Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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Enrico Pallazzo
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If you are black and live in Collin County, you either have to be a teacher or have to raise a stab-happy kid.
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OldArmy71 said:


I agree with you. It does not in any way excuse this horrible, senseless murder, but I do believe it partially explains what was going on with KA.

As someone who grew up in the segregated/Jim Crow South, I have brooded on this issue for many, many years.

White people, including me, like to think to ourselves that black people no longer have any grounds for racial grievance. Segregation and Jim Crow are illegal and long in the past.

The problem is that millions of black people live with relatives--grandparents, for instance--or know people in the community who are my age (77) and who grew up in the same segregated world I grew up in.

The world of segregation is a living memory for those folks, and they pass those memories--and fears and resentments and angers--on to their children and grandchildren.

Many black people are able to go on with their lives and not be trapped in that past, but there are millions for whom that past is vividly real and can control their lives if they let it.

I grow more despairing that our society is just stuck in the past with not much of a way forward.


Strongly disagree. You make it sound like the anger and resentment of today's black miscreants were formed from gathering around Meemaw & Pops and hearing stories of jim Crow laws, segregated schools, and other injustices inflicted upon prior generations of blacks.

But the reality is that the vast majority of current members of this violent, valueless subset of blacks don't know of, or at least couldn't provide a coherent thought on, Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, or John Lewis. Instead, today's current civil rights icons are upstanding citizens like George Floyd, gentle giant Michael Brown, Jacob Blake, and KA.

"The Community" has nothing but themselves to blame for their current problems, brought on principally by the self-destruction of their family unit and perpetual victim mentality, albeit enabled, encouraged, and excused by the race hustlers, politicians & media who all profit from their misery.
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so reinforcing what we all knew. they're racist
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agent-maroon said:

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So weird - she looks like she's about 40. How could she possible be a grandmother?

I met a 30 yo grandmother once. She had her daughter at age 15 and her daughter had the granddaughter at age 15. Recollect thinking that she might be a great-grandmother and still be younger than I was at the time.

I also met a 16 yo who had an emergency C-section for her 4th child. Not just 4th pregnancy, but her 4th baby before she could have driven herself to the OB appointments.

There are some crazy things out there. A good friend of mine and I were partying with a couple of girls right after high school. The next day we took them to where this lady was babysitting their kids then took them to their house. The one he was with goes inside, comes out with three kids, all hers, and she was 18 or 19 years old.
Enrico Pallazzo
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Yeah, evil whitey is an old copout. They have a lousy parent problem and a strong propensity to celebrate violence problem. Whitey is just an excuse to do bad things and be a loser.
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BMX Bandit said:

Those are not the jurors prosecution struck.

The three peremptory strikes used on black jury panel members were not the ones that said they couldn't be impartial.

They were as a matter of law struck by the court for cause. The prosecution didn't have to use their strikes on them.

That's how it works. Nothing in what you quoted refutes that.

OK.
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I'll say it again.

If Austin were my son I'd beg the judge to release him.
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This counts as an 'intellectual' in their 'community', a race-baiting professor at Howard and Morgan State.

https://drstaceypatton1865.substack.com/p/dear-jeff-metcalf-your-son-is-dead

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Dear Jeff Metcalf: Your Son Is Dead Because You Failed to Teach Him That Black Boys Have Boundaries



2356 words of victim blaming, ending with a taunt at the father. What trash.

Somehow, if you shove a black person, that justifies them stabbing you to death. This is a college professor fomenting this 'disrespect' culture.
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In the 2020s, whitey's main role is being the one to keep food on a lot of their tables and to provide a great deal of opportunity to many in their community - be it providing scholarships, jobs, and serving as teachers.
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Backyard Gator said:


This counts as an 'intellectual' in their 'community', a race-baiting professor at Howard and Morgan State.

https://drstaceypatton1865.substack.com/p/dear-jeff-metcalf-your-son-is-dead

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Dear Jeff Metcalf: Your Son Is Dead Because You Failed to Teach Him That Black Boys Have Boundaries



2356 words of victim blaming, ending with a taunt at the father. What trash.

Somehow, if you shove a black person, that justifies them stabbing you to death. This is a college professor fomenting this 'disrespect' culture.

She's really trying to win the hearts and minds:


This is what "the community" and "community activists" think about when a black teenager murders another white teenager, in cold blood. There's a Scott Adams meme in here somewhere...she's more worried about the memes, and completely ignoring the fact that she is defending a convicted murderer. Oh, the horror.
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These people are unhinged
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Backyard Gator said:



These people are unhinged


Delusional losers
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Meanwhile, in Tarrant Count, a Lego thief gets 45 years...

https://www.fox4news.com/news/tarrant-county-lego-thief-given-lengthy-prison-sentence

ETA: I guess I should put some context around this. Legos are these little plastic things. Yes, he stole a whole lot of them. But stealing little plastic things vs murder.

Yeah. 35. KA is lucky.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Backyard Gator said:


This counts as an 'intellectual' in their 'community', a race-baiting professor at Howard and Morgan State.

https://drstaceypatton1865.substack.com/p/dear-jeff-metcalf-your-son-is-dead

Quote:

Dear Jeff Metcalf: Your Son Is Dead Because You Failed to Teach Him That Black Boys Have Boundaries



2356 words of victim blaming, ending with a taunt at the father. What trash.

Somehow, if you shove a black person, that justifies them stabbing you to death. This is a college professor fomenting this 'disrespect' culture.

She's really trying to win the hearts and minds:


This is what "the community" and "community activists" think about when a black teenager murders another white teenager, in cold blood. There's a Scott Adams meme in here somewhere...she's more worried about the memes, than defending a convicted murderer. Oh, the horror.


Subhuman trash. They made a choice to be something less than human and are too f'n stupid to understand that if they want a race war, they don't have the numbers to do anything other than get themselves eradicated.

I will never understand how you can stoop to being such a miserable piece of **** just because an idiot youth bought into your "culture", got held accountable for his actions and received a lighter punishment than he deserved. "People" (I'm using this term really loosely) like her and that professor deserve a far worse fate than any misery that befalls KA during his incarceration.

This has nothing to do with being a black person. This is willful choice of individuals choosing to be less than a person and they richly deserve to be as miserable as they are. Disgusting.
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BMX Bandit said:

91AggieLawyer said:

aggiehawg said:



There they go again.


I would love to see the supporting affidavit. DA should ask for a hearing on it.


What assets do you think he's hidingv


I don't know, which is why I want to see the supporting evidence. I'd also like to see an accounting of any fund-raised money, where it went, and what amounts were spent on attorneys fees. However, it may take a civil case to come up with all that.

I think the legislature needs to take the issue of crowdfunding and indigence up in the next session. Maybe nothing more than reporting requirements. No one can tell me that putting up a GFM/GSG that raises ANY money followed by a request for appointed counsel isn't abusive, or at least, ripe for abuse.
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Got a Natty! said:

aggiehawg said:

Got a Natty! said:

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Anthony also filed a pauper oath appointment of attorney on appeal, a document that declares indigency, waives fees, and requests legal representation. It's unclear whether Anthony would be represented by the same defense team as in his first trial or if a new team would be assigned.

I guess they really did blow the gofundme money.

Still unclear to me if his trial defense counsel were PDs or privately hired.

That aside larger jurisdictions have separate resources (either inside or pro bno outside with case by case rates) for appellate work. Being a trial attorney and being an appellate attorney require different skill sets.

Trial attorneys were retained.

Like I have said many times before, the reporting has been all over the place on that. Hence, "still unclear to me." Someone filed that in pauperis form for him as he sits in county lock up.

A lawyer friend of mine is working with Toby Shook on a case in the Austin area. I asked my friend the other day if Toby was appointed or retained. So that's where I got my info.


According to the Collin County "Fair Defense Plan" (essentially an indigence guide)

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An attorney appointed to represent a client shall neither solicit nor accept remuneration from the client on the appointed case(s} unless the presiding judge determines that there has been a change in financial status and approves such payment. If the client is charged with a new offense or is in need of other legal services during the pendency of an attorney's appointment, the attorney shall not accept remuneration for representation in those matters without notice to, and approval by, the presiding judge.

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After the Karmelo Anthony verdict, some Black families are reconsidering life in predominantly white communties


According to the article, Frisco is 55% non-white, making it minority-majority city, where whites are the minority. Somehow, that is still 'predominantly white' according to these people.

Then there is this gem:

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"Representation is not cosmetic, it's developmental," said Bizor, adding that the concept of seeking out a more pro-Black environment should not be met with the same criticism as a community that wishes to exclude people. "It's not about segregation, it's about self-determination."

So if blacks want to be in black neighborhoods, that is 'self-determination', but when whites want to be in white neighborhoods, that is segregation? Okay. /s
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Backyard Gator said:


After the Karmelo Anthony verdict, some Black families are reconsidering life in predominantly white communties


According to the article, Frisco is 55% non-white, making it minority-majority city, where whites are the minority. Somehow, that is still 'predominantly white' according to these people.

Then there is this gem:

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"Representation is not cosmetic, it's developmental," said Bizor, adding that the concept of seeking out a more pro-Black environment should not be met with the same criticism as a community that wishes to exclude people. "It's not about segregation, it's about self-determination."

So if blacks want to be in black neighborhoods, that is 'self-determination', but when whites want to be in white neighborhoods, that is segregation? Okay. /s


One of the most fascinating parts of living in the DFW suburbs is that you learn affluent minority families take far more issue with this stuff than white families.

In my experience, native west African and Indian families especially have a far bigger problem with black Americans than whites do. And as a side, the best behaved children I consistently meet are the kids of our Nigerian neighbors/friends in our neighborhood. It really illustrates how this is a cultural dynamic and not a racial one.
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There is also a class/economics side to that. 'Ghetto culture' is poor culture, and if you're affluent, you don't want your kids emulating poverty culture.



Here is Thomas Sowell's take on the origins of black ghetto culture. I've pointed this out on this forum before, but people were hostile to this viewpoint.
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I think there's a lot of truth to that. I will say that the statistics show that even corrected for income/poverty, black Americans still outpace every other group including first and second generation African immigrants in every negative social/crime statistic there is. So there is something in addition to poverty playing into this.

Probably the most shocking crime statistics in existence are that you are much more likely to be murdered by an affluent black man than a poor white man, and black women commit several types of violent crime at nearly the same rate as white men.
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Sowell was right.

This was a paid for bulletin that was published in 1919 to the newly immigrated southern black Ameicans to the North, by northern black Americans who were tired of their poor behavior that they learned from the poor scotch/irish southern whites.
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How it could be without the government and media.

https://instagr.am/p/DVhTo-CgT26
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If you want to see full blown propaganda in action look up in any coverage of this from leftwing outlets.

This is, by far, the most open and shut "controversial" cases in decades and they are still blatantly lying to their audience that its somehow an injustice.

The left gets spoonfed bald faced lies by their media sources and uncritically gobbles it up.
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every time I see this on the news I think of the NBA player
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It is interesting to see the division being created because somebody did something horrible and supporters of that murderer only making things worse.

I don't know how the Metcalfs have been able to keep it together while showing their displeasure in a respectful yet incensed manner
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falconace said:

fc2112 said:

will25u said:



So weird - she looks like she's about 40. How could she possible be a grandmother?


Black don't crack



I used to work with a white lady who was a grandmother at the ripe old age of 30. I used to joke that if the pattern continued, she could be a great-great-great grandmother by the age of 85.
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Enrico Pallazzo said:

Yep, they struck teachers because teachers over-index to being bleeding heart morons.

I would not go that far. BUT, I historically struck all teachers unless I knew them personally. And most of them I did know personally. There were two coaches I knew very well. One grew up in small town Oklahoma and the other in Quitequa (sp?). Both of these guys are true blue rednecks. Wish they could have been professional jurors.

The Quitequa guy ended his career as Deputy Superintendant in Frisco. He retired less then 5 years ago.So I called him last night. Still a redneck.

So don't paint all teachers with the same brush. But make sure your brush is a fairly broad brush.
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I sincerely hope Hunter Metcalf is going to therapy. This kid experienced something that he should have never had to, and few can mentally handle at such a young age. He is a powder keg very close to an open flame, and I completely understand why.

Would hate for him and his family to experience another tragedy.
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TheRatt87 said:

OldArmy71 said:


I agree with you. It does not in any way excuse this horrible, senseless murder, but I do believe it partially explains what was going on with KA.

As someone who grew up in the segregated/Jim Crow South, I have brooded on this issue for many, many years.

White people, including me, like to think to ourselves that black people no longer have any grounds for racial grievance. Segregation and Jim Crow are illegal and long in the past.

The problem is that millions of black people live with relatives--grandparents, for instance--or know people in the community who are my age (77) and who grew up in the same segregated world I grew up in.

The world of segregation is a living memory for those folks, and they pass those memories--and fears and resentments and angers--on to their children and grandchildren.

Many black people are able to go on with their lives and not be trapped in that past, but there are millions for whom that past is vividly real and can control their lives if they let it.

I grow more despairing that our society is just stuck in the past with not much of a way forward.


Strongly disagree. You make it sound like the anger and resentment of today's black miscreants were formed from gathering around Meemaw & Pops and hearing stories of jim Crow laws, segregated schools, and other injustices inflicted upon prior generations of blacks.

But the reality is that the vast majority of current members of this violent, valueless subset of blacks don't know of, or at least couldn't provide a coherent thought on, Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, or John Lewis. Instead, today's current civil rights icons are upstanding citizens like George Floyd, gentle giant Michael Brown, Jacob Blake, and KA.

"The Community" has nothing but themselves to blame for their current problems, brought on principally by the self-destruction of their family unit and perpetual victim mentality, albeit enabled, encouraged, and excused by the race hustlers, politicians & media who all profit from their misery.

very well stated.
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https://collintx.mugshots.zone/winston-jerome-parker-mugshot-06-09-2026

SIAP. Wasn't this one of the guys screaming in the face of elderly Austin Metcalf supporters?
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Got a Natty! said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

Yep, they struck teachers because teachers over-index to being bleeding heart morons.

I would not go that far. BUT, I historically struck all teachers unless I knew them personally. And most of them I did know personally. There were two coaches I knew very well. One grew up in small town Oklahoma and the other in Quitequa (sp?). Both of these guys are true blue rednecks. Wish they could have been professional jurors.

The Quitequa guy ended his career as Deputy Superintendant in Frisco. He retired less then 5 years ago.So I called him last night. Still a redneck.

So don't paint all teachers with the same brush. But make sure your brush is a fairly broad brush.


I didn't. "Over-index" means more than their share, not all of them.
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Is anyone googling "Quitequa" to see where the heck it is?

You have to be a redneck to be from there.
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one safe place said:

agent-maroon said:

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So weird - she looks like she's about 40. How could she possible be a grandmother?

I met a 30 yo grandmother once. She had her daughter at age 15 and her daughter had the granddaughter at age 15. Recollect thinking that she might be a great-grandmother and still be younger than I was at the time.

I also met a 16 yo who had an emergency C-section for her 4th child. Not just 4th pregnancy, but her 4th baby before she could have driven herself to the OB appointments.

There are some crazy things out there. A good friend of mine and I were partying with a couple of girls right after high school. The next day we took them to where this lady was babysitting their kids then took them to their house. The one he was with goes inside, comes out with three kids, all hers, and she was 18 or 19 years old.

My high school had a nursery in it for the kids of students. I graduated in 2000 and several of my classmates are grandparents now because they either had kids in HS or popped one out by 19 in the trailer nextdoor to their parents, and the cycle just repeats.

And, I kid you not, a girl I walked across the stage with for graduation had a 31 year old mom. I don't know the circumstances on how you have a kid at 12 or 13 because I never asked.
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