Jugstore Cowboy said:

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This is the order to ignore.

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Why this order?

aggiehawg said:

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Due process? Due process rights to a security clearance? That's a first for me.

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Lawyers, err judges, once again with specious opinions/rulings.

Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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Because what Trump did was not a violation of law. Know that is a difficult concept to grasp but it was not in any manner a felony, even under NY law.

Judge screwed up that case from the get go.

What does that have to do with this?

They used a dossier they knew was fake. That's a bad look.

What rule of law ignore specific to the EO in this thread. Please be specific!


Conservative Posters routinely criticize Trump on F16. You are projecting.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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You make it sound like the MAGA Trumpers are just knee jerk responding based purely upon personality and ideology. I submit that is totally in error..

Enough is known about the "34 convictions" to say that they are a miscarriage of justice, starting with a prosecutor that ran on an indict Trump for anything platform, a change in the statute of limitations made with one purpose, a judge with significant conflicts who made unprecedented rulings in favor of the prosecution, a hand shopped forum calculated to get the "convictions", Federal cooperation in furtherance of the president's not so subtle agenda, scheduling intended to conflict with the campaign with gag orders and orders to personally appear, etc., etc., etc.

This is not just from the Red team either- Turley and Dershowitz cannot be described as Republican or conservative, but do care about the rule of law.

I would say adherence to the rule of law is precisely why I am "cool with just ignoring" those 34 convictions.in court proceedings that banana republics would be ashamed to have occur in their justice system. Even though I am less than impressed with some of the judges on the SCOTUS, if a single one of the "convictions" survive through their review, I will be glad to revisit my opinion. Until then, yes I am cool with calling those proceedings what they were- a political farce.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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username is appropriate

TJaggie14 said:

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Slicer97 said:

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Let the judge enforce his ruling with his army.

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Still one of the funniest things ever!

LOL. Those weren't real convictions.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law?

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That's precisely what this unethical ***** is doing. She has no legal authority to do it. That's what happened when political prisoners were jailed without bail for J6. But you know that.

There needs to be a flag option for "Gaslighting."

Y'all understand that Perkins Coie only sought a TRO on certain portions of the Executive Order and specifically did not seek a TRO on the security clearance aspect, right? This is a wise decision by Perkins Coie.

A lot on commentary here is focused on the security clearance aspect, which is not subject to the court's ruling today.

The rule of law? Really? You had to be giggling when you typed that.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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I remember you here complaining when Biden ignored judicial rulings...






Oh wait. You didn't care then because those ruling were in favor of views you like....

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Y'all have got to ask yourself this question when trying to decide whether a court ruling is good or bad: "Would I agree with this if the Democrats were in control?"

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You have to understand how courts actually work, you know this will not stand on the mertis right?

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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What law?

Ag with kids said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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I remember you here complaining when Biden ignored judicial rulings...






Oh wait. You didn't care then because those ruling were in favor of views you like....

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Quote me or it didn't happen. I didn't vote for Biden.

Slicer97 said:

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Let the judge enforce his ruling with his army.

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Texags loves us some dictatorship. Winning

samurai_science said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Y'all have got to ask yourself this question when trying to decide whether a court ruling is good or bad: "Would I agree with this if the Democrats were in control?"

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You have to understand how courts actually work, you know this will not stand on the mertis right?

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Which part won't stand?

That judge would be excellent in cuba or russia.

The judge - one of satans minions at work.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Y'all have got to ask yourself this question when trying to decide whether a court ruling is good or bad: "Would I agree with this if the Democrats were in control?"

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Have always done that; I don't hero-worship any politicians, regardless of party.

I also ask myself whether the Commander in Chief has the authority to revoke security clearances, and how often the courts have intervened to prevent the Executive Branch from exercising authority on national security matters.

You mentioned the rule of law. Good question. But it's "Rule of Law," not "Rule By Courts." We've drifted into some legitimate balance of power questions, and not just in this one case. It is natural and expected for the courts to weigh in on expansions of Executive authority, but less so for them to routinely weigh in on the everyday exercise of established authority.

Bulldog73 said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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You make it sound like the MAGA Trumpers are just knee jerk responding based purely upon personality and ideology. I submit that is totally in error..

Enough is known about the "34 convictions" to say that they are a miscarriage of justice, starting with a prosecutor that ran on an indict Trump for anything platform, a change in the statute of limitations made with one purpose, a judge with significant conflicts who made unprecedented rulings in favor of the prosecution, a hand shopped forum calculated to get the "convictions", Federal cooperation in furtherance of the president's not so subtle agenda, scheduling intended to conflict with the campaign with gag orders and orders to personally appear, etc., etc., etc.

This is not just from the Red team either- Turley and Dershowitz cannot be described as Republican or conservative, but do care about the rule of law.

I would say adherence to the rule of law is precisely why I am "cool with just ignoring" those 34 convictions.in court proceedings that banana republics would be ashamed to have occur in their justice system. Even though I am less than impressed with some of the judges on the SCOTUS, if a single one of the "convictions" survive through their review, I will be glad to revisit my opinion. Until then, yes I am cool with calling those proceedings what they were- a political farce.

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PCC_80 said:

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Maybe Perkins Coie can keep the firms clearance but that does not mean their employees can keep their clearances. This also does not mean that the P-C offices have to be approved to store classified data/info.

Pull those and lets see what happens next.

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That would be awesome and exactly what Trump would do.

Step 1: allows the Law firm to have security.

Step 2: ask law firm to submit names for security approval with White House

Step 3: deny anyone with a two-hop to any who sniffed at the Jan 6, Russiagate, impeachment trial and any other bull**** charge they tried to nail Trump with.

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I would ask them to present evidence of who did participate in Russiagate as a means to prove who didn't. Then cut them off at the knees if they lie about any of their key partners not being involved. Use their lying as a justification to deny the whole firm clearances. If they tell the truth about all of it, use it to discredit the firm due to their widespread involvement.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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I remember you here complaining when Biden ignored judicial rulings...






Oh wait. You didn't care then because those ruling were in favor of views you like....

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Quote me or it didn't happen. I didn't vote for Biden.

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I can't quote the posts that you didn't make when Biden did that...

I also didn't say you voted for Biden.

Just that you didn't CARE when Biden did that enough to post your opposition...

txwxman said:

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Slicer97 said:

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Let the judge enforce his ruling with his army.

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Texags loves us some dictatorship. Winning

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You were fantastic at calling out the last administration, too...





Said no one.

txwxman said:

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Slicer97 said:

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Let the judge enforce his ruling with his army.

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Texags loves us some dictatorship. Winning

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What ruling? She does not have the authority and she knows it.

Ag with kids said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Are we really the kind of society that has devolved to the point where we're cool with just ignoring the rule of law? So many people around here completely dismiss the Trump convictions because of "lawfare". However, had Biden been convicted of 34 felonies, you would have accepted it on its face and demanded he be punished to the full extent of the law. Why? Because you wave a red pom pom and he waves a blue one? Is it that far fetched to believe that Trump actually committed the crimes?

I actually believe that when Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NYC and never lose a vote, he was right.

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I remember you here complaining when Biden ignored judicial rulings...






Oh wait. You didn't care then because those ruling were in favor of views you like....

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This is like drinking a watered down coke.

Yes. When Biden ignored court ruling and gave the middle finger salute…..yes it was a problem because he knowingly didn't care

In the cases of Trump….it was a corrupt process. No one whose is honest and says the process that led to any prosecution was not corrupt.

The 34 conviction is just a number the left conjured up. It Trump was Clinton…..the story would be …..it was only a cigar.

Jesters will jester.

This daily random federal judge bull**** has got to end. I don't understand how one unelected federal judge can stop what a duly elected president is doing.

Replying to myself just to note for posterity what a farce of an 'impartial judge' this gal really is.

For years covering both Jan 6 cases and the criminal indictments against President Trump, I pleaded for the impeachment of Beryl Howell.

She arguably is the most reckless, partisan, vindictive, and lawless judge on the federal bench.

Here is Howell in Dec 2023 receiving an… pic.twitter.com/7CsMzQxWka

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) March 13, 2025

Yeah yeah, Julie Kelly, but the video and attitude/bias on display are quite real.

It is clear that the left is using the judiciary and the senate cloture rule to block Trump's policies, which the majority voted for. The senate should end the cloture rule, which I think they can do with a simple majority vote. Can the DOJ investigate activist judges? This is truly a war for this country.

Globalist billionaires against "We the People" (the first three words of the US Constitution). BTW. The United States Constitution can be found at the back of Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language. Every American citizen should read it.