TX Legislature will ban THC stores before they leave says Lt Gov Patrick

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nortex97
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I agree on all points, unfortunately.
AgsMyDude
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Guess I'll send my $$ to Oregon and stock up on a year's supply
backintexas2013
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I am hearing it's 50/50. There is a strong push by real estate investors to ban it. These shops are keeping some strip centers alive. Also he wants the seltzers to remain legal and this doesn't allow it.
sanangelo
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BrazosDog02 said:

rsf0626 said:

Why tf does the law need be made stricter? Products like D8 that are highly regulated are infinitely safer than the illegal crap thats coming over the border.

For the party of freedom they certainly do love telling people how to live their lives


Because it's Dan Patrick and a bunch of Bible thumpers that want you to be regulated for no good reason. They want it so bad they are killing jobs and tax revenues to make it so.

Oh well, this heavy right wing Republican will be voting for "anyone except big government republicans" from now on in this state.

Time for the old folks to die off.

It's not only the Bible Thumpers. It's Standard Sales and Glazer's and all the rest of the beer distributors who do not want to lose shelf space to THC stuff.

Lt Dan has a point about these THC vape things being potent and there is a societal cost. In particular, that our county jails in rural Texas have 25% of its population suffering some level of mental health problem costing one heck of a lotta money in pharma and medical treatment. It's probably the Devil's Lettuce that drove them mad but the potheads will argue that the Devil's Lettuce is some kind of wonderful magic healing organic superfood.
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Regulation solves a lot of that and still provides a tax revenue for something that will be used regardless.
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Quote:


Bible Thumpers are self-righteous, low IQ, hateful morons that hide behind the blatant misreading of the Bible to defend their nonsensical world view.


Thankfully, there's less and less of these folks with each passing day.
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"It's probably the Devils Lettuce that drove them mad"…are you are the reverend from Footloose?
That is the kind of stuff that is on the signs the nut jobs hold up on campus.
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sanangelo said:

BrazosDog02 said:

rsf0626 said:

Why tf does the law need be made stricter? Products like D8 that are highly regulated are infinitely safer than the illegal crap thats coming over the border.

For the party of freedom they certainly do love telling people how to live their lives


Because it's Dan Patrick and a bunch of Bible thumpers that want you to be regulated for no good reason. They want it so bad they are killing jobs and tax revenues to make it so.

Oh well, this heavy right wing Republican will be voting for "anyone except big government republicans" from now on in this state.

Time for the old folks to die off.

It's not only the Bible Thumpers. It's Standard Sales and Glazer's and all the rest of the beer distributors who do not want to lose shelf space to THC stuff.

Lt Dan has a point about these THC vape things being potent and there is a societal cost. In particular, that our county jails in rural Texas have 25% of its population suffering some level of mental health problem costing one heck of a lotta money in pharma and medical treatment. It's probably the Devil's Lettuce that drove them mad but the potheads will argue that the Devil's Lettuce is some kind of wonderful magic healing organic superfood.


There are far more folks with criminal issues, health issues, and mental health issues due to alcohol abuse and addiction. And whether you want to accept it or not, THC does have legitimate therapeutic uses. Unlike alcohol. However, just like alcohol, the key is moderation and avoidance of overuse and abuse. But nobody is raising hell over the myriad ills society suffers on account of alcohol. Wonder why that is?
Faustus
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It seems like an easy call for him politically. Conservatives who are against a ban aren't going to bail, and servicing the majority of his base on an unimportant social issue seems like a slam dunk.

He should see if he can get a piece of the South African president too while plucking low hanging fruit.
Burnsey
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Potheads are mad. Oh well. They'll get over it.
Wyoming Aggie
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Burnsey said:

Potheads are mad. Oh well. They'll get over it.


Even if you don't like THC, the nonsensical anti-freedom, industry-destroying government overreach should concern everybody.
Faustus
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Libs' oxes have been getting gored in Texas for decades. I hardly think another beat down changes anything even if there's a little overlap in interests with libertarian and younger elements of the predominant power.

The strong stance against drugs has always been a proven winner from the right.

Still it's fun to see the folks here aren't monolithic on the topic. Too much education no doubt.

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Wyoming Aggie said:

Burnsey said:

Potheads are mad. Oh well. They'll get over it.


Even if you don't like THC, the nonsensical anti-freedom, industry-destroying government overreach should concern everybody.
Yep

Never smoked/ingested any illicit drugs, nor have I ever drank the Devil's Tears (or whatever gayass name one wants to label alcohol), but I don't like a bunch of busybody bull**** and govt overreach.
BenFiasco14
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Was at a dinner earlier and a friends dad (60s brought this up). Proudly told us he's never ever had a whiff of marijuana or ever tried the stuff.

Homie had 4 miller lites with dinner, threw in a pinch of Copenhagen after, then drove up to Oklahoma to spend the weekend at Choctaw.

But thank goodness he's never polluted his temple with weed. Lol. Wonder if my friends dad posts on here? He's an Aggie.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Burnsey said:

Potheads are mad. Oh well. They'll get over it.


Potheads are gonna be potheads regardless, just like bad people will get guns even if you ban them.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Faustus
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BigRobSA said:

Wyoming Aggie said:

Burnsey said:

Potheads are mad. Oh well. They'll get over it.


Even if you don't like THC, the nonsensical anti-freedom, industry-destroying government overreach should concern everybody.
Yep

Never smoked/ingested any illicit drugs, nor have I ever drank the Devil's Tears (or whatever gayass name one wants to label alcohol), but I don't like a bunch of busybody bull**** and govt overreach.


I probably wouldn't have either if they would have called the alcohol "Devil's Tears." Hopefully they don't change the illicit drugs moniker.
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IMHO, THC is not the big problem. THC mixed with alcohol is the big problem. But don't drive behind any of it. There's a lot more meanness in a drunk (especially an elevated drunk) than in someone solitarily stoned. Don't ask me how I know.
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Bunk Moreland
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jickyjack1 said:

IMHO, THC is not the big problem. alcohol is the big problem.


FIFY.
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Esteban du Plantier said:




Banning this would be just stupid.
Pretty smart if you are a politician and want big pharma money. That's all it is, a money grab.
sanangelo
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cslifer said:

"It's probably the Devils Lettuce that drove them mad"…are you are the reverend from Footloose?
That is the kind of stuff that is on the signs the nut jobs hold up on campus.
Ah, we have found a "marijuana is healthy for all" ideologue. I am completely unconvinced that marijuana has any health benefits and a skeptic that marijuana is harmless. I am especially a skeptic that high THC content in vapes is healthy. I point to 25% of rural county jails full of nut jobs as exhibit 1 against the 'marijuana is healthy' crowd.

Alex Berenson wrote a book concerning my skepticism. "Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence". The Amazon description of the book:

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Almost no one is in prison for marijuana;
A tiny fraction of doctors write most authorizations for medical marijuana, mostly for people who have already used;
Marijuana use is linked to opiate and cocaine use. Since 2008, the US and Canada have seen soaring marijuana use and an opiate epidemic. Britain has falling marijuana use and no epidemic;
Most of all, THCthe chemical in marijuana responsible for the drug's highcan cause psychotic episodes. After decades of studies, scientists no longer seriously debate if marijuana causes psychosis.

Psychosis brings violence, and cannabis-linked violence is spreading. In the four states that first legalized, murders have risen 25 percent since legalization, even more than the recent national increase. In Uruguay, which allowed retail sales in July 2017, murders have soared this year.

Berenson's reporting ranges from the London institute that is home to the scientists who helped prove the cannabis-psychosis link to the Colorado prison where a man now serves a thirty-year sentence after eating a THC-laced candy bar and killing his wife. He sticks to the facts, and they are devastating.

Link to the book so you can read it if you're wanting an honest debate.
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TyHolden
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This would destroy the Bryan College Station economy…
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sanangelo said:

cslifer said:

"It's probably the Devils Lettuce that drove them mad"…are you are the reverend from Footloose?
That is the kind of stuff that is on the signs the nut jobs hold up on campus.
Ah, we have found a "marijuana is healthy for all" ideologue. I am completely unconvinced that marijuana has any health benefits and a skeptic that marijuana is harmless. I am especially a skeptic that high THC content in vapes is healthy. I point to 25% of rural county jails full of nut jobs as exhibit 1 against the 'marijuana is healthy' crowd.

Alex Berenson wrote a book concerning my skepticism. "Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence". The Amazon description of the book:

Quote:

Almost no one is in prison for marijuana;
A tiny fraction of doctors write most authorizations for medical marijuana, mostly for people who have already used;
Marijuana use is linked to opiate and cocaine use. Since 2008, the US and Canada have seen soaring marijuana use and an opiate epidemic. Britain has falling marijuana use and no epidemic;
Most of all, THCthe chemical in marijuana responsible for the drug's highcan cause psychotic episodes. After decades of studies, scientists no longer seriously debate if marijuana causes psychosis.

Psychosis brings violence, and cannabis-linked violence is spreading. In the four states that first legalized, murders have risen 25 percent since legalization, even more than the recent national increase. In Uruguay, which allowed retail sales in July 2017, murders have soared this year.

Berenson's reporting ranges from the London institute that is home to the scientists who helped prove the cannabis-psychosis link to the Colorado prison where a man now serves a thirty-year sentence after eating a THC-laced candy bar and killing his wife. He sticks to the facts, and they are devastating.

Link to the book so you can read it if you're wanting an honest debate.



You can remain a skeptic all you want by reading literature to confirm your bias. Marijuana unequivocally DOES provide at least some medical benefit to people. This fact isn't up for debate. There isn't a single medical professional I have met that says otherwise including every psychiatrist I've ever worked with.

Tying marijuana to violence based on very loosely connected anecdotal data points doesn't prove anything. I will give you the fact that marijuana does attract people with histories of mental illness and people prone to commit violence. But there is next to no demonstrable proof that marijuana CAUSES violence.

But you are entitled to your opinion. And I hope you're equally as passionate about banning alcohol and tobacco as those are infinitely worse than THC and kill millions of people a year. Not to mention alcohol definitely has been shown to lead to violence yet is legal in every US state.
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To H with all of it........get rid of all laws and make everything in Texas legal......dope, booze, child abuse, assault, theft, robbery, murder, arson, speeding, gambling, rape....if I want to snort a half dozen lines of coke, drink a bottle of Jack, slap the kids around, beat the wife, steal my neighbors car and his wallet, shoot him in head, burn his house down, drive 95 mph to a casino in downtown Fredericksburg, lose a butload of money and have my will with that fat ugly waitress, by got I oughta be able to. This is Texas damit......Laws are for pansies .......
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Wyoming Aggie said:

sanangelo said:

cslifer said:

"It's probably the Devils Lettuce that drove them mad"…are you are the reverend from Footloose?
That is the kind of stuff that is on the signs the nut jobs hold up on campus.
Ah, we have found a "marijuana is healthy for all" ideologue. I am completely unconvinced that marijuana has any health benefits and a skeptic that marijuana is harmless. I am especially a skeptic that high THC content in vapes is healthy. I point to 25% of rural county jails full of nut jobs as exhibit 1 against the 'marijuana is healthy' crowd.

Alex Berenson wrote a book concerning my skepticism. "Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence". The Amazon description of the book:

Quote:

Almost no one is in prison for marijuana;
A tiny fraction of doctors write most authorizations for medical marijuana, mostly for people who have already used;
Marijuana use is linked to opiate and cocaine use. Since 2008, the US and Canada have seen soaring marijuana use and an opiate epidemic. Britain has falling marijuana use and no epidemic;
Most of all, THCthe chemical in marijuana responsible for the drug's highcan cause psychotic episodes. After decades of studies, scientists no longer seriously debate if marijuana causes psychosis.

Psychosis brings violence, and cannabis-linked violence is spreading. In the four states that first legalized, murders have risen 25 percent since legalization, even more than the recent national increase. In Uruguay, which allowed retail sales in July 2017, murders have soared this year.

Berenson's reporting ranges from the London institute that is home to the scientists who helped prove the cannabis-psychosis link to the Colorado prison where a man now serves a thirty-year sentence after eating a THC-laced candy bar and killing his wife. He sticks to the facts, and they are devastating.

Link to the book so you can read it if you're wanting an honest debate.



You can remain a skeptic all you want by reading literature to confirm your bias. Marijuana unequivocally DOES provide at least some medical benefit to people. This fact isn't up for debate. There isn't a single medical professional I have met that says otherwise including every psychiatrist I've ever worked with.

Tying marijuana to violence based on very loosely connected anecdotal data points doesn't prove anything. I will give you the fact that marijuana does attract people with histories of mental illness and people prone to commit violence. But there is next to no demonstrable proof that marijuana CAUSES violence.

But you are entitled to your opinion. And I hope you're equally as passionate about banning alcohol and tobacco as those are infinitely worse than THC and kill millions of people a year. Not to mention alcohol definitely has been shown to lead to violence yet is legal in every US state.
You can remain a supporter all you want by reading literature to confirm your bias.......
Bunk Moreland
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Sir, it's way too early in the morning to be huffing glue.
backintexas2013
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You really have no clue what you are talking about. This is two teas level of terrible posting.
Buford T. Justice
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That all goes on.
backintexas2013
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He is probably still drunk from last night and complaining about dope heads.
Rattler12
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Bunk Moreland said:

Sir, it's way too early in the morning to be huffing glue.
I didn't think of that one .........fuzzy brain from snorting too much powdered kale last night
Rattler12
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backintexas2013 said:

He is probably still drunk from last night and complaining about dope heads.
So your ears were ringing?
riverrataggie
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This is stupid. My wife and I enjoy the gummies from early bird. It helps clear mind before bed to sleep.

I guess now we just need to jump right into weed. Or better harder stuff. If we are gonna break the law might as well go big.
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Rattler12 said:

Wyoming Aggie said:

sanangelo said:

cslifer said:

"It's probably the Devils Lettuce that drove them mad"…are you are the reverend from Footloose?
That is the kind of stuff that is on the signs the nut jobs hold up on campus.
Ah, we have found a "marijuana is healthy for all" ideologue. I am completely unconvinced that marijuana has any health benefits and a skeptic that marijuana is harmless. I am especially a skeptic that high THC content in vapes is healthy. I point to 25% of rural county jails full of nut jobs as exhibit 1 against the 'marijuana is healthy' crowd.

Alex Berenson wrote a book concerning my skepticism. "Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence". The Amazon description of the book:

Quote:

Almost no one is in prison for marijuana;
A tiny fraction of doctors write most authorizations for medical marijuana, mostly for people who have already used;
Marijuana use is linked to opiate and cocaine use. Since 2008, the US and Canada have seen soaring marijuana use and an opiate epidemic. Britain has falling marijuana use and no epidemic;
Most of all, THCthe chemical in marijuana responsible for the drug's highcan cause psychotic episodes. After decades of studies, scientists no longer seriously debate if marijuana causes psychosis.

Psychosis brings violence, and cannabis-linked violence is spreading. In the four states that first legalized, murders have risen 25 percent since legalization, even more than the recent national increase. In Uruguay, which allowed retail sales in July 2017, murders have soared this year.

Berenson's reporting ranges from the London institute that is home to the scientists who helped prove the cannabis-psychosis link to the Colorado prison where a man now serves a thirty-year sentence after eating a THC-laced candy bar and killing his wife. He sticks to the facts, and they are devastating.

Link to the book so you can read it if you're wanting an honest debate.



You can remain a skeptic all you want by reading literature to confirm your bias. Marijuana unequivocally DOES provide at least some medical benefit to people. This fact isn't up for debate. There isn't a single medical professional I have met that says otherwise including every psychiatrist I've ever worked with.

Tying marijuana to violence based on very loosely connected anecdotal data points doesn't prove anything. I will give you the fact that marijuana does attract people with histories of mental illness and people prone to commit violence. But there is next to no demonstrable proof that marijuana CAUSES violence.

But you are entitled to your opinion. And I hope you're equally as passionate about banning alcohol and tobacco as those are infinitely worse than THC and kill millions of people a year. Not to mention alcohol definitely has been shown to lead to violence yet is legal in every US state.
You can remain a supporter all you want by reading literature to confirm your bias.......


The guy literally presented the work of a fiction crime novelist to defend his position.
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Calling everyone that partakes in THC a pothead is like calling everyone that drinks alcohol a drunk. There are some really small minded and ignorant people posting here.
JW
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GOP equivalent of supporting trans athletes. They will lose votes over this.
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BenFiasco14 said:

Was at a dinner earlier and a friends dad (60s brought this up). Proudly told us he's never ever had a whiff of marijuana or ever tried the stuff.

Homie had 4 miller lites with dinner, threw in a pinch of Copenhagen after, then drove up to Oklahoma to spend the weekend at Choctaw.

But thank goodness he's never polluted his temple with weed. Lol. Wonder if my friends dad posts on here? He's an Aggie.

The horror.
 
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