his nickname. "He was in a public place."

Prosecutors contend Anthony "could have just left" when confronted by Metcalf, Howard said. "I am sure he wishes he did."

Howard referred to earlier testimony that track meets are social and open and that athletes can come and go. He said he disagrees with prosecutors that his client "slipped" into Memorial's tent. Rather, Anthony was invited in -- and "dapped up" -- by "a friend."

Howard told jurors that it was reasonable for Anthony to want to be under the tent when it began raining. Anthony's school had not brought a tent to the event.

"'Melo' was seated throughout this," Howard told jurors. "They had a right to tell him to leave, they didn't have a right to use force to eject him."

Howard said his client could have left but he was facing a group of "teenage boys with raging hormones" getting increasingly madder.

Anthony had the right to defend himself when "someone is so much bigger than you."

Proportionally, yes. That's not what Anthony did though.

Howard told jurors that witnesses gave "jumbled" accounts of various aspects of the incident, including the range of intensity of the shove Metcalf gave Anthony, where people were sitting in the Memorial tent, and whether Anthony ran, walked or jogged after the stabbing.

He said Howard could have left the stadium afterwards, but he decided to walk back onto the field. "Everyone who saw 'Melo' said he was crying," Howard said, saying that his client was remorseful and genuinely distraught.

So the f*** what? That's not an excuse.

Howard recalled the testimony of a coach who told Anthony, "If that young man dies, your life will change." Anthony responded, "He's not going to die." Howard said this speaks to Anthony's intent.

Anthony's intent was to stab someone.

Howard conceded Anthony bringing a multitool folding knife to the school track meet was "a violation of policy."

WGAS about policy? It's what he did with the knife that matters.

"The thing about self defense, you cannot wait until it is too late," Howard said. "The thing about a split second of chaos ... you don't know what's going to happen."

Pretty sure you do when you intentionally escalate a confrontation.

Howard told jurors they "must put yourself in his shoes." He said that it did not make sense for Anthony to pick a fight with someone "so much bigger than him" and a twin "so much bigger than him" and twenty other guys.

Perhaps. If you didn't have a knife in your pack that you intentionally brought with you.

"It's not about race," Howard said. "There's no evidence that 'Melo' did anything but think he was defending himself in that split second of chaos."

"Touch me and see what happens."

"Maybe he mouthed off because you're a 17-year-old dumb kid," Howard said of his client. When Anthony said, "don't touch me and find out... That is the ultimate warning, not provocation."

No, it's escalation.

"I don't think we're going to ever know what happened under that tent," Howard said. "We've got 15 different stories."

All we need to know is that Anthony stabbed an unarmed teenager after provoking a confrontation.

"You don't ask the decedent's friends (witnesses) about self defense and provocation," Howard said. He reminded jurors it's now their job to use the law to find Anthony not guilty.

He was asked to leave and refused. Then he stabbed an unarmed teenager. Texas law does not support a verdict of "not guilty" in this instance.

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